Seems similar to .NET stuff, Intel is releasing so-called "The Open Runtime Platform" to the open source community :-) Read more here http://www.newsalert.com/bin/story?StoryId=CoCBKWbKbyta0nJm Regards, Paul.

Thank you. I have downloaded the version 3.2. The installation keeps popup up message box, one with the caption !"pUnkControl incorrect refcnt" None of the options from the mouse allow you to use the normal IntelliMouse. You only have "IntelliMouse Explorer", "IntelliMouse Optical", "IntelliMouse Web", "TrackBall Explorer", "TrackBall Optical". So the hardware still indicate Logitech mouse

> MS might learn something... Nice one, but will they ever learn if they have the halleluya singers around ready to praise anything because it comes from Microsoft?

> People are always going to experience different things > with different OS's, and as long as people use the OS > that is best suited to them there should be no problems. Thanks Chris, please remind the one who posted the article about this too.

> You can go to the hardware support site at microsoft and > download new drivers (http://www.microsoft.com/hardware). Thank you. > Yes, FAT is slower for many things with Windows 2000. Try > running your Linux system on FAT (Yes, you can do it) and > see if you don't notice a difference. Made me laugh. For the Linux guys to support FAT is enough achievement. > Why is it you Linux advocates always come up with the > silliest reasons to reject something? "My mouse doesn't > work" and "It's too slow" (nevermind the fact that Gnome > and KDE are vastly slower interfaces). Please get it right. I am not a Linux advocate. As to what you mean be silly reason is up to you. Neither Linux guys designed the MS mice that I use but they work correctly and I not have to go about searching for drivers. If stating this fact is silly to you... I was, however, hoping that with your *non-silly* position you will advice the one who posted the article to be fair.

Thanks for telling the truth, Stuart. I do not use Linux extensively, or program it. However, I simply cannot help admiring the great work of the KDE/GNOME guys. If by their hobby times they can achieve this much, give them 1/4 of the Win2000 budget and the world will appreciate the value of computer! Regards, Paul.

Please speak the truth. I have installed Win2000 since a week ago but still could not get any of my two MS mice drivers to work. The IntelliMouse with the optical IntelliEye technology! comes with MS IntelliPoint 3.0 on CD-ROM, but will simply not work with the Win2000. The other normal IntelliMouse, with drivers on a floppy also does not work. All these work with Red Hat 6.2 on the same machine. And maybe because I installed on FAT partition (simple the machine carries Win98/WinNT4.0 and now Win2000 too), it is the slowest OS I have ever met. With a Celeron 500 MHz CPU and 128 MB RAM, I click on a menu of an application and have to wait patiently! for it to come up. Why did I even install that non-sense? just to try the content of the .NET SDK. Give it right, I did not need designed for Linux2000 to get my Linux working as advertized. Please for God sake, tell people the truth. Linux is come to stay. Please can you specifically give the reason why you describe the GNOME and KDE as crap? For me the joy of having the two technically different interfaces running side by side is not easy to express in words. With just a dialog, I move from GNOME to KDE, Oh! hold it did I say KDE GNOME applications running under KDE? It is not difficult to see that the Linux guys do not have the gazillion of dollars, but it is easy to see the level of talent they display with great pride. Does this make you envy them? cover the sun :-)

Hello there, I like your analysis. > It effectively signals the end of MFC and ATL as evolving > libraries. This is what they hope to see, but it will never happen. Of course you will see acts like Chris removing Java and ATL from the banner and substituting .NET and C#. > The Web Service aspect is more marketing than anything > else. Nice to see someone too getting it right. It is all MS marketing, as usual using programmers as halelluya singers. Peace!

No, I am not a prophet. Just listen very well, get over the so-called excitements. As days go by, the hidden MS agenda is revealing itself. I just watched the show at http://msdn.microsoft.com/theshow/ where presenter was trying hard to explain why the .NET is the principle being used by MS Passport currently. Unfortunately, MS is linking the C# to the .NET. The so-called .NET is simply building software which will be hosted on MS servers, and one will have to pay for these so-called web services. Is your company ready for this? .NET RIP :

Thank you. I got it :-) I really do not think I will have the honor to compile MFC sources! Best regards, Paul.

Hello All, Can anyone tell my the steps or who to contact to obtain the Microsoft assembler? It is now a discontinued product, and according to sources a free copy could be obtained by calling MS. Regards, Paul.

COOL was the name of the MS clone of Java language about the time the court case with Sun started. However, MS officials denied the rumors of a new language being developed. The article at theregister is trying to establish that fact which was denied by looking at the documentations and sources. It, therefore, has nothing to do with the word "cool". So the title of your post should rather be, Officially C# is COOL. Regards, Paul.