iPod lost my songs
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Help! I'm not used to iTunes,latest as of 1/4/06, or any versions. Problem: I am working with two iPods, say iPod-Matt and iPod-Cody. iPod-Cody was visiting from out of state and wanted to get the songs from iPod-Matt, from Matt's PC. Matt created an iTunes "folder-instance" on the Guest account on Matt's PC. When Matt connected iPod-Cody onto Matt's PC, it asked a question (maybe something like this is a NEW/UNRECOGNIZED iPod). Matt pressed "OK" and it then erased all of the songs off iPod-Cody. The songs from iPod-Cody can NOT be found on either the iPod or the PC. iPod-Cody was "soft-reset"-ed and still, there are no songs to be found. QUESTION: Is there a way to recover the songs that seem to be erased from iPod-Cody? Thanks, Johnny
No. You'll have to wait until Cody takes his iPod back home and syncs with his iTunes again. The thing that Matt pressed was asking if he wanted to use iTunes to control this iPod. Bad idea. He told iTunes it was okay to wipe the iPod and sync it up with this instance of iTunes. Just think of it as an anti-piracy device. We wouldn't want everybody just ripping music off of other people's libraries now, would we? ;)
Picture a huge catholic cathedral. In it there's many people, including a gregorian monk choir. You know, those who sing beautifully. Then they start singing, in latin, as they always do: "Ad hominem..." -Jörgen Sigvardsson
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Help! I'm not used to iTunes,latest as of 1/4/06, or any versions. Problem: I am working with two iPods, say iPod-Matt and iPod-Cody. iPod-Cody was visiting from out of state and wanted to get the songs from iPod-Matt, from Matt's PC. Matt created an iTunes "folder-instance" on the Guest account on Matt's PC. When Matt connected iPod-Cody onto Matt's PC, it asked a question (maybe something like this is a NEW/UNRECOGNIZED iPod). Matt pressed "OK" and it then erased all of the songs off iPod-Cody. The songs from iPod-Cody can NOT be found on either the iPod or the PC. iPod-Cody was "soft-reset"-ed and still, there are no songs to be found. QUESTION: Is there a way to recover the songs that seem to be erased from iPod-Cody? Thanks, Johnny
the only way to get the songs back onto iPod-Cody is to connect it to the computer that contains the library that iPod-Cody was originally docked, Cody's PC. What you could have done, is copied the songs from iPod-Cody to Matt's PC and then added those songs to the Matt's library. But then Cody's library on Cody's PC would be out of sync with iPod-Cody. You would then have to move the songs on iPod-Cody to Cody's computer, then add to library, blah blah, very tedious. Do a google search on ipods and synching with two computers. My parents got me a 5G iPod, which I never would have bought myself, and I have been reading up on this crap. Oh yeah, set the iPods to manually synch. Hope that helps
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the only way to get the songs back onto iPod-Cody is to connect it to the computer that contains the library that iPod-Cody was originally docked, Cody's PC. What you could have done, is copied the songs from iPod-Cody to Matt's PC and then added those songs to the Matt's library. But then Cody's library on Cody's PC would be out of sync with iPod-Cody. You would then have to move the songs on iPod-Cody to Cody's computer, then add to library, blah blah, very tedious. Do a google search on ipods and synching with two computers. My parents got me a 5G iPod, which I never would have bought myself, and I have been reading up on this crap. Oh yeah, set the iPods to manually synch. Hope that helps
Thanks (everyone too) for the reply. In trying to diagnose/correct this for my nephews, I figured it might be related to a "Piracy Protection" scheme. It sucks that we are told what we can and can't put on our own personal devices (e.g. I record my own band's music and try to share on two iPods in similar manner). The other side of the coin is the merge scheme of this device. Isn't the merge scheme on some handhelds (PocketPCs, Microsoft ActiveSync or PalmDesktop) a little better than that of iPod/iTunes? Thanks again for all the help. Cody will now just have to wait until he can: 1) ask his sister, on who's laptop HIS iTunes was loaded/created, to mail a CD with his library 2) travel the hundreds of miles to another state just to resync and recover his previous library 3) rebuild his library on a more local/accessible computer Johnny
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This story, and stories like it, are the reason I will never buy an iPod. Based on what I've read, you buy an iPod, and install iTunes on your PC. From then on, that iPod must only be used with that PC, or it is wiped. If you use a different iPod with the PC, the PC's library of music is wiped. Music you purchase online can only be loaded onto that specific PC/iPod combination, or your name is sent to RIAA. Steve Jobs can bite me.
Software Zen:
delete this;Gary R. Wheeler wrote:
This story, and stories like it, are the reason I will never buy an iPod. Based on what I've read, you buy an iPod, and install iTunes on your PC. From then on, that iPod must only be used with that PC, or it is wiped. If you use a different iPod with the PC, the PC's library of music is wiped. Music you purchase online can only be loaded onto that specific PC/iPod combination, or your name is sent to RIAA.
