hi there i want add an activex control into my project. its a little bit complicated to explain. on the start of my program i start all of my windows and minimized them to 0,0,1,1 most of them are CDialog some CFrame... i dont use mfc ... only a very little bit. now i want to insert a activex same way. start "minimized" without data. this works. but if i want to insert data. then i hang up. how can i insert an activex "without mfc" ... or only little little bit of mfc ... thx :eek: