renaming of cities, airports, etc...
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Kant wrote:
In the last decade or so when BJP (Hindu) party came into power, it forced all the major cities to change the names. Madras -> Chennai, Bombay -> Mumbai, Calcutta -> Kolkata....etc
Eh? The only remote way in which the BJP is connected to any of these is that they were a part of the coalition govt in MH at the time Bombay was renamed to Mumbai. It is the state government which takes these decisions, not the center. The BJP has never been in power in WB or TN, so I don't know what you're talking about. Cheers, Vikram.
"When I read in books about a "base class", I figured this was the class that was at the bottom of the inheritence tree. It's the "base", right? Like the base of a pyramid." - Marc Clifton.
Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:
The BJP has never been in power in WB or TN, so I don't know what you're talking about.
I didn't say that. But it's the BJP (with Shiv sena) which started this trend by changing the name 'Bombay' to 'Mumbai' then others followed the suit. Now Bangalore and Hyderabad are going to change their names soon. I believe one time Karunanidhi or Jayalalitha formed alliance with BJP and shared power for one term in Tamilnadu.
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In South Africa, there was a wave of renaming in the mid-1990s, but it's starting to happen again and I'm interested to find out what the international view is. The 2 latest renaming proposals are to change the capital's name from Pretoria to Tswane. The other is to change "Johannesburg International Airport" (was Jan Smuts in 1990's) to "Oliver Thambo International Airport". My issue is not the actual renaming, but rather the following: - it makes SA look unstable in political terms, I think - the several billion Rand that will be used to change these names should rather be used to curb the crime and corruption in our country. Does renaming happen in other parts of the world? What about renaming twice in 10 years? Cheers, Simon > blog:: brokenkeyboards > my opinion of VS05 :: here > CV :: PDF > skype me! :: SimonMStewart
I can’t say that any cities have been renamed in Minnesota; there have been a few smaller cities (in the outline areas) that have merged into one. Major sporting and conference facilities tend to be up for sale when it comes to naming them. Which does lead to some confusion, mostly the locals still call it by its old name. I still think of the Excel center (The hockey stadium for the Wild) as river center. Personally I think it makes it a little harder for outsiders to recognize the particular interest points in a Country if they rename their cities to often. And leads to less familiarity, take Nish’s home town, with the name change there is no way that I would ever remember the new name. Trivandrum, in part be cause I can pronounce it (even if I miss pronounce it) is memorable. If I ever traveled to India I already know one place to visit, that is until I get there and no one knows where I'm talking about. Then again perhaps I'm just daft. :-O
ZeePain! wrote:
This seems like one of those programs that started small, grew incrementally, building internal pressure, and finally barfed all over its source code sneakers. Or something.
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Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:
The BJP has never been in power in WB or TN, so I don't know what you're talking about.
I didn't say that. But it's the BJP (with Shiv sena) which started this trend by changing the name 'Bombay' to 'Mumbai' then others followed the suit. Now Bangalore and Hyderabad are going to change their names soon. I believe one time Karunanidhi or Jayalalitha formed alliance with BJP and shared power for one term in Tamilnadu.
Kant wrote:
I didn't say that.
You originally said: In the last decade or so when BJP (Hindu) party came into power, it forced all the major cities to change the names. Which, with all due respect, is false. :) I agree they were part of the Govt which renamed Bombay to Mumbai, but they had nothing to do with the two others, so your original statement is patently wrong.
Kant wrote:
But it's the BJP (with Shiv sena) which started this trend
No. It was the Commies who started this - almost *all* cities in Kerala were renamed a full 5 years before Bombay was renamed. Nish will be able to shed more light on that.
Kant wrote:
I believe one time Karunanidhi or Jayalalitha formed alliance with BJP and shared power for one term in Tamilnadu.
Again, this is not true. I've heard about Dharam Singh's intentions, but what are they going to rename Hyd to? :confused: Nope, I'm not a BJP guy; just pointing out that you got your facts wrong. :) Cheers, Vikram.
"When I read in books about a "base class", I figured this was the class that was at the bottom of the inheritence tree. It's the "base", right? Like the base of a pyramid." - Marc Clifton.
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Not that often, but to be fair, compared to here, SA *is* politically unstable, or at least has been. Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++
In reality, we are politically stable. It's the effect of Zimbabwe and the gross human rights issues that happen there that make us look bad. Cheers, Simon > blog:: brokenkeyboards > my opinion of VS05 :: here > CV :: PDF > skype me! :: SimonMStewart
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SimonS wrote:
Does renaming happen in other parts of the world?
