The Office: US vs. UK
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What the fuck do you know? Look where you are: the most humorless country in all of ID Creation. You wouldn't know a joke if it came up behind you and, well, you know... :laugh: Okay, Frasier is getting dated but 2 and a half men is VERY funny. Have you seen any of these? If not then kep your crass comments to yourself. The office is shite of the lowest order: I didn't laugh once and I laugh at pretty much anything. I've been shusshed at the theatre when watching a comedy cos I laugh so much. Alf Garnett did not become Cosby: it became "all in the family" (correct that if slightly out) which was shite as well. Cosby is a self-important twat whose best work was as Robert Culps' token black-man 40 odd years ago in a stupid spy program. Ah, the joy of rambling... :laugh:
turning the other cheek just gets you slapped twice
#1 Yeah, turkey brain, but we get UK tv over here, and all the locals watch british comedy because it is so good. #2 2.5 men? I have to admit to completely missing that, but then anything with an american accent makes me feel sick anyway, so i probably couldnt laugh for all the puking. #3 The Office is true situation comedy. #4 Alright, I meant one foot in the grave. Surreal brilliance to sad crap. The US stopped producing good humour after 'car 54 where are you'. Nunc est bibendum
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#1 Yeah, turkey brain, but we get UK tv over here, and all the locals watch british comedy because it is so good. #2 2.5 men? I have to admit to completely missing that, but then anything with an american accent makes me feel sick anyway, so i probably couldnt laugh for all the puking. #3 The Office is true situation comedy. #4 Alright, I meant one foot in the grave. Surreal brilliance to sad crap. The US stopped producing good humour after 'car 54 where are you'. Nunc est bibendum
1: I thought Walloons could only speak crap, not English, from listening to you all day. 2: It is very funny as is Becker, Everybody Loves Raymond and quite a few others. But then you have a small island mentality and belive that only British comedy is good cos it used to be. Well, news flash dork, things change. 3: The office is just not funny. 4: I'll give you that one as nothing with Cosby in is worth watching.
fat_boy wrote:
The US stopped producing good humour after 'car 54 where are you'.
This is simply not the case: most of the programs mentioned above display elements of irony, sarcasm and the dry wit for which we were always best known and whilst Frasier did descend into farce from time-to-time it was funny. I hate to mention 'Friends' but even that was amusing.
turning the other cheek just gets you bitch-slapped twice
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I thought you understood the Goon Show, my mistake...
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1: I thought Walloons could only speak crap, not English, from listening to you all day. 2: It is very funny as is Becker, Everybody Loves Raymond and quite a few others. But then you have a small island mentality and belive that only British comedy is good cos it used to be. Well, news flash dork, things change. 3: The office is just not funny. 4: I'll give you that one as nothing with Cosby in is worth watching.
fat_boy wrote:
The US stopped producing good humour after 'car 54 where are you'.
This is simply not the case: most of the programs mentioned above display elements of irony, sarcasm and the dry wit for which we were always best known and whilst Frasier did descend into farce from time-to-time it was funny. I hate to mention 'Friends' but even that was amusing.
turning the other cheek just gets you bitch-slapped twice
#1 Its the flems who love the UK comedy. I guess the waloons watch french comedy as they can only speak french. (And french conmedy is, what, like circuis comedy, old fashioned and obvious) #2 If anyone has in island mentality it is the monoculture that the US is. The UK has the least Island mentality of any country in Europe. Look at the amount of US crap we get on our TV, and Australian, stuff (which is often vewry funny too) #3 Wrong, wrong, wrong. FRIENDS! OH MY GOD, WHAT A PILE OF FORMULAIC CRAP! Have you seen the early Red Dwarf? Now that is just outstanding comedy. The anti gravity forks and spagehtti routine was sublime. And the whole conecpt of a cat that evolves, into the creature played by dany whatshisname is brilliant! Nunc est bibendum
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#1 Its the flems who love the UK comedy. I guess the waloons watch french comedy as they can only speak french. (And french conmedy is, what, like circuis comedy, old fashioned and obvious) #2 If anyone has in island mentality it is the monoculture that the US is. The UK has the least Island mentality of any country in Europe. Look at the amount of US crap we get on our TV, and Australian, stuff (which is often vewry funny too) #3 Wrong, wrong, wrong. FRIENDS! OH MY GOD, WHAT A PILE OF FORMULAIC CRAP! Have you seen the early Red Dwarf? Now that is just outstanding comedy. The anti gravity forks and spagehtti routine was sublime. And the whole conecpt of a cat that evolves, into the creature played by dany whatshisname is brilliant! Nunc est bibendum
Least island mentality? Au contraire. I said that I hate to mention it. Duh! Red dwarf was ok. (he said grudgingly) I still laugh at Fawlty Towers: the car beating scene still makes me cry.
turning the other cheek just gets you slapped twice
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:-D 35... So what? I still watch black and white films and Ealing comedies, why not listen to the Goons?
