zindines wrote: How do I know for sure that MSVC 6.0 is updated with SP5 ? If you have all of visual studio installed, VB loads with an 'SP5' on the splash screen. If you can keep you head when all about you Are losing theirs and blaming it on you; If you can dream - and not make dreams your master; If you can think - and not make thoughts you aim; Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it. Rudyard Kipling