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    Can anyone recommend an online backup service? I'm trying to find something that's affordable in the 5-30GB range (preferably less than $50USD/month). The problem I'm finding is the prices go through the roof after 2GB on the one's I've found on Google. There are several businesses I work with that I want to start using such a service. They have thousands of files that they are required by law to keep for 5 years. Any data loss is unacceptable and their current “backups” are mediocre at best. What I need is something that runs on 1 machine and does an initial backup at setup and then does incremental syncs every night after work hours (so the upload doesn't kill day to day internet use). Does anyone have a recommendation? [edit]I did find this[^]. The economy 25GB looks exactly like what I need. Would still like to know if anyone has anything better to recommend.[/edit]

    Found on Bash.org [erno] hm. I've lost a machine.. literally _lost_. it responds to ping, it works completely, I just can't figure out where in my apartment it is.

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      Can anyone recommend an online backup service? I'm trying to find something that's affordable in the 5-30GB range (preferably less than $50USD/month). The problem I'm finding is the prices go through the roof after 2GB on the one's I've found on Google. There are several businesses I work with that I want to start using such a service. They have thousands of files that they are required by law to keep for 5 years. Any data loss is unacceptable and their current “backups” are mediocre at best. What I need is something that runs on 1 machine and does an initial backup at setup and then does incremental syncs every night after work hours (so the upload doesn't kill day to day internet use). Does anyone have a recommendation? [edit]I did find this[^]. The economy 25GB looks exactly like what I need. Would still like to know if anyone has anything better to recommend.[/edit]

      Found on Bash.org [erno] hm. I've lost a machine.. literally _lost_. it responds to ping, it works completely, I just can't figure out where in my apartment it is.

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      TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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      i googled "online backup" and there is a plethora of sites...

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        Can anyone recommend an online backup service? I'm trying to find something that's affordable in the 5-30GB range (preferably less than $50USD/month). The problem I'm finding is the prices go through the roof after 2GB on the one's I've found on Google. There are several businesses I work with that I want to start using such a service. They have thousands of files that they are required by law to keep for 5 years. Any data loss is unacceptable and their current “backups” are mediocre at best. What I need is something that runs on 1 machine and does an initial backup at setup and then does incremental syncs every night after work hours (so the upload doesn't kill day to day internet use). Does anyone have a recommendation? [edit]I did find this[^]. The economy 25GB looks exactly like what I need. Would still like to know if anyone has anything better to recommend.[/edit]

        Found on Bash.org [erno] hm. I've lost a machine.. literally _lost_. it responds to ping, it works completely, I just can't figure out where in my apartment it is.

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        TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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        why not get a USB harddrive and backup to that? For the price of 3 or 4 months service at $50/month you can get a sizeable drive.

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          why not get a USB harddrive and backup to that? For the price of 3 or 4 months service at $50/month you can get a sizeable drive.

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          I don't mean to be rude, but the intended users are complete morons with computers. They know how to use their form app and that's it. E-mail is a chore for them. If they have to think about doing the backup and taking the drive home it won't get done, I guarantee it. I need this to be completely automated. The external hard drive is also only good if u get 2 or 3 of them and spread them out to different physical locations in case of fire or other natural disaster.

          Found on Bash.org [erno] hm. I've lost a machine.. literally _lost_. it responds to ping, it works completely, I just can't figure out where in my apartment it is.

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            Can anyone recommend an online backup service? I'm trying to find something that's affordable in the 5-30GB range (preferably less than $50USD/month). The problem I'm finding is the prices go through the roof after 2GB on the one's I've found on Google. There are several businesses I work with that I want to start using such a service. They have thousands of files that they are required by law to keep for 5 years. Any data loss is unacceptable and their current “backups” are mediocre at best. What I need is something that runs on 1 machine and does an initial backup at setup and then does incremental syncs every night after work hours (so the upload doesn't kill day to day internet use). Does anyone have a recommendation? [edit]I did find this[^]. The economy 25GB looks exactly like what I need. Would still like to know if anyone has anything better to recommend.[/edit]

            Found on Bash.org [erno] hm. I've lost a machine.. literally _lost_. it responds to ping, it works completely, I just can't figure out where in my apartment it is.

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            El Corazon
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            I agree with the USB drive option, unless you have to have off-site backup for fear of fire. An 80gig IDE, 5 year warrenty drive, will cost about $50. A USB case for the drive is $30 (or a nice one with a cooling fan is $50). That is two months, and you have twice your storage needs, and is upgradeable (just change the hard-drive). If you want off-site, buy two, and take one home (or if it is for home, take one to work), swap them at regular intervals. Some smaller companies will even pay you a small storage fee for keeping their backups offsite for them (it also names you as the holder in case there are issues of leaks). At work we have a backup server, 2 terabytes of storage which is much cheaper now (I just bought 1/2 TB at home last week). A network interconnect to another building, instant offsite backup. In our case the building is about 10 buildings away, if by chance someone figures out how to set fire to solid steel, maybe they didn't figure out firebrick.... or vice-versa. _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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              I don't mean to be rude, but the intended users are complete morons with computers. They know how to use their form app and that's it. E-mail is a chore for them. If they have to think about doing the backup and taking the drive home it won't get done, I guarantee it. I need this to be completely automated. The external hard drive is also only good if u get 2 or 3 of them and spread them out to different physical locations in case of fire or other natural disaster.

