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    Richard Deeming
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    Look at this thread in The Lounge[^]. The first reply was from a now-deleted troll account. Jeremy replied to the troll, and I replied to Jeremy with "DNFTT". The troll's reply has now disappeared, leaving the thread looking like Jeremy was talking to himself. Another user saw my reply, thought it was an oblique reference to their comments in a previous thread on the same topic, and took offence at the thought that I was calling him a troll. :doh: If the "message removed" message was still there, it might have avoided this confusion. Obviously we don't want pages of "message removed" messages lying around. But if there are replies that haven't been removed yet, I think some form of "message removed" indicator should still be shown.


    "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

    "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined" - Homer

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    • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

      Look at this thread in The Lounge[^]. The first reply was from a now-deleted troll account. Jeremy replied to the troll, and I replied to Jeremy with "DNFTT". The troll's reply has now disappeared, leaving the thread looking like Jeremy was talking to himself. Another user saw my reply, thought it was an oblique reference to their comments in a previous thread on the same topic, and took offence at the thought that I was calling him a troll. :doh: If the "message removed" message was still there, it might have avoided this confusion. Obviously we don't want pages of "message removed" messages lying around. But if there are replies that haven't been removed yet, I think some form of "message removed" indicator should still be shown.


      "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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      The message disappearing is probably due to the user deciding to delete their post, I think... Perhaps what is required is to not allow a delete when a post has replies?

      Happiness will never come to those who fail to appreciate what they already have. -Anon And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music. -Frederick Nietzsche

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        The message disappearing is probably due to the user deciding to delete their post, I think... Perhaps what is required is to not allow a delete when a post has replies?

        Happiness will never come to those who fail to appreciate what they already have. -Anon And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music. -Frederick Nietzsche

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        Nelek
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        ChandraRam wrote:

        The message disappearing is probably due to the user deciding to delete their post, I think... Perhaps what is required is to not allow a delete when a post has replies?

        No, it is not.

        M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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          ChandraRam wrote:

          The message disappearing is probably due to the user deciding to delete their post, I think... Perhaps what is required is to not allow a delete when a post has replies?

          No, it is not.

          M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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          GKP1992
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          Maybe delete the message content and keep the message head, with a default "This post was deleted" text or something?

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          • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

            Look at this thread in The Lounge[^]. The first reply was from a now-deleted troll account. Jeremy replied to the troll, and I replied to Jeremy with "DNFTT". The troll's reply has now disappeared, leaving the thread looking like Jeremy was talking to himself. Another user saw my reply, thought it was an oblique reference to their comments in a previous thread on the same topic, and took offence at the thought that I was calling him a troll. :doh: If the "message removed" message was still there, it might have avoided this confusion. Obviously we don't want pages of "message removed" messages lying around. But if there are replies that haven't been removed yet, I think some form of "message removed" indicator should still be shown.


            "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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            Andre Oosthuizen
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            I agree, show some info of a deleted message to clear any confusion. The way I understand it is that when a profile is deleted, all messages linked to that profile is as well, maybe where the mishap came in?

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              Maybe delete the message content and keep the message head, with a default "This post was deleted" text or something?

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              Nelek
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              That was before like this, and we ended with pages of forums full of "message removed" every time our lovely spam-buggers sent a new wave. After that this new methode was introduced. For me... hanging messages could go to oblivion too, the biggest part of time is not "relevant enough to keep".

              M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                That was before like this, and we ended with pages of forums full of "message removed" every time our lovely spam-buggers sent a new wave. After that this new methode was introduced. For me... hanging messages could go to oblivion too, the biggest part of time is not "relevant enough to keep".

                M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                Richard Deeming
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                Alternatively, keep an "x message(s) removed" placeholder message in the tree unless all replies have also been removed or deleted. But of course, it's easy to suggest such things - we don't know how much blood, sweat, and swearing the implementation would cause for Chris. :)


                "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

                "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined" - Homer

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