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    Chris Maunder
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    Using the GridView is like trying to explain to someone else how to move a third person's hands in order to tie your shoelaces for you. Sometimes it's just easier to do it yourself. :sigh: (Yeah, it's been one of those days...) cheers, Chris Maunder

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      Using the GridView is like trying to explain to someone else how to move a third person's hands in order to tie your shoelaces for you. Sometimes it's just easier to do it yourself. :sigh: (Yeah, it's been one of those days...) cheers, Chris Maunder

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      Nish Nishant
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      Grid View Guy's website[^] It's got more stuff than Grid View Girl's website[^], and is also updated more often. And no, from what I found out in my investigations, they are not related, and are not members of the ASP.NET Justice League :-D Regards, Nish


      Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
      The Ultimate Grid - The #1 MFC grid out there!

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        Using the GridView is like trying to explain to someone else how to move a third person's hands in order to tie your shoelaces for you. Sometimes it's just easier to do it yourself. :sigh: (Yeah, it's been one of those days...) cheers, Chris Maunder

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        Andy Brummer
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        Chris Maunder wrote:

        Using the GridView is like trying to explain to someone else how to move a third person's hands in order to tie your shoelaces for you.

        New Sig.  :laugh: Using the GridView is like trying to explain to someone else how to move a third person's hands in order to tie your shoelaces for you. -Chris Maunder

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          Using the GridView is like trying to explain to someone else how to move a third person's hands in order to tie your shoelaces for you. Sometimes it's just easier to do it yourself. :sigh: (Yeah, it's been one of those days...) cheers, Chris Maunder

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          Shog9 0
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          Wow, that sounds familiar. Of course, for me it brings to mind Crystal Reports, and an old version of the Formula One grid control. Both of those were large, feature-heavy components, designed back in the days***** when such monstrosities were written with the aim of allowing coders to quickly integrate large amounts of functionality into a new program, with very little code, and probably using VB. And both suffer from the same problem: as soon as you venture beyond what was envisioned by the designers, you find yourself in a nightmare world of hacks, bizarre method-call sequences and combinations, odd performance issues, and brick walls ten feet thick. Yup, sure will be glad to leave all that behind and move completely into the world of .NET, where all object models are sanely designed and fully documented, and never was easy extensibility sacrificed to meet a deadline... :rolleyes: *****not that those days have gone away or anything...

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            Wow, that sounds familiar. Of course, for me it brings to mind Crystal Reports, and an old version of the Formula One grid control. Both of those were large, feature-heavy components, designed back in the days***** when such monstrosities were written with the aim of allowing coders to quickly integrate large amounts of functionality into a new program, with very little code, and probably using VB. And both suffer from the same problem: as soon as you venture beyond what was envisioned by the designers, you find yourself in a nightmare world of hacks, bizarre method-call sequences and combinations, odd performance issues, and brick walls ten feet thick. Yup, sure will be glad to leave all that behind and move completely into the world of .NET, where all object models are sanely designed and fully documented, and never was easy extensibility sacrificed to meet a deadline... :rolleyes: *****not that those days have gone away or anything...

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            Douglas Troy
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            Shog9 wrote:

            Yup, sure will be glad to leave all that behind and move completely into the world of .NET, where all object models are sanely designed and fully documented, and never was easy extensibility sacrificed to meet a deadline...

            When you're done with them, I was kinda wondering if I could borrow those rose colored sun glasses you've got ... :rolleyes:


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              Shog9 wrote:

              Yup, sure will be glad to leave all that behind and move completely into the world of .NET, where all object models are sanely designed and fully documented, and never was easy extensibility sacrificed to meet a deadline...

              When you're done with them, I was kinda wondering if I could borrow those rose colored sun glasses you've got ... :rolleyes:


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              :laugh:

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              • C Chris Maunder

                Using the GridView is like trying to explain to someone else how to move a third person's hands in order to tie your shoelaces for you. Sometimes it's just easier to do it yourself. :sigh: (Yeah, it's been one of those days...) cheers, Chris Maunder

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                Chris said; "trying to explain to someone else how to move a third person's hands in order to tie your shoelaces for you" [edit] Removed due to insensitivity to cultural, religious, ethnic, politically correct decorum. :-O It simply did not meet the maturity, sensitivity, ethical standards that are to be exhibited on this forum. :rolleyes: [/edit] I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopes -- modified at 1:15 Wednesday 15th February, 2006

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                  Using the GridView is like trying to explain to someone else how to move a third person's hands in order to tie your shoelaces for you. Sometimes it's just easier to do it yourself. :sigh: (Yeah, it's been one of those days...) cheers, Chris Maunder

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                  Albert Pascual
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                  Hate doing this, but reminders me a question I have about DataGrids. On 2.0 you cannot drag and drop a Datagrid, MS kind of forces you to use GridViews, however you can add and will all work well, so ..... this is the question. Does DataGrid in 2.0 is just an implementation of GridView? Or they left the old DataGrid? Cheers Al

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                    Chris said; "trying to explain to someone else how to move a third person's hands in order to tie your shoelaces for you" [edit] Removed due to insensitivity to cultural, religious, ethnic, politically correct decorum. :-O It simply did not meet the maturity, sensitivity, ethical standards that are to be exhibited on this forum. :rolleyes: [/edit] I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopes -- modified at 1:15 Wednesday 15th February, 2006

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                    PJ Arends
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                    Oh, potty jokes. Now the lounge has finally hit the big time!


