Most Americans are cold-blood...
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ppp001 wrote:
Most Americans are cold-blood. The American solders just killed a happy innocent family(17 members) in a peaceful Pakistan village a few days ago. Most Americans keep silent on this stuff. They permited their Government in doing so in the name of all Americans coz US is a democratic country (as they said). I am not an American, but if anyone steal my name to perform any sins or crimes, I will fight back. I dont know why the Americans don't fight back, maybe their government did too many bad stuff in name of them, so they become cold-blood.
I am sorry about the 17 people killed. Even if they were all soldiors and had bombs strapped around their middle and were all about to blow up a group of school girls on a bus. No Matter. As an American, I feel bad about the 17. Even if they were relegious leaders who taught followers to kill 100's of other innocent people because the religion demanded it. I would still feel bad about the 17. The "Problem" with America is that we have decided that we should not make judgments based on what uninformed people say. We do not oppose our government....we support it....we support it because we built it and run it ourselves. Yes, MOST Americans are not involved in what the military does. We have trust that the military KNOWS where FORCE needs to be used and where it is wrong. NOBODY in America thinks that the Military is always correct and right. But we have faith that our soldiers....our children....CAN figure out right from wrong. WE BELIEVE that the military does make mistakes. But we KNOW IN OUR HEARTS that it is not our INTENTION to kill, mame, torchure, or even hurt people in other countries. It will happen.....but our GOAL is to create peace....even on the other side of the world from us. We INTEND to create peace. And we make mistakes too. We ALL are sorry about mistakes. Every true American is sorry about mistakes. But (most of us) will not stand against our soldiers. They are our children and they are Volunteers too. sky
It is the leaders you have to sort out yet I see no sign of this. The tigress is here :-D
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so you bought your right to kill civilians?
That's about a dumb of statement as anyone could make. Jeremy Falcon
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It is the leaders you have to sort out yet I see no sign of this. The tigress is here :-D
Trollslayer wrote:
It is the leaders you have to sort out yet I see no sign of this.
as much as you may displike our choice, we have the leaders we want. Mike "We ain't stuck on stupid." badass Lt. General Russel Honore **"Remember - live bunnies are a great source of nourishment"**silly-assed cartoon A vegan is someone who never heard a carrot cry!
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The problem is, of course, the 17 people killed, but not only this. The US Army violed Pakistan's National Sovereignty. In other words, they performed a raid outsite the borders of Afghanistan, and inside another Country. I'm really concerned about those people, but USA have to admit that they do whatever thay want, at any moment and in any place. I'm reading The Sorrows of Empire[^] by Chalmers Johnson. I suggest you all to read this book, it's really instructive. If I didn't read this book, I wouldn't say what I said here. Now the international situation is clear to me. ___________________________________ Tozzi is right: Gaia is getting rid of us. My Blog [ITA]
Dario Solera wrote:
The US Army violed Pakistan's National Sovereignty
it's probably safe to assume the US had permission. Cleek | Image Toolkits | Thumbnail maker
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The problem is, of course, the 17 people killed, but not only this. The US Army violed Pakistan's National Sovereignty. In other words, they performed a raid outsite the borders of Afghanistan, and inside another Country. I'm really concerned about those people, but USA have to admit that they do whatever thay want, at any moment and in any place. I'm reading The Sorrows of Empire[^] by Chalmers Johnson. I suggest you all to read this book, it's really instructive. If I didn't read this book, I wouldn't say what I said here. Now the international situation is clear to me. ___________________________________ Tozzi is right: Gaia is getting rid of us. My Blog [ITA]
Dario Solera wrote:
The US Army violed Pakistan's National Sovereignty.
No, it was a CIA operation, not a military one. The CIA is not the US Army. And to presume that the operation was without the knowlege and aquiescence of the Pakistani Government is not sensible. The intelligence that prompted the attack very likely came from the Pakistanis.
Dario Solera wrote:
but USA have to admit that they do whatever thay want, at any moment and in any place.
If that were universally true, we would have invaded Iraq through Turkey, which would have likely shortened the war as was initiallly planned...it was clear we wanted that to happen, but did not because Turkey chose to dissallow it. Absolute faith corrupts as absolutely as absolute power Eric Hoffer All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Edmund Burke
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Hi all, Most Americans are cold-blood. The American solders just killed a happy innocent family(17 members) in a peaceful Pakistan village a few days ago. Most Americans keep silent on this stuff. They permited their Government in doing so in the name of all Americans coz US is a democratic country (as they said). I am not an American, but if anyone steal my name to perform any sins or crimes, I will fight back. I dont know why the Americans don't fight back, maybe their government did too many bad stuff in name of them, so they become cold-blood. Even the 17 ppl life did nothing to me, and I have no religions, I still spend a few ten minutes to write this post to blame all americans.... Americans invent the XP methodology(Exreme programming) in software, they also invent the XS (extreme selfish). Americans will cry if their pets die, but they won't drop a tear or say one word if a happy family (17 members) die in the other end of the earth. Coz the pets belong to them, and the happy family has no relation with them. Most Americans have religions and believed in God, but they only want to get the peace and joy from God, and contribute nothing to other ppl.... The selfishness can be seen in the case the US mother lose his son in the war in IRAQ. As her son was killed, she stood out to fight back the government coz her son belong to her. The 17 persons life loss is just one of the many many bad stuff that conducted in the world by the US "democratic" government in the name of all US citizens. Just can't believe most US ppl believed in God. No matter the US ppl still keep silient, their God won't... At last the US ppl will suffer from their sin....