              Found on Bash.org [erno] hm. I've lost a machine.. literally _lost_. it responds to ping, it works completely, I just can't figure out where in my apartment it is.

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              Christian Graus
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              Does the user have more than one physical site ? Could you set up a service on your home machine and charge them $50 a month for using it ? Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++

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                Does the user have more than one physical site ? Could you set up a service on your home machine and charge them $50 a month for using it ? Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++

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                Steve McLenithan
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                That's a good idea:omg: I've got plenty of space on my server at home and lot's of bandwidth (8megabit/768kilobit). An encrypted tunnel + sync software would work beautifully. Thanks Christian :cool:

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                  That's a good idea:omg: I've got plenty of space on my server at home and lot's of bandwidth (8megabit/768kilobit). An encrypted tunnel + sync software would work beautifully. Thanks Christian :cool:

                  Found on Bash.org [erno] hm. I've lost a machine.. literally _lost_. it responds to ping, it works completely, I just can't figure out where in my apartment it is.

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                  El Corazon
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                  Steve McLenithan wrote:

                  An encrypted tunnel + sync software would work beautifully.

                  It does, quite well. And 500gb drives are going for near $350+, offsite backups are easy with networks. One years hosting at $99 a month will pay for an entire backup-server with RAID-1. _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                    That's a good idea:omg: I've got plenty of space on my server at home and lot's of bandwidth (8megabit/768kilobit). An encrypted tunnel + sync software would work beautifully. Thanks Christian :cool:

                    Found on Bash.org [erno] hm. I've lost a machine.. literally _lost_. it responds to ping, it works completely, I just can't figure out where in my apartment it is.

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                    Christian Graus
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                    *grin* No worries. Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++

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                      That's a good idea:omg: I've got plenty of space on my server at home and lot's of bandwidth (8megabit/768kilobit). An encrypted tunnel + sync software would work beautifully. Thanks Christian :cool:

                      Found on Bash.org [erno] hm. I've lost a machine.. literally _lost_. it responds to ping, it works completely, I just can't figure out where in my apartment it is.

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                      John L DeVito
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                      The only thing here though is now you are 100% responsible for that data, if something should happens, who knows what course of action the company can take Thanks, John

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                      • S Steve McLenithan

                        Can anyone recommend an online backup service? I'm trying to find something that's affordable in the 5-30GB range (preferably less than $50USD/month). The problem I'm finding is the prices go through the roof after 2GB on the one's I've found on Google. There are several businesses I work with that I want to start using such a service. They have thousands of files that they are required by law to keep for 5 years. Any data loss is unacceptable and their current “backups” are mediocre at best. What I need is something that runs on 1 machine and does an initial backup at setup and then does incremental syncs every night after work hours (so the upload doesn't kill day to day internet use). Does anyone have a recommendation? [edit]I did find this[^]. The economy 25GB looks exactly like what I need. Would still like to know if anyone has anything better to recommend.[/edit]

                        Found on Bash.org [erno] hm. I've lost a machine.. literally _lost_. it responds to ping, it works completely, I just can't figure out where in my apartment it is.

                        -- modified at 21:30 Wednesday 11th January, 2006

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                        Jon Sagara
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                        This isn't a hosted service, but you can use Veritas Replication Exec (formerly Storage Replicator) to do that. It does an initial "synchronization", and thereafter it only replicates file changes. I haven't worked on it for quite a while, so it could have different features, but that's what it did 1.5 years ago. Jon Sagara Look at him. He runs like a Welshman. Doesn't he run like a Welshman? Doesn't he? I think he runs like a Welshman. Sagara.org | Blog | My Articles

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                          The only thing here though is now you are 100% responsible for that data, if something should happens, who knows what course of action the company can take Thanks, John

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                          Ryan Binns
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                          John L. DeVito wrote:

                          The only thing here though is now you are 100% responsible for that data, if something should happens, who knows what course of action the company can take

                          That's what I was just thinking...