I buy an iPod for multi-use, at the time nothing else had voice recording and photo wallet storage. I could spend $50 for a cheap, but digital voice recorder, $200 for a digital photo wallet, and still pay $300 or more for the competition MP3 player which was at the time still heavier, battery lasted shorter, etc. So I bought an iPod and can use them all together in one unit. If the two libraries were merged on the iPod, then your 20 CDs would be merged with your friends, you simply swing by a dozen of your friends computers and get a nice collection on your iPod. You are fairly warned of the re-load of the iPod. It's akin to blaming Microsoft because you heard that reformatting a drive speeds it up, and did so without backing up. Admitedly, I am lucky that I do not download music of any kind. I have 100 original CDs sitting next to me if there ever is a problem, and no one else to sync my iPod with. So I get multi-use, without the sharing issues. _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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Thanks (everyone too) for the reply. In trying to diagnose/correct this for my nephews, I figured it might be related to a "Piracy Protection" scheme. It sucks that we are told what we can and can't put on our own personal devices (e.g. I record my own band's music and try to share on two iPods in similar manner). The other side of the coin is the merge scheme of this device. Isn't the merge scheme on some handhelds (PocketPCs, Microsoft ActiveSync or PalmDesktop) a little better than that of iPod/iTunes? Thanks again for all the help. Cody will now just have to wait until he can: 1) ask his sister, on who's laptop HIS iTunes was loaded/created, to mail a CD with his library 2) travel the hundreds of miles to another state just to resync and recover his previous library 3) rebuild his library on a more local/accessible computer Johnny
john john mackey wrote:
It sucks that we are told what we can and can't put on our own personal devices (e.g. I record my own band's music and try to share on two iPods in similar manner).
Actually, you aren't forced to do anything with your music. It takes less than a 25 cents to make an audio CD for your friends. And if they donate the CDs, it takes only time, less than is lost with such issues. Legally the CD collection should be with the computer. If the iPod was synced on his sister's computer who also listens to the same music and/or syncs her own iPod (and/or her boyfriend's), it becomes pretty obvious why this protection exists. By the way, if the collection is legal, share the drive across remote desktop and sync across the miles. _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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Gary R. Wheeler wrote:
This story, and stories like it, are the reason I will never buy an iPod. Based on what I've read, you buy an iPod, and install iTunes on your PC. From then on, that iPod must only be used with that PC, or it is wiped. If you use a different iPod with the PC, the PC's library of music is wiped. Music you purchase online can only be loaded onto that specific PC/iPod combination, or your name is sent to RIAA.
I buy an iPod for multi-use, at the time nothing else had voice recording and photo wallet storage. I could spend $50 for a cheap, but digital voice recorder, $200 for a digital photo wallet, and still pay $300 or more for the competition MP3 player which was at the time still heavier, battery lasted shorter, etc. So I bought an iPod and can use them all together in one unit. If the two libraries were merged on the iPod, then your 20 CDs would be merged with your friends, you simply swing by a dozen of your friends computers and get a nice collection on your iPod. You are fairly warned of the re-load of the iPod. It's akin to blaming Microsoft because you heard that reformatting a drive speeds it up, and did so without backing up. Admitedly, I am lucky that I do not download music of any kind. I have 100 original CDs sitting next to me if there ever is a problem, and no one else to sync my iPod with. So I get multi-use, without the sharing issues. _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
I thought I would share this comment I submitted to one of CP Member who replied: My two observations, in hindsight to this are: 1) a better merge scheme should be used by iTunes (is it different than other handheld devices like PocketPC or Palms?) 2) my nephew, and others including me, should read and be able to understand the "Accept/Continue/Proceed/Do You Really Want To Do This" BEFORE we just press "OK" Sometimes the understand what we are accepting is difficult on popup dialogs, but such is life. Best Regards, Johnny
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I thought I would share this comment I submitted to one of CP Member who replied: My two observations, in hindsight to this are: 1) a better merge scheme should be used by iTunes (is it different than other handheld devices like PocketPC or Palms?) 2) my nephew, and others including me, should read and be able to understand the "Accept/Continue/Proceed/Do You Really Want To Do This" BEFORE we just press "OK" Sometimes the understand what we are accepting is difficult on popup dialogs, but such is life. Best Regards, Johnny
john john mackey wrote:
- my nephew, and others including me, should read and be able to understand the "Accept/Continue/Proceed/Do You Really Want To Do This" BEFORE we just press "OK"
Well.... I do understand. However, I fully understood when I reloaded my computer and reinstalled everything late last year. I went to resync the iPod and it outright told me that the iPod would be erased and updated from the computer. I fully understood the implications of erasing the iPod. In fact everytime Apple releases a firmware update the same thing happens, the iPod is erased and reloaded from the parent computer. The iPod is not a permanent container for music, it is an extension of the computer that holds the music.
john john mackey wrote:
- a better merge scheme should be used by iTunes (is it different than other handheld devices like PocketPC or Palms?)