PPP said; "Most Americans are cold-blood." That is like saying that most Muslims are cold blooded killers. Neither statement is correct. To make generalizations like that just shows how ignorant, and bigoted, you are. How much say do you have about what your government does in your name. None! The only thing that Americans can do is have a 1/300 Million say in who gets elected which is not a lot of power on an individual basis. I suggest that if you feel the way you do that you should leave America. To stay there believing what you do is not being true to your beliefs. America welcomes Muslims [provided they do not want to harm the US] as well as people from any other belief. Does your country of origin extend the same liberties to all people, regardless of their beliefs? I think not! You are a pitiful disgrace to whatever culture you come from. Tolerance is a virtue, taught by Mohammad, which you obviously do not possess. If you choose to stay it would be polite to not bite the hand that feeds you. Have some respect when you are a guest in someone else’s home. Alternatively, go back home and speak out about how bad it is to live in the US and how terrible all Americans are. I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopes
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I agree with him. Civil liberties (although they are diminishing rapidly) are what make America strong. Unfortunately people have forgotten the sacrifices of the folks that came before. The founding fathers championed freedom of speech for a good reason. Unfortunately, requesting the Federalist Papers (as they are called) from your local library would probably get the dreaded “knock on the door” because they are definitely counter establishment as it existed at the time. I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopes
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You know this is about the stupidest thing I've ever heard. My only point and I guess most of you just are not smart enough to get it is. That if (in this country) a guy can get a visit just for checking a book out of a library. Saying something like Americans will pay for their sin in a public site is inviting trouble. That's my only point. It doesn't seem like the smartest thing in the world.
Telling someone you don't know, have never met, have never had the chance to dialog with at all that they are on crack and implying they just confirmed it robs you of any credibility at all. Why would you choose to do such a thing? Not only is it shallow, impossible to prove and arrogant it just makes no sense at all.
I'm shocked at the number of 1 votes I drew. I guess that's what it means anymore to still respect police officers, school teachers and elected officials. I still say please, thank you, yes sir and no maam because it's polite. The 1's I've collected indicate that I'm among some pretty interesting company.
I'm very proud to be an American, this is my home it is my land. My father watched his friends die as he fought on behalf of this land and my grand father whitnessed horrors on behalf of this land. My fellow Americans are life, living and precious. I would never pronounce a judgement upon them or against them but I would surely stand up against anyone who tried to. We are not the strong country we once were. We are now divided and weak. As a nation we lack the strength and conviction that once made us great. The fact this is now considered "on crack" is saddening and has produced a strong sense of dismay for me. But understand something this is my home, this is my nation. I will not sit idly, nor will I take casually a threat directed by emotion or conviction against myself or my fellow Americans. If I am going to suffer for my sins and someone is willing to say "finally" that's a serious and grave thing. I will never not take something like that seriously and if you think that makes me needful of a drug test that is very, very sad.
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Trollslayer wrote:
It is the leaders you have to sort out yet I see no sign of this.
as much as you may displike our choice, we have the leaders we want. Mike "We ain't stuck on stupid." badass Lt. General Russel Honore **"Remember - live bunnies are a great source of nourishment"**silly-assed cartoon A vegan is someone who never heard a carrot cry!
((Trollslayer wrote: It is the leaders you have to sort out yet I see no sign of this.)) [as much as you may displike our choice, we have the leaders we want.Mike] We can say we don't like our leaders. But it is our decision to support them ahead of time. If they look for wepons of mass destruction and don't find them, we still support them. If they have sex with the Pizza Girl in the white house, we still...I regret...support them. Most important, the soldiers....our 19YO kids.....fight and still support them.
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code-frog wrote:
1. I doubt this guy is an American citizen and the right you invoke is *our* right not his.
Well, it may be our right legally (dunno the law that well), but I believe it should be everyone's right. He shold be free to be stupid, and we should be free enough to call him stupid. :)
code-frog wrote:
2. I don't care who you are. If you can get a visit for checking out a book from a library written by a famous dead communist then making a public statement like this is just a bad idea and I don't care whose right it is. Some things are smart, this wasn't. It's a knock on my door I wouldn't want. It's common sense and this is evidence of none.
