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    malharone
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    I just received an invite for the Live Mail. I must say I'm really impressed with the interface -- which looks very much like Outlook Web Access. It also uses asycn updates (ajax). The interface is more sophisticated looking than (cough-cough Gmail, Yahoo mail -- I do have both accounts and so my comparison is fair). I tried it on using both LAN and 56kbps and did not notice a significant delay. The ads are not (yet) context based. But they do waste screenspace on both top and right side of the screen with ads. They've also bumped up the storage space to 2 GB. I heard rumors that they may start charging anual subcriptions for these services. I wouldn't mind the $20/year to continue using something I've used for free for the past 5-6 years. - Malhar

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      I just received an invite for the Live Mail. I must say I'm really impressed with the interface -- which looks very much like Outlook Web Access. It also uses asycn updates (ajax). The interface is more sophisticated looking than (cough-cough Gmail, Yahoo mail -- I do have both accounts and so my comparison is fair). I tried it on using both LAN and 56kbps and did not notice a significant delay. The ads are not (yet) context based. But they do waste screenspace on both top and right side of the screen with ads. They've also bumped up the storage space to 2 GB. I heard rumors that they may start charging anual subcriptions for these services. I wouldn't mind the $20/year to continue using something I've used for free for the past 5-6 years. - Malhar

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      Nish Nishant
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      I've been trying to get one for a while now :-( Regards, Nish

      My blog : Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET

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        I just received an invite for the Live Mail. I must say I'm really impressed with the interface -- which looks very much like Outlook Web Access. It also uses asycn updates (ajax). The interface is more sophisticated looking than (cough-cough Gmail, Yahoo mail -- I do have both accounts and so my comparison is fair). I tried it on using both LAN and 56kbps and did not notice a significant delay. The ads are not (yet) context based. But they do waste screenspace on both top and right side of the screen with ads. They've also bumped up the storage space to 2 GB. I heard rumors that they may start charging anual subcriptions for these services. I wouldn't mind the $20/year to continue using something I've used for free for the past 5-6 years. - Malhar

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        Rama Krishna Vavilala
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        I observed that I also got one. I don't check my hotmail often. The best thing about is the online spell checker.

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          I just received an invite for the Live Mail. I must say I'm really impressed with the interface -- which looks very much like Outlook Web Access. It also uses asycn updates (ajax). The interface is more sophisticated looking than (cough-cough Gmail, Yahoo mail -- I do have both accounts and so my comparison is fair). I tried it on using both LAN and 56kbps and did not notice a significant delay. The ads are not (yet) context based. But they do waste screenspace on both top and right side of the screen with ads. They've also bumped up the storage space to 2 GB. I heard rumors that they may start charging anual subcriptions for these services. I wouldn't mind the $20/year to continue using something I've used for free for the past 5-6 years. - Malhar

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          Charlie Williams
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          I got the invitation this morning, too. I like it so far. Charlie if(!curlies){ return; }

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            I observed that I also got one. I don't check my hotmail often. The best thing about is the online spell checker.

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            Nish Nishant
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            Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

            I observed that I also got one. I don't check my hotmail often. The best thing about is the online spell checker.

            You mean, you got one, without even asking for one? Damn! Regards, Nish

            My blog : Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET

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              Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

              I observed that I also got one. I don't check my hotmail often. The best thing about is the online spell checker.

              You mean, you got one, without even asking for one? Damn! Regards, Nish

              My blog : Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET

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              Rama Krishna Vavilala
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              Actullly I signed up for it at http://ideas.live.com[^]

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                I just received an invite for the Live Mail. I must say I'm really impressed with the interface -- which looks very much like Outlook Web Access. It also uses asycn updates (ajax). The interface is more sophisticated looking than (cough-cough Gmail, Yahoo mail -- I do have both accounts and so my comparison is fair). I tried it on using both LAN and 56kbps and did not notice a significant delay. The ads are not (yet) context based. But they do waste screenspace on both top and right side of the screen with ads. They've also bumped up the storage space to 2 GB. I heard rumors that they may start charging anual subcriptions for these services. I wouldn't mind the $20/year to continue using something I've used for free for the past 5-6 years. - Malhar

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                Paul Watson
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                Are you comparing Live Mail with the Yahoo! Mail beta? regards, Paul Watson Ireland Colib and ilikecameras. K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!

