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No, I disagree with giving them an ass-kicking. regards, Paul Watson Ireland Feed Henry! K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!
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Paul Watson wrote:
I disagree with giving them an ass-kicking.
I suppose that all depends on the circumstances, but just the same - it's likely they would understand it if you did. ;) Better to live one day as a lion than a hundred years as a sheep.
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Paul Watson wrote:
OK. I disagree but thanks for the explanation.
So... is it your opinion that everyone CAN be reasoned with??!! :confused: Better to live one day as a lion than a hundred years as a sheep.
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Alvaro Mendez wrote:
The catch phrase is "reasoned with". What happens when two people don't agree on what's "reasonable"?
Somebody's probably going to get an asskicking. My mom told me once that "while we all don't speak the same language, everyone in the world undestands an asskicking" -- modified at 16:19 Monday 6th February, 2006
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Mike Mullikin wrote:
Better to live one day as a lion than a hundred years as a sheep.
I actually like your sig better. Who said it? My mom told me once that "while we all don't speak the same language, everyone in the world undestands an asskicking"
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Alvaro Mendez wrote:
What happens when two people don't agree on what's "reasonable"?
Depends on the circumstances... in most cases you agree to disagree and move on. But if one (or both) of the people in question are violent or if the stakes are high enough - it's gonna get ugly. Better to live one day as a lion than a hundred years as a sheep.
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What would you do if a man is fighting you and will not respond to reason? My mom told me once that "while we all don't speak the same language, everyone in the world undestands an asskicking"
It is your use of the phrase "ass-kicking", kgaddy. It has no chance of reform, it is simply vengeance. Violent and ugly. You don't even want it to reform, you just want to lay some hurt on someone. An "ass-kicking" isn't defense, it isn't prevention, it is simple thuggery. An ass-kicking doesn't give reason a chance. You just want to ass-kick someone and feel better. You, with your ass-kickings, shout "Yippee-ki-yay, motherfucker!" as you give it. It is easier to give an ass-kicking than reason. An "ass-kicking" is Old Testament, nothing learned from the New Testament. I am not a pacifist but I am pained at any force that has to be handed out. Sometimes it has to be, but an ass-kicking is never needed. All an ass-kicking does is breed hatred in the one whose arse has been kicked. Humilation never reformed or reasoned anything with anybody. Sons watch their fathers fall down from your ass-kicking and then they sharpen their swords patiently until they have grown up and can take revenge, to give you an ass-kicking back. Your children and my children will suffer for your lack of compassion. Your crass, brutal, make-life-easier-for-me style. Thoughtless. Your ass-kickings. regards, Paul Watson Ireland Feed Henry! K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!
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kgaddy wrote:
I actually like your sig better. Who said it?
It's an old Italian proverb. Better to live one day as a lion than a hundred years as a sheep.
What kind of lion do you think it represents? The old, wounded, violent lion who still has bite or the king of the jungle in his prime; wise, magnanimous, fair but firm. regards, Paul Watson Ireland Feed Henry! K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!
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What would you do if a man is fighting you and will not respond to reason? My mom told me once that "while we all don't speak the same language, everyone in the world undestands an asskicking"
I, for my part, would defend myself. But I would not attack them just because they are threatening me. Cheers, Sebastian -- Contra vim mortem non est medicamen in hortem.
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It is your use of the phrase "ass-kicking", kgaddy. It has no chance of reform, it is simply vengeance. Violent and ugly. You don't even want it to reform, you just want to lay some hurt on someone. An "ass-kicking" isn't defense, it isn't prevention, it is simple thuggery. An ass-kicking doesn't give reason a chance. You just want to ass-kick someone and feel better. You, with your ass-kickings, shout "Yippee-ki-yay, motherfucker!" as you give it. It is easier to give an ass-kicking than reason. An "ass-kicking" is Old Testament, nothing learned from the New Testament. I am not a pacifist but I am pained at any force that has to be handed out. Sometimes it has to be, but an ass-kicking is never needed. All an ass-kicking does is breed hatred in the one whose arse has been kicked. Humilation never reformed or reasoned anything with anybody. Sons watch their fathers fall down from your ass-kicking and then they sharpen their swords patiently until they have grown up and can take revenge, to give you an ass-kicking back. Your children and my children will suffer for your lack of compassion. Your crass, brutal, make-life-easier-for-me style. Thoughtless. Your ass-kickings. regards, Paul Watson Ireland Feed Henry! K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!
Paul Watson wrote:
t is your use of the phrase "ass-kicking", kgaddy. It has no chance of reform, it is simply vengeance. Violent and ugly. You don't even want it to reform, you just want to lay some hurt on someone. An "ass-kicking" isn't defense, it isn't prevention, it is simple thuggery. An ass-kicking doesn't give reason a chance. You just want to ass-kick someone and feel better. You, with your ass-kickings, shout "Yippee-ki-yay, motherf***er!" as you give it.
Wait a minute, If someone comes up to me, and want to kick my ass, and I, in turn kick his ass in self defence, I am not justified? I'm not talking about walking around and just kicking strangers' asses. I'm talking about someone treatening me, and when reason does not work, and they come after me. If they get their ass kicked they will think twice about trying it again. What part of this is so hard? Germany got an asskicking because they could not be reasoned with. Look at Germany now, a completly reformed from a Facist state. My mom told me once that "while we all don't speak the same language, everyone in the world undestands an asskicking" -- modified at 17:24 Monday 6th February, 2006
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What kind of lion do you think it represents? The old, wounded, violent lion who still has bite or the king of the jungle in his prime; wise, magnanimous, fair but firm. regards, Paul Watson Ireland Feed Henry! K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!