Well, if the CIA came knocking on his door to have a pow-wow that would be cool actually (in a weird way). But, if he did go to jail over something as trivial as that post, then we have a serious problem in this country far greater than some foreign inbred leeaching on our ecomony (and yeah, if people hate this country so much but are over here and use it for finacial gain, they're leaching IMO). FWIW, I seriously doubt the CIA even cares about him. Jeremy Falcon
Jeremy Falcon wrote:
1. I doubt this guy is an American citizen and the right you invoke is *our* right not his. Well, it may be our right legally (dunno the law that well), but I believe it should be everyone's right. He shold be free to be stupid, and we should be free enough to call him stupid.
He is free to be stupid. Though he is lucky to be able to speak publicly. Back home he might loose his family for such stupidity. But here, he gets to speak out, and borrow our language to do it also.....lucky guy. That's what makes our country better than his. That's the kind of freedom we are fighting for. We are actually killing people in other nations so that they will be able to speak out over there also. So it must be a good thing to be able to listen to such drivel. Lucky us too. Sky
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Jeremy Falcon wrote:
1. I doubt this guy is an American citizen and the right you invoke is *our* right not his. Well, it may be our right legally (dunno the law that well), but I believe it should be everyone's right. He shold be free to be stupid, and we should be free enough to call him stupid.
He is free to be stupid. Though he is lucky to be able to speak publicly. Back home he might loose his family for such stupidity. But here, he gets to speak out, and borrow our language to do it also.....lucky guy. That's what makes our country better than his. That's the kind of freedom we are fighting for. We are actually killing people in other nations so that they will be able to speak out over there also. So it must be a good thing to be able to listen to such drivel. Lucky us too. Sky
My comments were not against his right to do so. They were more an angle of "is it wise" to do so. There's a few people here who don't seem to get that though. But as far as your comments go. Here it's our right and I'd fight to defend it. Abroad, that's a confusing mess and I just cannot get involved in that. There's so much spin going on with all of it. It's a very hard thing to fully understand (for me at least). What is really true? Who ordered it if it is true? Was it an accident or intentional? Have we done it before? Will we do it again? UGHHHHHHH!!!!
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That's about a dumb of statement as anyone could make. Jeremy Falcon
FYI, it was a question, not a statement.
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2 things I doubt.
1. I doubt this guy is an American citizen and the right you invoke is *our* right not his.
2. I don't care who you are. If you can get a visit for checking out a book from a library written by a famous dead communist then making a public statement like this is just a bad idea and I don't care whose right it is. Some things are smart, this wasn't. It's a knock on my door I wouldn't want. It's common sense and this is evidence of none.Some assembly required.
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code-frog wrote:
If you can get a visit for checking out a book from a library written by a famous dead communist then making a public statement like this is just a bad idea and I don't care whose right it is.
For what its worth the student involved in the matter admitted it was a hoax[^]. James
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code-frog wrote:
If you can get a visit for checking out a book from a library written by a famous dead communist then making a public statement like this is just a bad idea and I don't care whose right it is.
For what its worth the student involved in the matter admitted it was a hoax[^]. James
I'd say that's worth quite a bit. Thank you! Fortunately that wraps up my part in the whole darned thing. Say whatever you want to whoever you want and however you want. I'm going to go torture my children. :laugh:
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Well after seeing this http://www.boston.com/news/education/higher/articles/2005/12/24/students_tall_tale_revealed/[^] forget about what I said. Guess I'm worried about nothing.
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Well after seeing this http://www.boston.com/news/education/higher/articles/2005/12/24/students_tall_tale_revealed/[^] forget about what I said. Guess I'm worried about nothing.
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Did you read the article? Or even the URL? "Students Tall Tale Revealed"? The whole thing was a hoax.
Yeah, it was a hoax. That was my whole reason for telling the guy to not say that on a message board and it turned out to be a hoax. I still don't know if I would say something like that to anyone but yup... A hoax. That's why I said my comments were done. The wooden leg I was standing on turned out to be hollow. Oh well...
In a lot of ways I'm really relieved to learn it was a hoax. 1984 is farther away than I thought (closer than I want) but still farther away for now...
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FYI, it was a question, not a statement.
It was a rhetorical question. Since the easy stuff has to be explained to you obviously. :| Jeremy Falcon
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It was a rhetorical question. Since the easy stuff has to be explained to you obviously. :| Jeremy Falcon
I thought it was an excellent reply to Brian's question "The same cold blooded Americans who gave over $500,000,000 in relief for Pakistani's after the earthquake?", if you take the thread's context into consideration. Maybe I'm just another stupid foreigner who should just shut the fuck up?
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I thought it was an excellent reply to Brian's question "The same cold blooded Americans who gave over $500,000,000 in relief for Pakistani's after the earthquake?", if you take the thread's context into consideration. Maybe I'm just another stupid foreigner who should just shut the fuck up?
Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote:
Maybe I'm just another stupid foreigner who should just shut the f*** up?
Yes. :laugh: Jeremy Falcon