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                      Grid View Guy's website[^] It's got more stuff than Grid View Girl's website[^], and is also updated more often. And no, from what I found out in my investigations, they are not related, and are not members of the ASP.NET Justice League :-D Regards, Nish


                      Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
                      The Ultimate Grid - The #1 MFC grid out there!

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                      Matt Newman
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                      Personally I like visiting GridViewGirl's website when I am working in my laptop in a public area. Get alot of questions and weird looks :) Matt Newman
                      Even the very best tools in the hands of an idiot will produce something of little or no value. - Chris Meech on Idiots

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                        Oh, potty jokes. Now the lounge has finally hit the big time!


                        "You're obviously a superstar." - Christian Graus about me - 12 Feb '03 "Obviously ???  You're definitely a superstar!!!" - mYkel - 21 Jun '04 "There's not enough blatant self-congratulatory backslapping in the world today..." - HumblePie - 21 Jun '05 Within you lies the power for good - Use it!

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                        Sorry for the indiscretion.:( I voted you a 5 for pointing this out in a non-hostile manner. ;-) In my defense I was in a heady euphoric state :suss: because after months of tracking an elusive “leap of logic” :confused: I located it and in one fell swoop brought down a DPM [defects per million] from an unacceptable 0.01% to an acceptable 0.00009%. :cool: This epiphany ended a marathon system test cycle X| [I would rather have my teeth drilled than do system testing] that has lasted for 3 months :mad: and has had me working 12 – 15 hours a day, 7 days a week. :omg: I happened to read Chris’ post while waiting for a confirmation run to complete, thus the euphoric state of mind, :-D and coincidently had to go to the toilet :-O [pardon the “T” word] at the time. As it was also 0400 I was quite delirious :zzz: from yet another marathon day. As often happens when you are sleep deprived [ask the guests at the Hotel Guantanamo] your mind isn’t firing the usual synapses :eek: but seems to go off in a random fusillade. :omg: In this state of delirium I posted a very infantile attempt at a joke. :~ Sorry if it offended anyone. :-O :-O :-O Now that I have given you way more information than you probably care for ;P I am off for a well needed break today; possibly a margarita :beer: :beer: :beer: for breakfast and it should all be down hill from there. :laugh: Alcohol is best enjoyed on an empty stomach – F. Scott Fitzgerald JimmyRopes

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                          Wow, that sounds familiar. Of course, for me it brings to mind Crystal Reports, and an old version of the Formula One grid control. Both of those were large, feature-heavy components, designed back in the days***** when such monstrosities were written with the aim of allowing coders to quickly integrate large amounts of functionality into a new program, with very little code, and probably using VB. And both suffer from the same problem: as soon as you venture beyond what was envisioned by the designers, you find yourself in a nightmare world of hacks, bizarre method-call sequences and combinations, odd performance issues, and brick walls ten feet thick. Yup, sure will be glad to leave all that behind and move completely into the world of .NET, where all object models are sanely designed and fully documented, and never was easy extensibility sacrificed to meet a deadline... :rolleyes: *****not that those days have gone away or anything...

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                          You mention the terms 'envisioned', 'designers', and 'Crystal Reports' in the same paragraph. Optimistic indeed. I used to get high on life until I realized that life was cut with morons - Unknown

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                            Wow, that sounds familiar. Of course, for me it brings to mind Crystal Reports, and an old version of the Formula One grid control. Both of those were large, feature-heavy components, designed back in the days***** when such monstrosities were written with the aim of allowing coders to quickly integrate large amounts of functionality into a new program, with very little code, and probably using VB. And both suffer from the same problem: as soon as you venture beyond what was envisioned by the designers, you find yourself in a nightmare world of hacks, bizarre method-call sequences and combinations, odd performance issues, and brick walls ten feet thick. Yup, sure will be glad to leave all that behind and move completely into the world of .NET, where all object models are sanely designed and fully documented, and never was easy extensibility sacrificed to meet a deadline... :rolleyes: *****not that those days have gone away or anything...

                            ---- Scripts i've known... CPhog 0.9.9 - make CP better. Forum Bookmark 0.2.5 - bookmark forum posts on Pensieve Print forum 0.1.1 - printer-friendly forums

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                            Oh Crystal Reports, it was so bad trying to use this product, I went and wrote my own reporting language instead. Blogless

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