Most Americans are cold-blood...
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ppp001 wrote:
No matter the US ppl still keep silient, their God won't... At last
the US ppl will suffer from their sin....You have done many things I wouldn't advise someone do. You've made a lot of mean assumptions that I'm not even going to address because frankly it doesn't matter. However your statement above the one I just quoted. That one I'd regret if I were you. I might sound like the bad guys that just did whatever you claim to 17 people. But in America and right now I would not put that statement on the internet at all. You are a fool. Rest assured that statements like that will get you deported from this country very quickly and they might even get criminal charges applied to you before you leave.
Not only are you filled with assumptions and biased anger you are foolish. If I were you I would be very concerned about your activities for several weeks and months even years after putting something like that on a website in America. You do not understand the game you play. Not at all. Live a perfect life and make no mistakes and hope nobody sees this statement... Geez you really need to think a bit more before you post something like that... That's just crazy.
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code-frog wrote:
Rest assured that statements like that will get you deported from this country very quickly and they might even get criminal charges applied to you before you leave.
Even if he's an idiot, I still believe in Freedom of Speach. And, considering what our forefathers went though to earn that, I will not let it go lightly. Jeremy Falcon
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Hi all, Most Americans are cold-blood. The American solders just killed a happy innocent family(17 members) in a peaceful Pakistan village a few days ago. Most Americans keep silent on this stuff. They permited their Government in doing so in the name of all Americans coz US is a democratic country (as they said). I am not an American, but if anyone steal my name to perform any sins or crimes, I will fight back. I dont know why the Americans don't fight back, maybe their government did too many bad stuff in name of them, so they become cold-blood. Even the 17 ppl life did nothing to me, and I have no religions, I still spend a few ten minutes to write this post to blame all americans.... Americans invent the XP methodology(Exreme programming) in software, they also invent the XS (extreme selfish). Americans will cry if their pets die, but they won't drop a tear or say one word if a happy family (17 members) die in the other end of the earth. Coz the pets belong to them, and the happy family has no relation with them. Most Americans have religions and believed in God, but they only want to get the peace and joy from God, and contribute nothing to other ppl.... The selfishness can be seen in the case the US mother lose his son in the war in IRAQ. As her son was killed, she stood out to fight back the government coz her son belong to her. The 17 persons life loss is just one of the many many bad stuff that conducted in the world by the US "democratic" government in the name of all US citizens. Just can't believe most US ppl believed in God. No matter the US ppl still keep silient, their God won't... At last the US ppl will suffer from their sin....
The same cold blooded Americans who gave over $500,000,000 in relief for Pakistani's after the earthquake? BW
If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
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To ppp001, According to your bio, your location is "United States." If you are really here, and you don't like the way the American government handles things, then GO HOME! Note this, the general American public cannot dictate what the CIA choses to do. How about those extremist that we are at "war" with, taking down the World Trade Center is pretty COLD-BLOODED. PC
Is this peace? Killing 17 innocent people? Is this INTELLIGENCE? For killing one man, bombing the whole village? Nobody in here is supporting terrorism. But, the Americans as we know, should do their job in more intelligent and clear way, if they want to be right in their action.
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code-frog wrote:
Rest assured that statements like that will get you deported from this country very quickly and they might even get criminal charges applied to you before you leave.
Even if he's an idiot, I still believe in Freedom of Speach. And, considering what our forefathers went though to earn that, I will not let it go lightly. Jeremy Falcon
2 things I doubt.
1. I doubt this guy is an American citizen and the right you invoke is *our* right not his.
2. I don't care who you are. If you can get a visit for checking out a book from a library written by a famous dead communist then making a public statement like this is just a bad idea and I don't care whose right it is. Some things are smart, this wasn't. It's a knock on my door I wouldn't want. It's common sense and this is evidence of none.Some assembly required.
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2 things I doubt.
1. I doubt this guy is an American citizen and the right you invoke is *our* right not his.
2. I don't care who you are. If you can get a visit for checking out a book from a library written by a famous dead communist then making a public statement like this is just a bad idea and I don't care whose right it is. Some things are smart, this wasn't. It's a knock on my door I wouldn't want. It's common sense and this is evidence of none.Some assembly required.
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code-frog wrote:
1. I doubt this guy is an American citizen and the right you invoke is *our* right not his.
Well, it may be our right legally (dunno the law that well), but I believe it should be everyone's right. He shold be free to be stupid, and we should be free enough to call him stupid. :)
code-frog wrote:
2. I don't care who you are. If you can get a visit for checking out a book from a library written by a famous dead communist then making a public statement like this is just a bad idea and I don't care whose right it is. Some things are smart, this wasn't. It's a knock on my door I wouldn't want. It's common sense and this is evidence of none.
