jnerv wrote: if i give it a file location that doesn't exist, it outputs the message and doesn't create a file, but most of the time it creates the file and doesn't output the message. why is this? Which Api/Class are you using to read/write File.. as these api contain flags... which can return ERRROR is no file Exist by that name on the specified path. "Opinions are neither right nor wrong. I cannot change your opinion. I can, however, change what influences your opinion." - David Crow cheers, Alok Gupta VC Forum Q&A :- I/ IV