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    Julian Goldsmith
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    VC++ 2005 Express can't find any of the Windows headers, and MFC/ATL support does't work. Microsoft didn't even acknowledge that I had emailed them. Can anyone help me? __________________________________________ Let's push Satan

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      VC++ 2005 Express can't find any of the Windows headers, and MFC/ATL support does't work. Microsoft didn't even acknowledge that I had emailed them. Can anyone help me? __________________________________________ Let's push Satan

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      code frog 0
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      Right. It's the express version which means *EXPRESSLY* MFC/ATL is not supported/included useable.:doh:

      I only read CP for the articles. Code-frog System Architects, Inc.

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        VC++ 2005 Express can't find any of the Windows headers, and MFC/ATL support does't work. Microsoft didn't even acknowledge that I had emailed them. Can anyone help me? __________________________________________ Let's push Satan

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        Tom Archer
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        Who did you email? MFC/ATL is not supported on Express. Express is specifically a free compiler for people wanting to learn C++. If you need/want MFC/ATL, you need to purchase the full product. Regarding header files, it sounds like you need the following page: http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/express/visualc/usingpsdk/default.aspx[^] Tom Archer (blog) Program Manager MSDN Online (Windows Vista and Visual C++) MICROSOFT

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          VC++ 2005 Express can't find any of the Windows headers, and MFC/ATL support does't work. Microsoft didn't even acknowledge that I had emailed them. Can anyone help me? __________________________________________ Let's push Satan

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          Jim Crafton
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          If you read the docs right on the express download site, they explain how to do this. http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/express/visualc/usingpsdk/[^] You need to install some form of the Platform SDK (I had an older one from Nov 2001 that worked fine). You need to adjust a few files. It's no big deal. But, like code-frog mentioned, there is no MFC/ATL support - this is openly acknowledged by MS, and it's part of the reason why it's free. If you want a good free UI framework to use with it, may I humbly suggest checking this out: The VCF[^]. ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF!

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            Who did you email? MFC/ATL is not supported on Express. Express is specifically a free compiler for people wanting to learn C++. If you need/want MFC/ATL, you need to purchase the full product. Regarding header files, it sounds like you need the following page: http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/express/visualc/usingpsdk/default.aspx[^] Tom Archer (blog) Program Manager MSDN Online (Windows Vista and Visual C++) MICROSOFT

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            Jim Crafton
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            Damn you beat me to it! :) ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF!

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              Who did you email? MFC/ATL is not supported on Express. Express is specifically a free compiler for people wanting to learn C++. If you need/want MFC/ATL, you need to purchase the full product. Regarding header files, it sounds like you need the following page: http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/express/visualc/usingpsdk/default.aspx[^] Tom Archer (blog) Program Manager MSDN Online (Windows Vista and Visual C++) MICROSOFT

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              Joey Bloggs
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              So how do they learn MFC /ATL :doh:

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                So how do they learn MFC /ATL :doh:

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                Tom Archer
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                How does anyone learn a product that is sold? They download the trial version of the full-featured product. Tom Archer (blog) Program Manager MSDN Online (Windows Vista and Visual C++) MICROSOFT

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                  How does anyone learn a product that is sold? They download the trial version of the full-featured product. Tom Archer (blog) Program Manager MSDN Online (Windows Vista and Visual C++) MICROSOFT

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                  Joey Bloggs
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                  And yet you can build .NET Framework applications with it :^) Seems like a fairly transparent and cynical ploy to me :rolleyes:

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                    And yet you can build .NET Framework applications with it :^) Seems like a fairly transparent and cynical ploy to me :rolleyes:

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                    Judah Gabriel Himango
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                    Is it any secret Microsoft wants developers to build .NET applications? Of course they're pushing their new stuff, what company doesn't?

                    Tech, life, family, faith: Give me a visit. I'm currently blogging about: Connor's Christmas Spectacular! Judah Himango

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                      Is it any secret Microsoft wants developers to build .NET applications? Of course they're pushing their new stuff, what company doesn't?

                      Tech, life, family, faith: Give me a visit. I'm currently blogging about: Connor's Christmas Spectacular! Judah Himango

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                      Tom Archer
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                      Some of these questions/comments today make me feel like I should be donning a "Captain Obvious" cape :) Tom Archer (blog) Program Manager MSDN Online (Windows Vista and Visual C++) MICROSOFT

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                        VC++ 2005 Express can't find any of the Windows headers, and MFC/ATL support does't work. Microsoft didn't even acknowledge that I had emailed them. Can anyone help me? __________________________________________ Let's push Satan

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                        Not sure if this helps but http://www.codeproject.com/wtl/WTLExpress.asp[^] shows you how to set up WTL (which uses ATL) with Express. And I think MS is dropping support for MFC so I don't know if you want to invest too much time learning it...