Well, if the CIA came knocking on his door to have a pow-wow that would be cool actually (in a weird way). But, if he did go to jail over something as trivial as that post, then we have a serious problem in this country far greater than some foreign inbred leeaching on our ecomony (and yeah, if people hate this country so much but are over here and use it for finacial gain, they're leaching IMO). FWIW, I seriously doubt the CIA even cares about him. Jeremy Falcon
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code-frog wrote:
1. I doubt this guy is an American citizen and the right you invoke is *our* right not his.
Well, it may be our right legally (dunno the law that well), but I believe it should be everyone's right. He shold be free to be stupid, and we should be free enough to call him stupid. :)
code-frog wrote:
2. I don't care who you are. If you can get a visit for checking out a book from a library written by a famous dead communist then making a public statement like this is just a bad idea and I don't care whose right it is. Some things are smart, this wasn't. It's a knock on my door I wouldn't want. It's common sense and this is evidence of none.
Well, if the CIA came knocking on his door to have a pow-wow that would be cool actually (in a weird way). But, if he did go to jail over something as trivial as that post, then we have a serious problem in this country far greater than some foreign inbred leeaching on our ecomony (and yeah, if people hate this country so much but are over here and use it for finacial gain, they're leaching IMO). FWIW, I seriously doubt the CIA even cares about him. Jeremy Falcon
Jeremy Falcon wrote:
then we have a serious problem in this country
Agreed. My point is that I probably wouldn't want the experience myself personally. He's free to say it but in this country you are accountable for what you say. Your speech may be free and so are many other things. You are free to drive a car (basically) and you are free to drive it into a wall at high speed. That doesn't mean that's a smart thing to do...:laugh: Just because something is free doesn't always make it a good thing... and I think you get the twist I'm putting on that piece of humor (warped though it is).
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Hi all, Most Americans are cold-blood. The American solders just killed a happy innocent family(17 members) in a peaceful Pakistan village a few days ago. Most Americans keep silent on this stuff. They permited their Government in doing so in the name of all Americans coz US is a democratic country (as they said). I am not an American, but if anyone steal my name to perform any sins or crimes, I will fight back. I dont know why the Americans don't fight back, maybe their government did too many bad stuff in name of them, so they become cold-blood. Even the 17 ppl life did nothing to me, and I have no religions, I still spend a few ten minutes to write this post to blame all americans.... Americans invent the XP methodology(Exreme programming) in software, they also invent the XS (extreme selfish). Americans will cry if their pets die, but they won't drop a tear or say one word if a happy family (17 members) die in the other end of the earth. Coz the pets belong to them, and the happy family has no relation with them. Most Americans have religions and believed in God, but they only want to get the peace and joy from God, and contribute nothing to other ppl.... The selfishness can be seen in the case the US mother lose his son in the war in IRAQ. As her son was killed, she stood out to fight back the government coz her son belong to her. The 17 persons life loss is just one of the many many bad stuff that conducted in the world by the US "democratic" government in the name of all US citizens. Just can't believe most US ppl believed in God. No matter the US ppl still keep silient, their God won't... At last the US ppl will suffer from their sin....
Well, I'm just glad to see that not all bigots in CP are american. Beyond that, generalization of this kind is pointless and inane. It shows nothing, explains nothing, describes nothing, and proves nothing. Most of the opinions expressed so far on this topic are those of the authors and any effort to impose their views on anyone else while pretending to speak for all americans, or while claiming to know what americans think or don't think, is futile and irrelevant.
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The same cold blooded Americans who gave over $500,000,000 in relief for Pakistani's after the earthquake? BW
If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
-- Steven Wrightso you bought your right to kill civilians?
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Hi all, Most Americans are cold-blood. The American solders just killed a happy innocent family(17 members) in a peaceful Pakistan village a few days ago. Most Americans keep silent on this stuff. They permited their Government in doing so in the name of all Americans coz US is a democratic country (as they said). I am not an American, but if anyone steal my name to perform any sins or crimes, I will fight back. I dont know why the Americans don't fight back, maybe their government did too many bad stuff in name of them, so they become cold-blood. Even the 17 ppl life did nothing to me, and I have no religions, I still spend a few ten minutes to write this post to blame all americans.... Americans invent the XP methodology(Exreme programming) in software, they also invent the XS (extreme selfish). Americans will cry if their pets die, but they won't drop a tear or say one word if a happy family (17 members) die in the other end of the earth. Coz the pets belong to them, and the happy family has no relation with them. Most Americans have religions and believed in God, but they only want to get the peace and joy from God, and contribute nothing to other ppl.... The selfishness can be seen in the case the US mother lose his son in the war in IRAQ. As her son was killed, she stood out to fight back the government coz her son belong to her. The 17 persons life loss is just one of the many many bad stuff that conducted in the world by the US "democratic" government in the name of all US citizens. Just can't believe most US ppl believed in God. No matter the US ppl still keep silient, their God won't... At last the US ppl will suffer from their sin....