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Least island mentality? Au contraire. I said that I hate to mention it. Duh! Red dwarf was ok. (he said grudgingly) I still laugh at Fawlty Towers: the car beating scene still makes me cry.
turning the other cheek just gets you slapped twice
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:-D 35... So what? I still watch black and white films and Ealing comedies, why not listen to the Goons?
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It is a matter of difference in taste. The U.S. version made me laugh a few times but the U.K. version has me rolling in the aisles. Which is exactly why they made a U.S. version and didn't simply re-broadcast the U.K. version. Just out of curiosity do you find Frasier funny? regards, Paul Watson Ireland Colib and ilikecameras. K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!
Paul said; "Just out of curiosity do you find Frasier funny?" About as funny as having my teeth drilled! I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopes
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Paul said; "Just out of curiosity do you find Frasier funny?" About as funny as having my teeth drilled! I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopes
Hey, with the right amount of laughing gas that could be a compliment. I really enjoy Frasier though. It is not one for huge laugh-out-loud moments but it is clever and avoids a lot of the usual U.S. slapstick which I dislike. Plus it is quite theatrical, lots of "stage craft." regards, Paul Watson Ireland Colib and ilikecameras. K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!
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legalAlien wrote:
the car beating scene
The sheer impotence of male fury in the modern world! Nunc est bibendum
It's fun watching you two have a circle-jerk. regards, Paul Watson Ireland Colib and ilikecameras. K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!
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OK, I can see an Ealing c omedy being put on the telly, but where the hell do you see the goons these days? Nunc est bibendum
BBC7, every Monday!
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I :love: the US version of The Office, and have read the praise that the original UK version gets. I got the UK version today (12 eps, 2 seasons I guess?), and after watching the first 6, I just don't get it. There are maybe 3 or 4 laughs in each show; the rest of the time it's David being dumb, not funny. At least when Michael Scott cooks his foot, they build the entire show's humour around it. Not to mention that Tim/Dawn have nowhere near the on-screen chemistry that Jim/Pam do. --Mike-- Visual C++ MVP :cool: LINKS~! Ericahist | NEW!! PimpFish | CP SearchBar v3.0 | C++ Forum FAQ Come quietly or there will be... trouble.
I find both hopelessly dull, though like most shows there are a few funny moments in isolation (which they then use for the commercials.) (For a mockumentary about an office, I found nothing funnier than "The Games", an Australian comedy about the run-up to the 2000 Sydney Olympic games: http://www.abc.net.au/thegames/[^]) Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke
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Hey, with the right amount of laughing gas that could be a compliment. I really enjoy Frasier though. It is not one for huge laugh-out-loud moments but it is clever and avoids a lot of the usual U.S. slapstick which I dislike. Plus it is quite theatrical, lots of "stage craft." regards, Paul Watson Ireland Colib and ilikecameras. K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!
Kelsey has his moments, but I am not a real TV series fan. I lived on a boat for approximately 10 years before I moved to SE Asia and when I retrieved my TV from storage (12 inch screen) I realized it didn't even have a remote control. Needless to say no one wanted to buy it. It was even difficult to give away. I guess that is why I do not miss English speaking TV these days. I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopes
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Kelsey has his moments, but I am not a real TV series fan. I lived on a boat for approximately 10 years before I moved to SE Asia and when I retrieved my TV from storage (12 inch screen) I realized it didn't even have a remote control. Needless to say no one wanted to buy it. It was even difficult to give away. I guess that is why I do not miss English speaking TV these days. I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopes
JimmyRopes wrote:
I guess that is why I do not miss English speaking TV these days.
And non-English speaking TV? And come to think of it I have never owned my own TV. My dad would tape our favourite shows and then once a week I'd visit and we'd have dinner together and watch them. Here in Ireland my flatmates have a TV and it is often on when I sit in the lounge but there is very little to watch. The only TV shows I have had of late are 24 and Battlestar Galactica DVDs. Though I do try and catch TopGear on Sundays, now that is comedy. regards, Paul Watson Ireland Colib and ilikecameras. K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!