                          Ryan

                          "Punctuality is only a virtue for those who aren't smart enough to think of good excuses for being late" John Nichol "Point Of Impact"

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                            I agree with the USB drive option, unless you have to have off-site backup for fear of fire. An 80gig IDE, 5 year warrenty drive, will cost about $50. A USB case for the drive is $30 (or a nice one with a cooling fan is $50). That is two months, and you have twice your storage needs, and is upgradeable (just change the hard-drive). If you want off-site, buy two, and take one home (or if it is for home, take one to work), swap them at regular intervals. Some smaller companies will even pay you a small storage fee for keeping their backups offsite for them (it also names you as the holder in case there are issues of leaks). At work we have a backup server, 2 terabytes of storage which is much cheaper now (I just bought 1/2 TB at home last week). A network interconnect to another building, instant offsite backup. In our case the building is about 10 buildings away, if by chance someone figures out how to set fire to solid steel, maybe they didn't figure out firebrick.... or vice-versa. _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                            Ryan Binns
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                            Jeffry J. Brickley wrote:

                            Some smaller companies will even pay you a small storage fee for keeping their backups offsite for them

                            Safe-deposit boxes at banks can be good for that. They're pretty well protected.

                            Ryan

                            "Punctuality is only a virtue for those who aren't smart enough to think of good excuses for being late" John Nichol "Point Of Impact"

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                              I don't mean to be rude, but the intended users are complete morons with computers. They know how to use their form app and that's it. E-mail is a chore for them. If they have to think about doing the backup and taking the drive home it won't get done, I guarantee it. I need this to be completely automated. The external hard drive is also only good if u get 2 or 3 of them and spread them out to different physical locations in case of fire or other natural disaster.

                              Found on Bash.org [erno] hm. I've lost a machine.. literally _lost_. it responds to ping, it works completely, I just can't figure out where in my apartment it is.

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                              TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                              Steve McLenithan wrote:

                              complete morons with computers

                              i understand. well, I think the backup software can be setup to do an automated backup. but i like christian's idea of you charging the company $50 per month and having the backup space setup on your server at home. then it would be a matter of you taking a harddrive to the bank vault once a week. good luck

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                                Can anyone recommend an online backup service? I'm trying to find something that's affordable in the 5-30GB range (preferably less than $50USD/month). The problem I'm finding is the prices go through the roof after 2GB on the one's I've found on Google. There are several businesses I work with that I want to start using such a service. They have thousands of files that they are required by law to keep for 5 years. Any data loss is unacceptable and their current “backups” are mediocre at best. What I need is something that runs on 1 machine and does an initial backup at setup and then does incremental syncs every night after work hours (so the upload doesn't kill day to day internet use). Does anyone have a recommendation? [edit]I did find this[^]. The economy 25GB looks exactly like what I need. Would still like to know if anyone has anything better to recommend.[/edit]

                                Found on Bash.org [erno] hm. I've lost a machine.. literally _lost_. it responds to ping, it works completely, I just can't figure out where in my apartment it is.

                                -- modified at 21:30 Wednesday 11th January, 2006

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                                TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                                xdrive seems to be what you're looking for at the price point you're looking for: $10/5GB per month: workgroup pricing[^] "Plus" pricing[^]

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                                  Jeffry J. Brickley wrote:

                                  Some smaller companies will even pay you a small storage fee for keeping their backups offsite for them

                                  Safe-deposit boxes at banks can be good for that. They're pretty well protected.

                                  Ryan

                                  "Punctuality is only a virtue for those who aren't smart enough to think of good excuses for being late" John Nichol "Point Of Impact"

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                                  El Corazon
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                                  Ryan Binns wrote:

                                  Safe-deposit boxes at banks can be good for that. They're pretty well protected.

                                  Yes but they keep lousy hours.... ;) _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                                    Ryan Binns wrote:

                                    Safe-deposit boxes at banks can be good for that. They're pretty well protected.

                                    Yes but they keep lousy hours.... ;) _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                                    Jeffry J. Brickley wrote:

                                    Yes but they keep lousy hours....

                                    True :)

                                    Ryan

                                    "Punctuality is only a virtue for those who aren't smart enough to think of good excuses for being late" John Nichol "Point Of Impact"

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                                      Can anyone recommend an online backup service? I'm trying to find something that's affordable in the 5-30GB range (preferably less than $50USD/month). The problem I'm finding is the prices go through the roof after 2GB on the one's I've found on Google. There are several businesses I work with that I want to start using such a service. They have thousands of files that they are required by law to keep for 5 years. Any data loss is unacceptable and their current “backups” are mediocre at best. What I need is something that runs on 1 machine and does an initial backup at setup and then does incremental syncs every night after work hours (so the upload doesn't kill day to day internet use). Does anyone have a recommendation? [edit]I did find this[^]. The economy 25GB looks exactly like what I need. Would still like to know if anyone has anything better to recommend.[/edit]

                                      Found on Bash.org [erno] hm. I've lost a machine.. literally _lost_. it responds to ping, it works completely, I just can't figure out where in my apartment it is.

                                      -- modified at 21:30 Wednesday 11th January, 2006

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                                      Neville Franks
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                                      When I used these online backup services in the past they were very slow and I gave up. I backup to my own remote server these days. I'd look at getting a Dedicated or VDS/VPS server of your own. I don't like the idea of hosting it at home. Not worth the risk or the worry. Neville Franks, Author of Surfulater www.surfulater.com "Save what you Surf" and ED for Windows www.getsoft.com

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