The problem is, of course, the 17 people killed, but not only this. The US Army violed Pakistan's National Sovereignty. In other words, they performed a raid outsite the borders of Afghanistan, and inside another Country. I'm really concerned about those people, but USA have to admit that they do whatever thay want, at any moment and in any place. I'm reading The Sorrows of Empire[^] by Chalmers Johnson. I suggest you all to read this book, it's really instructive. If I didn't read this book, I wouldn't say what I said here. Now the international situation is clear to me. ___________________________________ Tozzi is right: Gaia is getting rid of us. My Blog [ITA]
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so you bought your right to kill civilians?
The money included private donations from US citizens and is a far greater judge of character than a botched military excursion. BW
If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
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Ok, for one your title "Most Americans are cold-blood..." is a cognitive distortion, as you cannot prove this. This clearly demonstrates you are retarded before I can read the post. Now, on to making you look like even more of an idiot...
ppp001 wrote:
Most Americans are cold-blood. The American solders just killed a happy innocent family(17 members) in a peaceful Pakistan village a few days ago.
Ok, here we infer what millions of people think by the actions a few soldiers? Smooth move there. Also, do you know all the details of this event or just what the media/your prejudices lead you to believe. Also, while innocent people dying is never good, don't judge people at war until you've walked a mile in their shoes. Furthermore, unless you have proof of them being cold-blooded, we have a thing over hear called "innocent until proven guilty."
ppp001 wrote:
but they won't drop a tear or say one word if a happy family (17 members) die in the other end of the earth.
I had a friend of a friend die in Hurricane Katrina. Did you cry for this person? Did you break down and cry tears for the rest of the victims?
ppp001 wrote:
The selfishness can be seen in the case the US mother lose his son in the war in IRAQ. As her son was killed, she stood out to fight back the government coz her son belong to her.
Once again, do you know all the details? Do you think even if your country a woman or any could assault a police officer and not be killed/jailed? Sure, the soldiers MAY have been in the wrong, you're not giving us the full story it seems, and you probably don't even know it.
ppp001 wrote:
The 17 persons life loss is just one of the many many bad stuff that conducted in the world by the US "democratic" government in the name of all US citizens. Just can't believe most US ppl believed in God.
Let's not forgot all the good we do for the world. And btw, you said yourself you're willing to protect your own, and so are we. So shut the hell up hypocrite.
ppp001 wrote:
No matter the US ppl still keep silient, their God won't... At last the US ppl will suffer from their sin....
Gee, you're starting to sound like the people you claim to hate. Jeremy Falcon
Jeremy Falcon wrote:
Ok, here we infer what millions of people think by the actions a few soldiers? Smooth move there.
Copy/Paste of my reply to Shog :- Yeah, that'd be like blaming all Muslims for the actions of a terrorist minority, and we know no one does that! :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: Regards, Nish
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ppp001 wrote:
I am not an American, but if anyone steal my name to performany sins or crimes, I will fight back.
So whose name has been stolen? Don't tell me you are prepared to lay blame on each individual American for the mistakes and crimes of their leaders and armies! We each have responsibilities and duties to one another, and these end with the influence we have been granted - unless you can claim to lead and control the citizens of your country, you cannot be held responsible for all of their actions.
ppp001 wrote:
No matter the US ppl still keep silient, their God won't... At lastthe US ppl will suffer from their sin...
You hope to see God's vengeance played out against the US, but cannot fathom that the US may be an instrument of His vengeance against Pakistanis? You talk of their innocence, but who are you to say how this family stood in the eyes of God? Do not be worried - God will avenge the weak, and those who prey upon them will answer for their lack of mercy. Do not take it upon yourself to call down judgment upon those you do not know, for crimes they cannot answer for.
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Shog9 wrote:
Don't tell me you are prepared to lay blame on each individual American for the mistakes and crimes of their leaders and armies!