Personally, I took it as one who lives for what (s)he believes is right, even if it means dying for those beliefs. The sheep being the weak who lives long, but lives in fear of persecution of their beliefs. My mom told me once that "while we all don't speak the same language, everyone in the world undestands an asskicking"
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I, for my part, would defend myself. But I would not attack them just because they are threatening me. Cheers, Sebastian -- Contra vim mortem non est medicamen in hortem.
Sebastian Schneider wrote:
But I would not attack them just because they are threatening me.
People are hijacking planes and crashing them into buildings, blowing up trains and nightclubs, kidnapping and executing civilians, etc... These are not merely threats!!! Better to live one day as a lion than a hundred years as a sheep.
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What kind of lion do you think it represents? The old, wounded, violent lion who still has bite or the king of the jungle in his prime; wise, magnanimous, fair but firm. regards, Paul Watson Ireland Feed Henry! K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!
Paul Watson wrote:
What kind of lion do you think it represents?
IMO the lion represents a leader or a person of action, the sheep represents a mere follower and a person of inaction. No more, no less. Better to live one day as a lion than a hundred years as a sheep.
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What kind of lion do you think it represents? The old, wounded, violent lion who still has bite or the king of the jungle in his prime; wise, magnanimous, fair but firm. regards, Paul Watson Ireland Feed Henry! K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!
Paul Watson wrote:
What kind of lion do you think it represents?
They try to talk like men, the truth is they are frightened confused little children . Not lions or sheep more like rats. Are you gonna bark all, day little doggy. Or are you gonna bite. - Mr Blonde
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kgaddy wrote:
I actually like your sig better. Who said it?
It's an old Italian proverb. Better to live one day as a lion than a hundred years as a sheep.
Mike Mullikin wrote:
It's an old Italian proverb.
Must be really old. "You get that which you tolerate"
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Paul Watson wrote:
What kind of lion do you think it represents?
They try to talk like men, the truth is they are frightened confused little children . Not lions or sheep more like rats. Are you gonna bark all, day little doggy. Or are you gonna bite. - Mr Blonde
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Sebastian Schneider wrote:
But I would not attack them just because they are threatening me.
People are hijacking planes and crashing them into buildings, blowing up trains and nightclubs, kidnapping and executing civilians, etc... These are not merely threats!!! Better to live one day as a lion than a hundred years as a sheep.
I agree that those are not threats. And I have no problem with military actions against those responsible. However, I firmly believe that one innocent bystander killed is one too many. That is, because they did not choose to take a risk, but the risk was put on them. If there is someone who says "I will lure them out and you can blow me up along with them", that is his choice. Decisions like that are noble and deserve to be accepted. If, however, there is an innocent civilian in a bus of terrorists, blowing the bus up will, IMHO, not result in a "collateral loss", but cold-blooded murder. Even if Bin Laden was in there, it wouldn't change a darn thing. That, however, is my opinion. And as things are, democracies cannot respect the opinion of every single citizen. I accept that, but it will never change my feelings. Cheers, Sebastian -- Contra vim mortem non est medicamen in hortem.
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Have my mom give him an asskicking. :) Chris Meech I am Canadian. [heard in a local bar] When I want privacy, I'll close the bathroom door. [Stan Shannon] BAD DAY FOR: Friendly competition, as Ford Motor Co. declared the employee parking lot at its truck plant in Dearborn, Mich., off limits to vehicles built by rival companies. Workers have to drive a Ford to work, or park across the street. [CNNMoney.com] Nice sig! [Tim Deveaux on Matt Newman's sig with a quote from me]
Chris Meech wrote:
Have my mom give him an asskicking.
LMAO!!! Jeremy Falcon
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I agree that those are not threats. And I have no problem with military actions against those responsible. However, I firmly believe that one innocent bystander killed is one too many. That is, because they did not choose to take a risk, but the risk was put on them. If there is someone who says "I will lure them out and you can blow me up along with them", that is his choice. Decisions like that are noble and deserve to be accepted. If, however, there is an innocent civilian in a bus of terrorists, blowing the bus up will, IMHO, not result in a "collateral loss", but cold-blooded murder. Even if Bin Laden was in there, it wouldn't change a darn thing. That, however, is my opinion. And as things are, democracies cannot respect the opinion of every single citizen. I accept that, but it will never change my feelings. Cheers, Sebastian -- Contra vim mortem non est medicamen in hortem.
Sebastian Schneider wrote:
I firmly believe that one innocent bystander killed is one too many.
Noble but not too realistic. Would you trade one innocent life to save thousands of innocent lives? When is there enough proof of such a predicament? These are the hard questions that our governments, security agencies and military deal with everyday. Better to live one day as a lion than a hundred years as a sheep. -- modified at 22:47 Monday 6th February, 2006
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Paul Watson wrote:
What kind of lion do you think it represents?
They try to talk like men, the truth is they are frightened confused little children . Not lions or sheep more like rats. Are you gonna bark all, day little doggy. Or are you gonna bite. - Mr Blonde