This was tragi-funny. Does he write his own speeches or are they written by a staff member? Either way, does no one check what he is going to say given his track record of oratorial accidents?

Chris Losinger wrote: i have the fact that the US Army, after detaining these guys for 2 years, has released them. since the Army would clearly be more inclined to detain people they thought were even a little dangerous than they would to release them, i have to believe the Army doesn't think they're any danger. Political expediency. Chris Losinger wrote: hyperbole and empty sloganeering does nothing to fight the actual enemy, it only clouds the issues. Not at all - we are under direct threat from islamic extremists whose avowed cause is to destroy western culture. This is sad since the vast majority of muslims are peaceful, law abiding citizens who contribute much to our cultures. Until that threat dissipates we are under direct threat. Or didn't 911 happen? Chris Losinger wrote: take action against who or what? on what basis? It is tiring to repeat oneself since you are now arguing for the sake of it (much like I am). As Mr Spock said, 'The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.' That is as true to day as the day he will say it. Sorry, have to get back now, Gordon is calling from next door; something about a rate rise. Those devils at the Bank of England...

Jeff Bogan wrote: As an aside let me introduce you to a little concept called "Ad Hominem". It means when a debater falls back on attacking the person rather than the issue. It also means you couldn't come up with a valid response to my argument. Couldn't the same be said of those that patronise others... And doesn't your robust attack just deflect from the weakness of your own position?

Chris Losinger wrote: so, these people in the document i linked are connected to al-Q and the 9/11 gang? and you know this for a fact. what is your source for this startling information ? Same as your sources: paper, tv, radio. What other sources do you have? What do you need to see before you'll sit up and take action to protect you and yours? Chris Losinger wrote: take action against who or what? against just any random brown-skinned person ? blow up anything with an arabic sign on it ? get a grip. What on earth are you talking about? There are specific threats to western culture and freedom. I don't care what colour they are or what culture thay embrace as long as they threaten my culture they should be dealt with. Would you rather wait until it is too late to take action? Chris Losinger wrote: must be pretty easy to make big statements like that, from an anonymous account. Doh, of course it is. So I signed on. Have a nice day.