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                          Some of these questions/comments today make me feel like I should be donning a "Captain Obvious" cape :) Tom Archer (blog) Program Manager MSDN Online (Windows Vista and Visual C++) MICROSOFT

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                          code frog 0
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                          Some people seem to get pissed off that certain companies {insert Microsoft here} are hugely succesful and they feel that because of that success "freebies" galore should abound. I typically find that these individuals are employees of a company and they have to work in a tool other than the latest Microsoft tool. They do not have the funds to buy the tool themselves to play with it at home and since their employer has not upgraded everyone to it they complain. Most of these people also believe in black helicopters that now ironically have a Microsoft logo. What most people fail to understand is if Microsoft were not hugely successful like they are then they probably would be pulling shots of espresso at Pop's Coffee Stand and they'd be pissing and moaning about how expensive good espresso machines are... It's a general mentallity and I guess we all exhibit it from time to time but some people appear to live in it. Hence there does appear to be a need for "Captain Obvious".

                          I only read CP for the articles. Code-frog System Architects, Inc.

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                            And yet you can build .NET Framework applications with it :^) Seems like a fairly transparent and cynical ploy to me :rolleyes:

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                            Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                            Bah. If you really want to learn something, then try hacking up your own MFC/ATL-like toolkit. Of course, you'll never get anywhere near those toolkits (unless you've got lots of time and dedication), but you'll learn loads more than using them. MFC and ATL are great tools (at least ATL is ;P), and are worth paying for.

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                              Not sure if this helps but http://www.codeproject.com/wtl/WTLExpress.asp[^] shows you how to set up WTL (which uses ATL) with Express. And I think MS is dropping support for MFC so I don't know if you want to invest too much time learning it...

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                              Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                              nm_114 wrote:

                              And I think MS is dropping support for MFC so I don't know if you want to invest too much time learning it...

                              That I have a hard time to believe. At least for the near future. There's a lot of MFC code out there, and I think people would go postal on Microsoft if they just trashed it.

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                                If you read the docs right on the express download site, they explain how to do this. http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/express/visualc/usingpsdk/[^] You need to install some form of the Platform SDK (I had an older one from Nov 2001 that worked fine). You need to adjust a few files. It's no big deal. But, like code-frog mentioned, there is no MFC/ATL support - this is openly acknowledged by MS, and it's part of the reason why it's free. If you want a good free UI framework to use with it, may I humbly suggest checking this out: The VCF[^]. ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF!

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                                Tom Archer
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                                Yeah but you got all the 5 votes :sigh: :-D Tom Archer (blog) Program Manager MSDN Online (Windows Vista and Visual C++) MICROSOFT

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                                  Yeah but you got all the 5 votes :sigh: :-D Tom Archer (blog) Program Manager MSDN Online (Windows Vista and Visual C++) MICROSOFT

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                                  Ryan Binns
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                                  There... feel better now? ;)

                                  Ryan

                                  "Punctuality is only a virtue for those who aren't smart enough to think of good excuses for being late" John Nichol "Point Of Impact"

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                                    There... feel better now? ;)

                                    Ryan

                                    "Punctuality is only a virtue for those who aren't smart enough to think of good excuses for being late" John Nichol "Point Of Impact"

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                                    Tom Archer
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                                    Now I can sleep :) Tom Archer (blog) Program Manager MSDN Online (Windows Vista and Visual C++) MICROSOFT

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                                      VC++ 2005 Express can't find any of the Windows headers, and MFC/ATL support does't work. Microsoft didn't even acknowledge that I had emailed them. Can anyone help me? __________________________________________ Let's push Satan

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                                      Nish Nishant
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                                      The Win 2003 Platform SDK contains source code for ATL and MFC (not sure if they are the latest versions though). No libs or DLLs are provided, but I believe there are makefiles that you can use to generate your MFC libs/dlls. It may not be very straightforward, but it's doable, and considering that the PSDK is free, it's a decent option really. Regards, Nish

                                      My blog : Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET

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                                        Is it any secret Microsoft wants developers to build .NET applications? Of course they're pushing their new stuff, what company doesn't?

                                        Tech, life, family, faith: Give me a visit. I'm currently blogging about: Connor's Christmas Spectacular! Judah Himango

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                                        Jerry Hammond
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                                        Judah Himango wrote:

                                        Is it any secret Microsoft wants developers to build .NET applications? Of course they're pushing their new stuff, what company doesn't?

                                        IBM? Which explains why the elephant no longer dances. My Programming Library

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                                          The Win 2003 Platform SDK contains source code for ATL and MFC (not sure if they are the latest versions though). No libs or DLLs are provided, but I believe there are makefiles that you can use to generate your MFC libs/dlls. It may not be very straightforward, but it's doable, and considering that the PSDK is free, it's a decent option really. Regards, Nish

                                          My blog : Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET

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                                          Jim Crafton
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                                          Wow that's pretty weird - so it would be conceivable to "fix" various MFC bugs/features? Could you redistribute the lib? ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF!

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