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BBC7, every Monday!
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JimmyRopes wrote:
I guess that is why I do not miss English speaking TV these days.
And non-English speaking TV? And come to think of it I have never owned my own TV. My dad would tape our favourite shows and then once a week I'd visit and we'd have dinner together and watch them. Here in Ireland my flatmates have a TV and it is often on when I sit in the lounge but there is very little to watch. The only TV shows I have had of late are 24 and Battlestar Galactica DVDs. Though I do try and catch TopGear on Sundays, now that is comedy. regards, Paul Watson Ireland Colib and ilikecameras. K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!
24 and Battle Star Glactica??? I am so far out of the mainstream that I don't even know what they are. I can surmise that Battlestar is a takeoff on Star Trek but I haven't a clew as to what 24 might be about! I don’t get to see anything but Thai, Kampuchean (Cambodian), Japanese and Chinese TV these days. The cultural divide is larger than you can probably imagine. Let’s just say that the popular Thai, Japanese and Kampuchean game and variety shows remind me of TV in the US in the 1950s and 1960s. The Chinese shows are so culturally different I can’t place them in time, at least not compared to anything I remember. I should probably look for some NOx. It would probably enhance my viewing experience. I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopes
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24 and Battle Star Glactica??? I am so far out of the mainstream that I don't even know what they are. I can surmise that Battlestar is a takeoff on Star Trek but I haven't a clew as to what 24 might be about! I don’t get to see anything but Thai, Kampuchean (Cambodian), Japanese and Chinese TV these days. The cultural divide is larger than you can probably imagine. Let’s just say that the popular Thai, Japanese and Kampuchean game and variety shows remind me of TV in the US in the 1950s and 1960s. The Chinese shows are so culturally different I can’t place them in time, at least not compared to anything I remember. I should probably look for some NOx. It would probably enhance my viewing experience. I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopes
Yeah I was wondering if you found Thai/Kampuchean/Japense/Chinese T.V. favourable. When I think of Japense T.V. I am reminded of some scense from Lost in Translation. Bit mad eh. regards, Paul Watson Ireland Colib and ilikecameras. K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!
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Yeah I was wondering if you found Thai/Kampuchean/Japense/Chinese T.V. favourable. When I think of Japense T.V. I am reminded of some scense from Lost in Translation. Bit mad eh. regards, Paul Watson Ireland Colib and ilikecameras. K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!
I did actually see Lost in Translation when we had satellite network TV a while back. We discontinued it because there wasn’t enough content to justify the cost. The children liked the cartoon shows and animal planet but the cost was prohibitive. Yes, it is quite different here. TV seems, to me, to be a lot more innocent. I don’t know if innocent is the best way to describe it but I guess it reminds me of more innocent days in the West. At least less complicated. I live up-country so the people here are not that influenced by the West. They still very much believe in the spirit world [ancient animist beliefs] and are resistant to modern culture. We have two spirit houses in our front yard; one for our ancestors and one for any other spirits that happen by and need a place to stay. These traditions pre-date Buddhism [we are currently in the year 2549 BE (Buddhist Era)] but remain alive today in the daily lives of the folks here. Yes, things do get lost in translation. We are just looking at things from two completely different perspectives. I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopes
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I did actually see Lost in Translation when we had satellite network TV a while back. We discontinued it because there wasn’t enough content to justify the cost. The children liked the cartoon shows and animal planet but the cost was prohibitive. Yes, it is quite different here. TV seems, to me, to be a lot more innocent. I don’t know if innocent is the best way to describe it but I guess it reminds me of more innocent days in the West. At least less complicated. I live up-country so the people here are not that influenced by the West. They still very much believe in the spirit world [ancient animist beliefs] and are resistant to modern culture. We have two spirit houses in our front yard; one for our ancestors and one for any other spirits that happen by and need a place to stay. These traditions pre-date Buddhism [we are currently in the year 2549 BE (Buddhist Era)] but remain alive today in the daily lives of the folks here. Yes, things do get lost in translation. We are just looking at things from two completely different perspectives. I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopes
Thank you for the insight, Jimmy. I am not wholly confident in the West's ways, we need to sway back to a middle line, away from this extreme path we are on. regards, Paul Watson Ireland Colib and ilikecameras. K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!