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                  Actullly I signed up for it at http://ideas.live.com[^]

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                  Nish Nishant
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                  Ah ok. Regards, Nish

                  My blog : Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET

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                  • M malharone

                    I just received an invite for the Live Mail. I must say I'm really impressed with the interface -- which looks very much like Outlook Web Access. It also uses asycn updates (ajax). The interface is more sophisticated looking than (cough-cough Gmail, Yahoo mail -- I do have both accounts and so my comparison is fair). I tried it on using both LAN and 56kbps and did not notice a significant delay. The ads are not (yet) context based. But they do waste screenspace on both top and right side of the screen with ads. They've also bumped up the storage space to 2 GB. I heard rumors that they may start charging anual subcriptions for these services. I wouldn't mind the $20/year to continue using something I've used for free for the past 5-6 years. - Malhar

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                    Kevin McFarlane
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                    I received an invite but how do you get into it? All the links I try just say I've been invited and we'll notify you when you can join. :confused: Kevin

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                      Are you comparing Live Mail with the Yahoo! Mail beta? regards, Paul Watson Ireland Colib and ilikecameras. K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!

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                      malharone
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                      Paul Watson wrote:

                      Yahoo! Mail beta?

                      I did sign-up for it but did not get any invitations yet. As far as I understand it, the new yahoo mail lets you create a) your "Avatar" -- a cartoon of "you", b) the dot aliases. I'm not that fascinated by these features. But I did like the beta Yahoo Maps: Beta Yahoo Maps[^] - Malhar

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                        I received an invite but how do you get into it? All the links I try just say I've been invited and we'll notify you when you can join. :confused: Kevin

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                        I simply accepted their invitation by clicking the link, and now everytime I open Hotmail, it redirects me to the newer interface. - Malhar

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                          Paul Watson wrote:

                          Yahoo! Mail beta?

                          I did sign-up for it but did not get any invitations yet. As far as I understand it, the new yahoo mail lets you create a) your "Avatar" -- a cartoon of "you", b) the dot aliases. I'm not that fascinated by these features. But I did like the beta Yahoo Maps: Beta Yahoo Maps[^] - Malhar

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                          No, the Yahoo! Mail beta includes an ajax powered interface which is said to be as good if not better than the Live Mail one. There is a "review" here. Live Mail and Yahoo! Mail are going head to head in the UI race. I just want to give them a spin from a web-dev point of view. Not a chance I'm going to use a @yahoo.com or @hotmail/@livemail.com address. regards, Paul Watson Ireland Colib and ilikecameras. K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!

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                            I simply accepted their invitation by clicking the link, and now everytime I open Hotmail, it redirects me to the newer interface. - Malhar

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                            Kevin McFarlane
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                            OK. Got in now. My mistake was clicking on the link from inside Outlook Express instead of from IE, which took me round in circles. Kevin

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                              No, the Yahoo! Mail beta includes an ajax powered interface which is said to be as good if not better than the Live Mail one. There is a "review" here. Live Mail and Yahoo! Mail are going head to head in the UI race. I just want to give them a spin from a web-dev point of view. Not a chance I'm going to use a @yahoo.com or @hotmail/@livemail.com address. regards, Paul Watson Ireland Colib and ilikecameras. K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!

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                              Rama Krishna Vavilala
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                              Paul Watson wrote:

                              I just want to give them a spin from a web-dev point of view

                              That's why I also got interested. Specifically, I wanted to see how the live spell checker worked. From what I have seen Yahoo mail beta currently works both in FireFox and IE, live mail works only in IE.

