To do this you will have to replacethe standard scrollbars used by the scrollview, Add 2 CScrollBar controls to your inherited view, create them and override the GetScrollBarCtrl() virtual base class function, and return the correct pointer for SB_HORZ and SB_VERT. I think that is the first step in doing what you want! Roger Allen Sonork 100.10016 He dodges, he weaves, and he never gets enough sleep. He is kind to small animals. - Chris maunder. You can tell from his picture he doesn't sleep, and what kind of things does he weave?