I don't understand why there should be a merge? If I have a laptop computer and I have my legal copies (license allows one desktop, one notebook assuming same user), and I decide to load my friends copy of software because of the notebook license extension, and then his friends. Merge is dangerous legal territory. It is understandable when we talk software, but music is cheap so not considered "as bad". I don't particularly like how heavy handed some of the companies are getting trying to deal with it, but it is the sheer volume of "soft crime" merging music collections legal on the respective individuals to be shared between multiple users that lays the groundwork for the heavy handedness. Palms do not share copyrighted data usually, however syncing software to your handheld and sharing it is illegal also. eBooks and music are done similarly to iPods, you download and you better have your password to download again because if you try to resync and reload the ebook software from another computer... bye-bye books. _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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Gary R. Wheeler wrote:
If you use a different iPod with the PC, the PC's library of music is wiped.
That's false. An iPod will never erase the iTunes library of a PC or Mac. What happened in the OP's case and what happens in general is that, when you connect an iPod to iTunes, iTunes asks you if you want to sync the iPod with this instance of iTunes. If you've been using that iPod with a different music library, then the iPod gets wiped to sync with the new library. Makes perfect sense to me. Instead of trying to merge two song databases into one and keeping two separate iTunes synced onto one iPod, Apple just goes the simple route and says that you can only sync the iPod with one iTunes at a time.
Picture a huge catholic cathedral. In it there's many people, including a gregorian monk choir. You know, those who sing beautifully. Then they start singing, in latin, as they always do: "Ad hominem..." -Jörgen Sigvardsson
And in 2020, the bidirectional sync was invented.
We say "get a life" to each other, disappointed or jokingly. What we forget, though, is that this is possibly the most destructive advice you can give to a geek.
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Help! I'm not used to iTunes,latest as of 1/4/06, or any versions. Problem: I am working with two iPods, say iPod-Matt and iPod-Cody. iPod-Cody was visiting from out of state and wanted to get the songs from iPod-Matt, from Matt's PC. Matt created an iTunes "folder-instance" on the Guest account on Matt's PC. When Matt connected iPod-Cody onto Matt's PC, it asked a question (maybe something like this is a NEW/UNRECOGNIZED iPod). Matt pressed "OK" and it then erased all of the songs off iPod-Cody. The songs from iPod-Cody can NOT be found on either the iPod or the PC. iPod-Cody was "soft-reset"-ed and still, there are no songs to be found. QUESTION: Is there a way to recover the songs that seem to be erased from iPod-Cody? Thanks, Johnny
Oh no there is no recycle bin in iPod but i dont know if some jurk have investigated the code to get back the songs Vikas Amin Embin Technology Bombay vikas.amin@embin.com
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Help! I'm not used to iTunes,latest as of 1/4/06, or any versions. Problem: I am working with two iPods, say iPod-Matt and iPod-Cody. iPod-Cody was visiting from out of state and wanted to get the songs from iPod-Matt, from Matt's PC. Matt created an iTunes "folder-instance" on the Guest account on Matt's PC. When Matt connected iPod-Cody onto Matt's PC, it asked a question (maybe something like this is a NEW/UNRECOGNIZED iPod). Matt pressed "OK" and it then erased all of the songs off iPod-Cody. The songs from iPod-Cody can NOT be found on either the iPod or the PC. iPod-Cody was "soft-reset"-ed and still, there are no songs to be found. QUESTION: Is there a way to recover the songs that seem to be erased from iPod-Cody? Thanks, Johnny
I know I can use my iPod Shuffle to transfer data files, without using iTunes. Can you use the regular iPod as a removable drive? BW
If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
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This story, and stories like it, are the reason I will never buy an iPod. Based on what I've read, you buy an iPod, and install iTunes on your PC. From then on, that iPod must only be used with that PC, or it is wiped. If you use a different iPod with the PC, the PC's library of music is wiped. Music you purchase online can only be loaded onto that specific PC/iPod combination, or your name is sent to RIAA. Steve Jobs can bite me.
Software Zen:
delete this;Gary R. Wheeler wrote:
or your name is sent to RIAA.
Really??? Anyway, I'm fine with my Creative ZEN Micro 6GB. ___________________________________ Tozzi is right: Gaia is getting rid of us. My Blog [ITA]
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I know I can use my iPod Shuffle to transfer data files, without using iTunes. Can you use the regular iPod as a removable drive? BW
If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
-- Steven Wright -
This story, and stories like it, are the reason I will never buy an iPod. Based on what I've read, you buy an iPod, and install iTunes on your PC. From then on, that iPod must only be used with that PC, or it is wiped. If you use a different iPod with the PC, the PC's library of music is wiped. Music you purchase online can only be loaded onto that specific PC/iPod combination, or your name is sent to RIAA. Steve Jobs can bite me.
