Just a check here. Creationists do not believe that God is continueally creating things. God created the world with laws so they could be followed. Miracles are rare -- that's why they are called miracles. The normal way of things is that there is a natural explanation for things. That is exactly why Bible-believing people began the study of science. My reading of current evolutionary theory is that it remains largely consistent, with problems relating to the lack of fossil records for 'intermediaries' (there are some, but not as many as expected), and in the failure to find a 'trigger' that can create 'life' from 'organic matter'. These are important details, but are NOT considered either insurmountable or contradictory to the established theory. These are therefore the areas of continuing development. My belief is that research into these areas will yield answers eventually, and therefore validate evolution. That hasn't happened yet, and the theory may have to 'adjust' as the evidence arrives. I would reject any portrayal of evolution as being 'fatally flawed', or 'doomed' - it is, as expected, evolving!! Well, similar things could be said about the Creation viewpoint. I haven't found any evidence which has no possible logical explanation from the creationist model (without constantly resorting to miracles as you seem to think we do). You'd say (have said) the same thing about evolution, so this one isn't going to get us anywhere specific. _http://www.skepticfriends.org/hoax4.htm http://www.csun.edu/~vcgeo005/revised8.htm_ Hmmm... I wish I understood this better, but from what I can tell it sounds like a reasonable explanation. (A reasonably diligent search through Google didn't find any good or bad reviews of the information in those articles, so I'm on my own here.) But, if Gentry was right, I would have wondered if the only reason God did that was to confuse evolutionists. *shrugs* Anyway, there is plenty of other evidence to use. That was just one I'd run into recently. And at this point I feel that we can go no further - if the links I have provided are not enough to convince you that the biblical flood could only have happened with supernatural assistance, then I can do no more. Uh, I must not have explained it well enough. :-O Yes, it is very likely that miracles were involved in the Flood. In fact, moving all of the animals into the ark was one of the things that were almost definitely a miracle. HOWEVER, if the Flood did happen, the evidence is sti