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    Yes. Nobody died because of it.

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    gidius Ahenobarbus
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    Sorry do you mean it's banned in your country or that yes you're in favour of a ban? Are you gonna bark all, day little doggy. Or are you gonna bite. - Mr Blonde

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      I keep alternating my view on the proposed smoking ban in the UK. Mostly depending on who I talk to. Pros and cons anyone? Is public smoking banned in any of your countries? Are you gonna bark all, day little doggy. Or are you gonna bite. - Mr Blonde

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      Alvaro Mendez
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      farmer giles wrote:

      Is public smoking banned in any of your countries?

      Yes, public in-doors is mostly banned here in Florida and in many other states of the US. Not long ago we went to a restaurant while driving through Georgia (or South Carolina, I forgot which) and were surprised when the hostess asked us whether we preferred the smoking or non-smoking section. I still don't get how people can enjoy a meal while breathing smoke. Alvaro


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      • G gidius Ahenobarbus

        I keep alternating my view on the proposed smoking ban in the UK. Mostly depending on who I talk to. Pros and cons anyone? Is public smoking banned in any of your countries? Are you gonna bark all, day little doggy. Or are you gonna bite. - Mr Blonde

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        It's being banned in more and more public places here in Colorado. I've no problem with it, so long as they make an exception for sheltered outdoor areas in restaurants, etc. This state needs more beer gardens, and if it takes the smokers to make it happen, then so be it...

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        • A Alvaro Mendez

          farmer giles wrote:

          Is public smoking banned in any of your countries?

          Yes, public in-doors is mostly banned here in Florida and in many other states of the US. Not long ago we went to a restaurant while driving through Georgia (or South Carolina, I forgot which) and were surprised when the hostess asked us whether we preferred the smoking or non-smoking section. I still don't get how people can enjoy a meal while breathing smoke. Alvaro


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          gidius Ahenobarbus
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          Alvaro Mendez wrote:

          mostly

          What you mean it is banned in some counties but there is no state wide ban.

          Alvaro Mendez wrote:

          I still don't get how people can enjoy a meal while breathing smoke.

          Generally its after the meal, or in between courses. Are you gonna bark all, day little doggy. Or are you gonna bite. - Mr Blonde

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            It's being banned in more and more public places here in Colorado. I've no problem with it, so long as they make an exception for sheltered outdoor areas in restaurants, etc. This state needs more beer gardens, and if it takes the smokers to make it happen, then so be it...

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            gidius Ahenobarbus
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            I was really wondering about a nation wide or state wide ban. It's already banned in quite a few places here but now they are proposing banning it everywhere. Are you gonna bark all, day little doggy. Or are you gonna bite. - Mr Blonde

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              farmer giles wrote:

              Is public smoking banned in any of your countries?

              Yes, public in-doors is mostly banned here in Florida and in many other states of the US. Not long ago we went to a restaurant while driving through Georgia (or South Carolina, I forgot which) and were surprised when the hostess asked us whether we preferred the smoking or non-smoking section. I still don't get how people can enjoy a meal while breathing smoke. Alvaro


              Don't make me come down there. - God

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              Alvaro Mendez wrote:

              I still don't get how people can enjoy a meal while breathing smoke.

              I suspect it has a lot to do with greasy-spoon diners. Let's face it - smoke, whether first- or second-hand, is gonna wreck the taste of a good meal. But a pile of greasy, rancid bacon next to some over-salted hashbrowns and under-cooked eggs? Heck, you're gonna have a hard time choking that down without a little something to dull your tastebuds first. :sigh:

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              • G gidius Ahenobarbus

                I was really wondering about a nation wide or state wide ban. It's already banned in quite a few places here but now they are proposing banning it everywhere. Are you gonna bark all, day little doggy. Or are you gonna bite. - Mr Blonde

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                Shog9 0
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                It would be fairly difficult to get something like that passed nation-wide, unless/until most of the states already have it. It'll probably happen, eventually - we love banning stuff.

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                  It would be fairly difficult to get something like that passed nation-wide, unless/until most of the states already have it. It'll probably happen, eventually - we love banning stuff.

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                  Impega
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                  I'de imagine it would be fairly hard to implement a nation wide ban in the States, state by state would make more sense, let one be the ginea pig then the rest follow. I know here in Ireland we were being watched very carefully by other countries to see how things went, especially with the publicans. Once we had it up and running for a while, Sweden started bringing it in, June/July '05, then the north, Scotland, Wales and in England. A few years later I think it was a great idea even though I am a smoker my self. Its amazing how the pubs have gotten over this(the offlicences are doing a great business). Seen something on the news earlier and one publican in England was saying it would put him out of business, I dought this would be the case (but not ruling this out completely). The publicans were saying this here also, I can't see much of an effect (this is more to do with the price of drink and living in general), they say now the best place to meet someone it out side while having a smoke. Beer gardens are getting better. A pub here in town has one of the best beer gardens I've seen. Fully sheltered with patio heaters during the winter, the roof comes off during the summer, bands and outside bar. Alot of pubs now have dedicated smoking room (with no roof, a loop hole:->)

