If I am right, you doing a mod of my article. If you can it would be best if you could send a copy of the offending code to me to have a look at. If you do, try and keep it as minimal as possible, so that it just illustraits the problem. The only other issue is that I work with VC 6 only, so if its dieing in VC7 only, I may not be able to spot/replicate the problem. Roger Allen Sonork 100.10016 Were you different as a kid? Did you ever say "Ooohhh, shiny red" even once? - Paul Watson 11-February-2003