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                                I just received an invite for the Live Mail. I must say I'm really impressed with the interface -- which looks very much like Outlook Web Access. It also uses asycn updates (ajax). The interface is more sophisticated looking than (cough-cough Gmail, Yahoo mail -- I do have both accounts and so my comparison is fair). I tried it on using both LAN and 56kbps and did not notice a significant delay. The ads are not (yet) context based. But they do waste screenspace on both top and right side of the screen with ads. They've also bumped up the storage space to 2 GB. I heard rumors that they may start charging anual subcriptions for these services. I wouldn't mind the $20/year to continue using something I've used for free for the past 5-6 years. - Malhar

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                                Kevin McFarlane
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                                malharone wrote:

                                The interface is more sophisticated looking than (cough-cough Gmail, Yahoo mail -- I do have both accounts and so my comparison is fair).

                                I too have all three accounts. I gather that both Google and Yahoo have similar Ajax versions in development. Kevin

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                                  malharone wrote:

                                  The interface is more sophisticated looking than (cough-cough Gmail, Yahoo mail -- I do have both accounts and so my comparison is fair).

                                  I too have all three accounts. I gather that both Google and Yahoo have similar Ajax versions in development. Kevin

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                                  Google's is already ajax and kicked this all off. It also isn't aiming to simply be a web based mimic of desktop email clients. So don't expect to see a GMail that works or looks like Live Mail or the Yahoo! Mail beta. regards, Paul Watson Ireland Colib and ilikecameras. K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!

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                                    Google's is already ajax and kicked this all off. It also isn't aiming to simply be a web based mimic of desktop email clients. So don't expect to see a GMail that works or looks like Live Mail or the Yahoo! Mail beta. regards, Paul Watson Ireland Colib and ilikecameras. K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!

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                                    Kevin McFarlane
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                                    Paul Watson wrote:

                                    Google's is already ajax and kicked this all off.

                                    It doesn't look like Ajax to me. I had the impression that there was a more dynamic version in the pipeline. Kevin

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                                      Paul Watson wrote:

                                      Google's is already ajax and kicked this all off.

                                      It doesn't look like Ajax to me. I had the impression that there was a more dynamic version in the pipeline. Kevin

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                                      GMail kicked off the AJAX movement. GMail did it when AJAX had not been coined yet and was simply known to a few as XmlHttpRequest. Everything about the GMail interface is AJAX. I think it is because GMail is not a desktop-email-client clone that people think it is inferior to Live Mail and co. GMail specifically set out not to copy traditional email interfaces and find new ways of managing email. You can thank GMail for all the AJAX* interest. Jesse James coined it but GMail defined it. regards, Paul Watson Ireland Colib and ilikecameras. K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!

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                                        GMail kicked off the AJAX movement. GMail did it when AJAX had not been coined yet and was simply known to a few as XmlHttpRequest. Everything about the GMail interface is AJAX. I think it is because GMail is not a desktop-email-client clone that people think it is inferior to Live Mail and co. GMail specifically set out not to copy traditional email interfaces and find new ways of managing email. You can thank GMail for all the AJAX* interest. Jesse James coined it but GMail defined it. regards, Paul Watson Ireland Colib and ilikecameras. K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!

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                                        Kevin McFarlane
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                                        Well, I understand that stuff like Google Maps is Ajax but GMail doesn't seem that "dynamic," e.g., no drag and drop (or is there?). That's why I thought it wasn't Ajax. I don't consider it inferior to Live Mail, just different. Kevin

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                                          Well, I understand that stuff like Google Maps is Ajax but GMail doesn't seem that "dynamic," e.g., no drag and drop (or is there?). That's why I thought it wasn't Ajax. I don't consider it inferior to Live Mail, just different. Kevin

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                                          Yeah, Ajax isn't just about cool UI tricks. Drag and drop etc. is all just good old DHTML at work. Where Ajax comes in is the use of the XmlHttpRequest object to communicate between the interface and the server without refreshing the entire page. It is a whole lot more too but that is the core of it. You can read Jesse Jame's piece that coined the term Ajax.[^] regards, Paul Watson Ireland Colib and ilikecameras. K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!

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