That's what I do too, doing each control 'by hand'. I reckon it can give a much better appearance, as various things need different changes. In fact, in some dialogs I even alter the layout as the size changes. It can be a bit of a pain to do, so it is worth doing methodically, and commenting clearly. It is easy to get into a muddle doing this kind of thing. Oh, I also take screen images and load these into graphics software so that I can enlarge them enough to be able to count the pisels. Shraddhan
