I dunno, but maybe it would go better for you if you asked a question in your header. Most of us are also over 12, and so calling yourself h4ek4z does not help, it's bloody annoying to look at and gives an image of you as a 10 year old script kid. Finding out what a users password is also does not sound like a sociable thing to be wanting to do. Christian I have drunk the cool-aid and found it wan and bitter. - Chris Maunder