Software Zen:
delete this;Excuse me while I laugh at you: hahahahahahahaha. Yeah, if you initialize (aka FORMAT) a device, it's gonna get wiped. You can use the iPod with any computer - just don't initialize it when iTunes prompts you! Sheesh. The PC's library being wiped: not sure where you came up with that one. I heard if you think about installing Vista that your head explodes. (Hey, I've matched logic for logic..) Music you purchased from iTunes can be used on any iPod / iTunes combo, as long as you authorize it. Your name is not sent to the RIAA, Mr. Conspiracy Theorist. (I'm almost tempted to believe your post is a horrible joke or trolling.)
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And in 2020, the bidirectional sync was invented.
We say "get a life" to each other, disappointed or jokingly. What we forget, though, is that this is possibly the most destructive advice you can give to a geek.
boost your code || Fold With Us! || sighist -
And in 2020, the bidirectional sync was invented.
We say "get a life" to each other, disappointed or jokingly. What we forget, though, is that this is possibly the most destructive advice you can give to a geek.
boost your code || Fold With Us! || sighistI remember how easy bidirectional sync was with Napster back in the '90s, but then the RIAA went and crushed that. There's no way a company like Apple could officially add bidirectional sync without getting crushed too. Maybe in 2020 the RIAA will finally be obselete and we'll have real bidirectional sync again...
I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours. ~Stephen Roberts
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Help! I'm not used to iTunes,latest as of 1/4/06, or any versions. Problem: I am working with two iPods, say iPod-Matt and iPod-Cody. iPod-Cody was visiting from out of state and wanted to get the songs from iPod-Matt, from Matt's PC. Matt created an iTunes "folder-instance" on the Guest account on Matt's PC. When Matt connected iPod-Cody onto Matt's PC, it asked a question (maybe something like this is a NEW/UNRECOGNIZED iPod). Matt pressed "OK" and it then erased all of the songs off iPod-Cody. The songs from iPod-Cody can NOT be found on either the iPod or the PC. iPod-Cody was "soft-reset"-ed and still, there are no songs to be found. QUESTION: Is there a way to recover the songs that seem to be erased from iPod-Cody? Thanks, Johnny
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Excuse me while I laugh at you: hahahahahahahaha. Yeah, if you initialize (aka FORMAT) a device, it's gonna get wiped. You can use the iPod with any computer - just don't initialize it when iTunes prompts you! Sheesh. The PC's library being wiped: not sure where you came up with that one. I heard if you think about installing Vista that your head explodes. (Hey, I've matched logic for logic..) Music you purchased from iTunes can be used on any iPod / iTunes combo, as long as you authorize it. Your name is not sent to the RIAA, Mr. Conspiracy Theorist. (I'm almost tempted to believe your post is a horrible joke or trolling.)
krism42 wrote:
I'm almost tempted to believe your post is a horrible joke or trolling
No, just simple recognition that Steve Jobs is the Antichrist.
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Gary R. Wheeler wrote:
If you use a different iPod with the PC, the PC's library of music is wiped.
That's false. An iPod will never erase the iTunes library of a PC or Mac. What happened in the OP's case and what happens in general is that, when you connect an iPod to iTunes, iTunes asks you if you want to sync the iPod with this instance of iTunes. If you've been using that iPod with a different music library, then the iPod gets wiped to sync with the new library. Makes perfect sense to me. Instead of trying to merge two song databases into one and keeping two separate iTunes synced onto one iPod, Apple just goes the simple route and says that you can only sync the iPod with one iTunes at a time.
Picture a huge catholic cathedral. In it there's many people, including a gregorian monk choir. You know, those who sing beautifully. Then they start singing, in latin, as they always do: "Ad hominem..." -Jörgen Sigvardsson
David Stone wrote:
Instead of trying to merge two song databases into one and keeping two separate iTunes synced onto one iPod, Apple just goes the simple route and says that you can only sync the iPod with one iTunes at a time.
This is, BTW, almost exactly how Janus devices work. The difference is that when you sync a device with a new PC, the device isn't wiped; its existing music files aren't touched. However any synching tracks on the device (that it got from the first PC) will obviously stop synching so their licenses will eventually run out. --Mike-- Visual C++ MVP :cool: LINKS~! Ericahist | NEW!! PimpFish | CP SearchBar v3.0 | C++ Forum FAQ I even hear the Windows "OMG I booted up fine" sound. -- Paul Watson diagnosing hardware problems.