*sung* Istanbul was Constantinople Now it's Istanbul not Constantinople :D
!!!!!!!!!! I'm singing that song now in my head - Thank you grrrrrrrrrrrrrr I still remember having to write your own code in FORTRAN rather than be a cut and paste merchant being pampered by colour coded Intellisense - ahh proper programming - those were the days :)
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In South Africa, there was a wave of renaming in the mid-1990s, but it's starting to happen again and I'm interested to find out what the international view is. The 2 latest renaming proposals are to change the capital's name from Pretoria to Tswane. The other is to change "Johannesburg International Airport" (was Jan Smuts in 1990's) to "Oliver Thambo International Airport". My issue is not the actual renaming, but rather the following: - it makes SA look unstable in political terms, I think - the several billion Rand that will be used to change these names should rather be used to curb the crime and corruption in our country. Does renaming happen in other parts of the world? What about renaming twice in 10 years? Cheers, Simon > blog:: brokenkeyboards > my opinion of VS05 :: here > CV :: PDF > skype me! :: SimonMStewart
Yeh you are true it brings out Political imbalance . but we cannot change the tendency to change . (universal law) Vikas Amin Embin Technology Bombay
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!!!!!!!!!! I'm singing that song now in my head - Thank you grrrrrrrrrrrrrr I still remember having to write your own code in FORTRAN rather than be a cut and paste merchant being pampered by colour coded Intellisense - ahh proper programming - those were the days :)
Its nooooobodies business but the Tuuurks!! cruel, aren't I? Iain.
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We don't get too much of that where I live in the United States. What we do is tack on additional, equivalent names. For example, the primary east/west route through my town (Xenia, Ohio) and the next major city (Dayton) is U.S. route 35. In various places, it is also known as East Main Street (in my town), the Korean Veterans Memorial Parkway (a stretch between here and Dayton), and so on. There is one major street in Dayton that has five names over the course of its length. Every little two-bit municipality along the way changes the name of their stretch.
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delete this;Gary R. Wheeler wrote:
We don't get too much of that where I live in the United States.
Remembering my history reading (Bill Bryson in this case), the USPO did a lot of enforced renaming early 20th century. All the burghs -> burgs, only one town name (eg. Jerusalem) per state etc. It wasn't a federal law as such, but you had to adhere to the Post Office rules if you wanted your mail delived, so... Iain.
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In South Africa, there was a wave of renaming in the mid-1990s, but it's starting to happen again and I'm interested to find out what the international view is. The 2 latest renaming proposals are to change the capital's name from Pretoria to Tswane. The other is to change "Johannesburg International Airport" (was Jan Smuts in 1990's) to "Oliver Thambo International Airport". My issue is not the actual renaming, but rather the following: - it makes SA look unstable in political terms, I think - the several billion Rand that will be used to change these names should rather be used to curb the crime and corruption in our country. Does renaming happen in other parts of the world? What about renaming twice in 10 years? Cheers, Simon > blog:: brokenkeyboards > my opinion of VS05 :: here > CV :: PDF > skype me! :: SimonMStewart
Oh jeez. I thought the point of renaming the airports to generic city names rather than new political figures was to prevent any future hard feelings. regards, Paul Watson Ireland Colib and ilikecameras. K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!
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Gary R. Wheeler wrote:
We don't get too much of that where I live in the United States.
Remembering my history reading (Bill Bryson in this case), the USPO did a lot of enforced renaming early 20th century. All the burghs -> burgs, only one town name (eg. Jerusalem) per state etc. It wasn't a federal law as such, but you had to adhere to the Post Office rules if you wanted your mail delived, so... Iain.
Iain Clarke wrote:
Remembering my history reading (Bill Bryson in this case), the USPO did a lot of enforced renaming early 20th century. All the burghs -> burgs, only one town name (eg. Jerusalem) per state etc. It wasn't a federal law as such, but you had to adhere to the Post Office rules if you wanted your mail delived, so...
What was Pittsburgh's secret then; just sheer size (was as big as #2 nationally at one point), or something else?
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Iain Clarke wrote:
Remembering my history reading (Bill Bryson in this case), the USPO did a lot of enforced renaming early 20th century. All the burghs -> burgs, only one town name (eg. Jerusalem) per state etc. It wasn't a federal law as such, but you had to adhere to the Post Office rules if you wanted your mail delived, so...
What was Pittsburgh's secret then; just sheer size (was as big as #2 nationally at one point), or something else?
dan neely wrote:
What was Pittsburgh's secret then
Probably sheer stubbornness. And (as you say) it was big enough to fight back. Mind you, I'm remembering something I read in a book a few years ago. Expert, I am not! Iain.
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Farhan Noor Qureshi wrote:
I am glad they did. Trivandrum is way easier than Thiruvananthapuram
:confused: The name used to be "Trivandrum" which has been changed to "Thiruvananthapuram" now. So, the current name is actually a more complicated one. Why are you glad they did that? Regards, Nish
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Oops I thought it was the other way around. :-> What I meant to say is Trivandrum was easier than Thiruvananthapuram :^) Farhan Noor Qureshi if (this == this) thow this;
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dan neely wrote:
What was Pittsburgh's secret then
Probably sheer stubbornness. And (as you say) it was big enough to fight back. Mind you, I'm remembering something I read in a book a few years ago. Expert, I am not! Iain.
Iain Clarke wrote:
dan neely wrote: What was Pittsburgh's secret then Probably sheer stubbornness. And (as you say) it was big enough to fight back.
Annother posibility that's just occured was Carnegie could've done it with a single phonecall. He'd have no trouble buying enough congress critters to get everyone involved looking for a new job if the postmaster general didn't play ball.
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Glad to see a fellow Ohioan on these boards. I am from Van Wert near Lima. Brett A. Whittington Application Developer
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Oops I thought it was the other way around. :-> What I meant to say is Trivandrum was easier than Thiruvananthapuram :^) Farhan Noor Qureshi if (this == this) thow this;
Ok, no probs then :-) Regards, Nish
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