And also is there a way to get a window rect that only gives you the coords of the actual view, i.e. ignores the title bar, status bar etc?

ShowWindow is THE API to use to show and hide windows, if your window does not exist yet, the function will assert. Try making sure that the window you are calling this function on is valid before you call this function. an exmaple of this would be Page::OnInitDialog(); { BOOL ret = CPropertyPage::OnInitDialog(); CWnd *pWnd = GetDlgItem(IDC_MY_WINDOW); if (!pWnd || !::IsWindow(pWnd->GetSafeHwnd()) { ASSERT(FALSE); } else pWnd->ShowWindow(SW_HIDE); // or whatever you want to do with it. } Did you use classwizard to generate control variables for your window objects? /yawar

hain i didn't think soo. i know csting is most persistent calss in vc++. pls give me your exact problem i will see to it and post reply thanks I Think It will Work Alok Gupta visit me at http://www.thisisalok.tk

Try using/extending MFC Grid Control 2.25[^] by Chris. * Don't wish it was easier, wish you were better! *

Seems like a file is missing from the project Papa while (TRUE) Papa.WillLove ( Bebe ) ;