Shog9 wrote: you can prove anything. Kinda like how if pigs flew Yes, but I wasn't thinking of a hypothetical situation, the situation described, or a similar one, would be proof enough for me, but nothing else can make me believe. A lot of people follows Sai Baba[^], even one of the most successfull businessmen in denmark and a lot of artists. What can make reasonable human beings believe in such a person you could ask?, well, apparently just some plain and simple magic tricks that even the cheapest magicians are able to copy, flavoured with a simple message of love and understanding. This man is doing everything that Jesus were doing, and he even got his own disciples and a whole lot of followers. What is missing is an evil opponent to make him a martyr, and then he's got potential for being a whole new religion competing with Christianity. Allthough that is not very likely, for real success you have to be the first, number two is the first loser... Shog9 wrote: Thinking out loud, Jan? A bad habit :-O "After all it's just text at the end of the day. - Colin Davies "For example, when a VB programmer comes to my house, they may say 'does your pool need cleaning, sir ?' " - Christian Graus