Yeah, that'd be like blaming all Muslims for the actions of a terrorist minority, and we know no one does that! :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: Regards, Nish
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ppp001 wrote:
No matter the US ppl still keep silient, their God won't... At last
the US ppl will suffer from their sin....You have done many things I wouldn't advise someone do. You've made a lot of mean assumptions that I'm not even going to address because frankly it doesn't matter. However your statement above the one I just quoted. That one I'd regret if I were you. I might sound like the bad guys that just did whatever you claim to 17 people. But in America and right now I would not put that statement on the internet at all. You are a fool. Rest assured that statements like that will get you deported from this country very quickly and they might even get criminal charges applied to you before you leave.
Not only are you filled with assumptions and biased anger you are foolish. If I were you I would be very concerned about your activities for several weeks and months even years after putting something like that on a website in America. You do not understand the game you play. Not at all. Live a perfect life and make no mistakes and hope nobody sees this statement... Geez you really need to think a bit more before you post something like that... That's just crazy.
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Hi all, Most Americans are cold-blood. The American solders just killed a happy innocent family(17 members) in a peaceful Pakistan village a few days ago. Most Americans keep silent on this stuff. They permited their Government in doing so in the name of all Americans coz US is a democratic country (as they said). I am not an American, but if anyone steal my name to perform any sins or crimes, I will fight back. I dont know why the Americans don't fight back, maybe their government did too many bad stuff in name of them, so they become cold-blood. Even the 17 ppl life did nothing to me, and I have no religions, I still spend a few ten minutes to write this post to blame all americans.... Americans invent the XP methodology(Exreme programming) in software, they also invent the XS (extreme selfish). Americans will cry if their pets die, but they won't drop a tear or say one word if a happy family (17 members) die in the other end of the earth. Coz the pets belong to them, and the happy family has no relation with them. Most Americans have religions and believed in God, but they only want to get the peace and joy from God, and contribute nothing to other ppl.... The selfishness can be seen in the case the US mother lose his son in the war in IRAQ. As her son was killed, she stood out to fight back the government coz her son belong to her. The 17 persons life loss is just one of the many many bad stuff that conducted in the world by the US "democratic" government in the name of all US citizens. Just can't believe most US ppl believed in God. No matter the US ppl still keep silient, their God won't... At last the US ppl will suffer from their sin....
Wow. Such narrow minded words making wide generalizations of the people of the United States. First. I seriously doubt the soldiers involved, meaning the guy in the cockpit of the plane that dropped the bomb, knew anything firsthand about the target they were told to bomb. They don't deserve any blame if the picked target was bad. The soldiers "on the front line" are provided very limited information about what they're doing or why. They also don't have to right to ask. They're given their orders and they are expected to follow them without question. The statement "Most Americans are cold-blodded" is utter BS because you obviously don't know most Americans. But, if we're so "cold-blooded", why is it that when there is a major disaster anywhere in the world, it's just about always the "cold-blooded" Americans that show up first with the most help and aid? Where is any mention of your views on that in your "argument"? RageInTheMachine9532 "...a pungent, ghastly, stinky piece of cheese!" -- The Roaming Gnome
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Hi all, Most Americans are cold-blood. The American solders just killed a happy innocent family(17 members) in a peaceful Pakistan village a few days ago. Most Americans keep silent on this stuff. They permited their Government in doing so in the name of all Americans coz US is a democratic country (as they said). I am not an American, but if anyone steal my name to perform any sins or crimes, I will fight back. I dont know why the Americans don't fight back, maybe their government did too many bad stuff in name of them, so they become cold-blood. Even the 17 ppl life did nothing to me, and I have no religions, I still spend a few ten minutes to write this post to blame all americans.... Americans invent the XP methodology(Exreme programming) in software, they also invent the XS (extreme selfish). Americans will cry if their pets die, but they won't drop a tear or say one word if a happy family (17 members) die in the other end of the earth. Coz the pets belong to them, and the happy family has no relation with them. Most Americans have religions and believed in God, but they only want to get the peace and joy from God, and contribute nothing to other ppl.... The selfishness can be seen in the case the US mother lose his son in the war in IRAQ. As her son was killed, she stood out to fight back the government coz her son belong to her. The 17 persons life loss is just one of the many many bad stuff that conducted in the world by the US "democratic" government in the name of all US citizens. Just can't believe most US ppl believed in God. No matter the US ppl still keep silient, their God won't... At last the US ppl will suffer from their sin....
