thanks for the reply....i actually was going about it wrong what i'm doing now (to my disguntlement) is keeping an arraylist of my objects in the session collection, and databinding to it...it's working fine i assumed that the ListBox.Items collection would hold objects (as long as they had a tostring() method), but i was wrong. you can, however databind to any object collection/list, as long as the tostring() method is provided, or a datavaluemember and datatextmember are specified michael griffith -------------------- mgriffith@lauren.com mdg12@po.cwru.edu