Jmc_uk wrote: err I thought ASP was ASP.NET *cry Nope. Unless you're writing your website using C# or VB.NET, if you're just writing .asp pages and doing business logic in C++ using COM, or similar, then you're using ASP, not ASP.NET. The benefit of ASP.NET is mostly that you're able to use OO and generate websites in a way that the code is sane and easy to read. You'll also be able to easily make your pages a lot richer. Christian I have several lifelong friends that are New Yorkers but I have always gravitated toward the weirdo's. - Richard Stringer