So you 100% disagree with the inelegance passed on to the US but you agree 100% with the locals saying they are only innocent? Just like when a person is shot after breaking into someones house. The family and friends all gather to tell the media that this was such a great person and they would do no wrong. Yet they were in someone else house uninvited. Whole village? It was 3 houses. At least get something right. Lets wait and see how innocent they were. I am sure some reports will come out in the near future. I will wait until more facts come along to see if this was bad intel or justified. Even now photos are emerging showing Al-Queda linked terrorist camsp that operated in Iraq for over 4 years but hey we keep hearing they were never there. Pleas crawel back under whatever rock you came out from uunder
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ppp001 wrote:
Most Americans are cold-blood. The American solders just killed a happy innocent family(17 members) in a peaceful Pakistan village a few days ago. Most Americans keep silent on this stuff. They permited their Government in doing so in the name of all Americans coz US is a democratic country (as they said). I am not an American, but if anyone steal my name to perform any sins or crimes, I will fight back. I dont know why the Americans don't fight back, maybe their government did too many bad stuff in name of them, so they become cold-blood.
I am sorry about the 17 people killed. Even if they were all soldiors and had bombs strapped around their middle and were all about to blow up a group of school girls on a bus. No Matter. As an American, I feel bad about the 17. Even if they were relegious leaders who taught followers to kill 100's of other innocent people because the religion demanded it. I would still feel bad about the 17. The "Problem" with America is that we have decided that we should not make judgments based on what uninformed people say. We do not oppose our government....we support it....we support it because we built it and run it ourselves. Yes, MOST Americans are not involved in what the military does. We have trust that the military KNOWS where FORCE needs to be used and where it is wrong. NOBODY in America thinks that the Military is always correct and right. But we have faith that our soldiers....our children....CAN figure out right from wrong. WE BELIEVE that the military does make mistakes. But we KNOW IN OUR HEARTS that it is not our INTENTION to kill, mame, torchure, or even hurt people in other countries. It will happen.....but our GOAL is to create peace....even on the other side of the world from us. We INTEND to create peace. And we make mistakes too. We ALL are sorry about mistakes. Every true American is sorry about mistakes. But (most of us) will not stand against our soldiers. They are our children and they are Volunteers too. sky
It is the leaders you have to sort out yet I see no sign of this. The tigress is here :-D
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so you bought your right to kill civilians?
That's about a dumb of statement as anyone could make. Jeremy Falcon
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The problem is, of course, the 17 people killed, but not only this. The US Army violed Pakistan's National Sovereignty. In other words, they performed a raid outsite the borders of Afghanistan, and inside another Country. I'm really concerned about those people, but USA have to admit that they do whatever thay want, at any moment and in any place. I'm reading The Sorrows of Empire[^] by Chalmers Johnson. I suggest you all to read this book, it's really instructive. If I didn't read this book, I wouldn't say what I said here. Now the international situation is clear to me. ___________________________________ Tozzi is right: Gaia is getting rid of us. My Blog [ITA]
Dario Solera wrote:
The US Army violed Pakistan's National Sovereignty
it's probably safe to assume the US had permission. Cleek | Image Toolkits | Thumbnail maker
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It is the leaders you have to sort out yet I see no sign of this. The tigress is here :-D
Trollslayer wrote:
It is the leaders you have to sort out yet I see no sign of this.
as much as you may displike our choice, we have the leaders we want. Mike "We ain't stuck on stupid." badass Lt. General Russel Honore **"Remember - live bunnies are a great source of nourishment"**silly-assed cartoon A vegan is someone who never heard a carrot cry!
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The problem is, of course, the 17 people killed, but not only this. The US Army violed Pakistan's National Sovereignty. In other words, they performed a raid outsite the borders of Afghanistan, and inside another Country. I'm really concerned about those people, but USA have to admit that they do whatever thay want, at any moment and in any place. I'm reading The Sorrows of Empire[^] by Chalmers Johnson. I suggest you all to read this book, it's really instructive. If I didn't read this book, I wouldn't say what I said here. Now the international situation is clear to me. ___________________________________ Tozzi is right: Gaia is getting rid of us. My Blog [ITA]
Dario Solera wrote:
The US Army violed Pakistan's National Sovereignty.
No, it was a CIA operation, not a military one. The CIA is not the US Army. And to presume that the operation was without the knowlege and aquiescence of the Pakistani Government is not sensible. The intelligence that prompted the attack very likely came from the Pakistanis.
Dario Solera wrote:
but USA have to admit that they do whatever thay want, at any moment and in any place.
If that were universally true, we would have invaded Iraq through Turkey, which would have likely shortened the war as was initiallly planned...it was clear we wanted that to happen, but did not because Turkey chose to dissallow it. Absolute faith corrupts as absolutely as absolute power Eric Hoffer All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Edmund Burke