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    Chintoo723
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    http://www.windowsitpro.com/Articles/Index.cfm?ArticleID=20621[^] Any idea why WPA is not applicable to corporate volume licenses? thanks!

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      http://www.windowsitpro.com/Articles/Index.cfm?ArticleID=20621[^] Any idea why WPA is not applicable to corporate volume licenses? thanks!

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      code frog 0
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      That would mean that every corporation has to install it seperately on all their machines. That would suck. Instead they build an image server and image ten or 1000 machines at a time. But if their VLK gets loose they get fines and lots of trouble occurs. It comes with a lot of responsibility though. They usually give the role of delegating key permissions to some 300 pound woman that could tear your heart out, and eat you whole. So the keys are well protected at that. If there are no 300 pound women present I think they then must store them in the collar of a military trained attack dog that only eats raw whoppers from Burger King (which in all reality are probably safer for you than anything cooked from the same establishment).:laugh:

      I only read CP for the articles. Code-frog System Architects, Inc.

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        That would mean that every corporation has to install it seperately on all their machines. That would suck. Instead they build an image server and image ten or 1000 machines at a time. But if their VLK gets loose they get fines and lots of trouble occurs. It comes with a lot of responsibility though. They usually give the role of delegating key permissions to some 300 pound woman that could tear your heart out, and eat you whole. So the keys are well protected at that. If there are no 300 pound women present I think they then must store them in the collar of a military trained attack dog that only eats raw whoppers from Burger King (which in all reality are probably safer for you than anything cooked from the same establishment).:laugh:

        I only read CP for the articles. Code-frog System Architects, Inc.

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        Ok. What is the difference between Activation and Registration? Why is registration optional? thanks!

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          Ok. What is the difference between Activation and Registration? Why is registration optional? thanks!

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          Activation is Microsoft making sure that only one person is using each legal copy of Windows, and has no personal information. Registration is optional, and is telling Microsoft WHO is using Windows and what for - all the personal stuff. Microsoft really don't care who is using their software, as long as they are using it legally.

          Ryan

          "Punctuality is only a virtue for those who aren't smart enough to think of good excuses for being late" John Nichol "Point Of Impact"

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            Ok. What is the difference between Activation and Registration? Why is registration optional? thanks!

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            Activation binds the copy of the software to the current hardware, to avoid piracy. Registration binds you (person or company) to the serial number of the software copy, to activate additional goodies such as - support (which you don't get for SB/OEM versions), - receiving e-mails when there are new fine products you are invited to consider buying immediately, - being figured out as the distribution source should your copy leak to the copying public. (AFAIK your proof of ownership is still the Certificate of Authenticity)


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              Activation is Microsoft making sure that only one person is using each legal copy of Windows, and has no personal information. Registration is optional, and is telling Microsoft WHO is using Windows and what for - all the personal stuff. Microsoft really don't care who is using their software, as long as they are using it legally.

              Ryan

              "Punctuality is only a virtue for those who aren't smart enough to think of good excuses for being late" John Nichol "Point Of Impact"

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              Ryan Binns wrote:

              Microsoft really don't care who is using their software, as long as they are using it legally.

              Oh, they care very much, it is golden data, but the problem is they cannot force it out of you. Hence it being optional. regards, Paul Watson Ireland Feed Henry! K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!

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                Ryan Binns wrote:

                Microsoft really don't care who is using their software, as long as they are using it legally.

                Oh, they care very much, it is golden data, but the problem is they cannot force it out of you. Hence it being optional. regards, Paul Watson Ireland Feed Henry! K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!

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                Paul Watson wrote:

                Oh, they care very much, it is golden data

                Oh yeah. Of course. The marketing trolls.

                Ryan

                "Punctuality is only a virtue for those who aren't smart enough to think of good excuses for being late" John Nichol "Point Of Impact"

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                  Paul Watson wrote:

                  Oh, they care very much, it is golden data

                  Oh yeah. Of course. The marketing trolls.

                  Ryan

                  "Punctuality is only a virtue for those who aren't smart enough to think of good excuses for being late" John Nichol "Point Of Impact"

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                  Actually as a developer I would love to know the detailed demographics of my app users. I can then better tailor it to who actually uses it rather than just who I think uses it. regards, Paul Watson Ireland Feed Henry! K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!

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                    Activation binds the copy of the software to the current hardware, to avoid piracy. Registration binds you (person or company) to the serial number of the software copy, to activate additional goodies such as - support (which you don't get for SB/OEM versions), - receiving e-mails when there are new fine products you are invited to consider buying immediately, - being figured out as the distribution source should your copy leak to the copying public. (AFAIK your proof of ownership is still the Certificate of Authenticity)


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                    peterchen wrote:

                    Activation binds the copy of the software to the current hardware, to avoid piracy.

                    This is what is not clear to me how this thing works. I have a few questions: - what constitutes the hardware? - what if I change my hardware after a couple of years - Does activation require internet connection? As I have seen it doesnt, how then does MS prevent someone from using the same software on a different machine?

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                    being figured out as the distribution source should your copy leak to the copying public.

                    Interesting. How about reaching the public who copied, and just did an activation but not registration? thanks!

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                      peterchen wrote:

                      Activation binds the copy of the software to the current hardware, to avoid piracy.

                      This is what is not clear to me how this thing works. I have a few questions: - what constitutes the hardware? - what if I change my hardware after a couple of years - Does activation require internet connection? As I have seen it doesnt, how then does MS prevent someone from using the same software on a different machine?

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                      being figured out as the distribution source should your copy leak to the copying public.

                      Interesting. How about reaching the public who copied, and just did an activation but not registration? thanks!

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                      Chintoo723 wrote:

                      - what constitutes the hardware?

                      It's a combination of stats about your machine - the type/speed of your CPU and your motherboard seem to be the main ones - I've added memory and drives to machines without it requiring a change

                      Chintoo723 wrote:

                      - what if I change my hardware after a couple of years

                      See above, minor upgrades don't matter, but if you replace your motherboard you'll need to phone up and talk to somebody, who'll give you a reactivation code. My brother had to do this a couple of times, as he had an uncanny skill of burning out motherboards!

                      Chintoo723 wrote:

                      - Does activation require internet connection? As I have seen it doesnt, how then does MS prevent someone from using the same software on a different machine?

                      I had to do this as I set up an XP machine before my internet was active. Basically the activation app pops up and gives you a special code and a phone number to ring. You dial the number, enter the code, and get given another code to type back into the app. (This was all automated, I didn't speak to a person at all) The code you enter would be a combination of your hardware details and the serial number of your copy of windows, so if somebody else phones up, the computer will check its database and see that somebody has already activated that copy. At that point I presume you'd get passed on to a real person, so they can check if you're the same person who activated before, or somebody trying to copy it (although I have no idea how they'd know the difference) -- Help me! I'm turning into a grapefruit! Buzzwords!

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