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                  • G gidius Ahenobarbus

                    I keep alternating my view on the proposed smoking ban in the UK. Mostly depending on who I talk to. Pros and cons anyone? Is public smoking banned in any of your countries? Are you gonna bark all, day little doggy. Or are you gonna bite. - Mr Blonde

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                    Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                    There's a smoke ban here in public in-door places. I love it. I absolutely love it. This simply means that I can enjoy playing pool, for instance, without having to jeopardize my health. If smokers want to die ahead of schedule, fine. Just don't drag me into the mass suicide. :)

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                    • G gidius Ahenobarbus

                      Alvaro Mendez wrote:

                      mostly

                      What you mean it is banned in some counties but there is no state wide ban.

                      Alvaro Mendez wrote:

                      I still don't get how people can enjoy a meal while breathing smoke.

                      Generally its after the meal, or in between courses. Are you gonna bark all, day little doggy. Or are you gonna bite. - Mr Blonde

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                      Alvaro Mendez
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                      farmer giles wrote:

                      What you mean it is banned in some counties but there is no state wide ban.

                      No, I meant that it's not banned in all indoor public places, although it is a state-wide ban. Here's what google gave me: http://www.smokefreeworld.com/usa.shtml[^] Note that for Florida: July 2003: smoking banned in the workplace (including restaurants). Stand-alone bars and smoking rooms in hotels are exempt. Alvaro


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                        farmer giles wrote:

                        What you mean it is banned in some counties but there is no state wide ban.

                        No, I meant that it's not banned in all indoor public places, although it is a state-wide ban. Here's what google gave me: http://www.smokefreeworld.com/usa.shtml[^] Note that for Florida: July 2003: smoking banned in the workplace (including restaurants). Stand-alone bars and smoking rooms in hotels are exempt. Alvaro


                        Don't make me come down there. - God -- modified at 18:34 Tuesday 14th February, 2006

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                        Alvaro Mendez wrote:

                        Stand-alone bars

                        How the hell are you supposed to meet some one if you have to stand alone? ;;) I'm pretty sure I would not like to live in a world in which I would never be offended. I am absolutely certain I don't want to live in a world in which you would never be offended. Dave

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                          Alvaro Mendez wrote:

                          Stand-alone bars

                          How the hell are you supposed to meet some one if you have to stand alone? ;;) I'm pretty sure I would not like to live in a world in which I would never be offended. I am absolutely certain I don't want to live in a world in which you would never be offended. Dave

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                          Alvaro Mendez
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                          DRHuff wrote:

                          How the hell are you supposed to meet some one if you have to stand alone?

                          :) Well, if you're standing alone, and she's standing alone, you can then walk up to her and ask her if she'd prefer to go somewhere else to lie down with you (instead of standing there alone). ;) Alvaro


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                          • G gidius Ahenobarbus

                            I keep alternating my view on the proposed smoking ban in the UK. Mostly depending on who I talk to. Pros and cons anyone? Is public smoking banned in any of your countries? Are you gonna bark all, day little doggy. Or are you gonna bite. - Mr Blonde

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                            Ian Darling
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                            My own opinion is essentially "I don't care if people smoke as long as there's something resembling ventilation". Which would be a broadly sensible approach to take - I don't like pubs that get really smoky - but my local is fine as it is - you can smell the smoke a bit, but it's not all that bad. Smoking at the bar is marginally more contentious, but again, as long as there's scope for some ventilation, I don't see it as a big deal.


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                              Alvaro Mendez wrote:

                              I still don't get how people can enjoy a meal while breathing smoke.

                              I suspect it has a lot to do with greasy-spoon diners. Let's face it - smoke, whether first- or second-hand, is gonna wreck the taste of a good meal. But a pile of greasy, rancid bacon next to some over-salted hashbrowns and under-cooked eggs? Heck, you're gonna have a hard time choking that down without a little something to dull your tastebuds first. :sigh:

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                              Shog9 wrote:

                              But a pile of greasy, rancid bacon next to some over-salted hashbrowns and under-cooked eggs?

                              You forgot the black pudding :yum:


                              Ian Darling The world is a thing of utter inordinate complexity ... that such complexity can arise ... out of such simplicity ... is the most fabulous extraordinary idea ... once you get some kind of inkling of how that might have happened - it's just wonderful ... the opportunity to spend 70 or 80 years of your life in such a universe is time well spent as far as I am concerned - Douglas Adams

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                                Shog9 wrote:

                                But a pile of greasy, rancid bacon next to some over-salted hashbrowns and under-cooked eggs?

                                You forgot the black pudding :yum:


                                Ian Darling The world is a thing of utter inordinate complexity ... that such complexity can arise ... out of such simplicity ... is the most fabulous extraordinary idea ... once you get some kind of inkling of how that might have happened - it's just wonderful ... the opportunity to spend 70 or 80 years of your life in such a universe is time well spent as far as I am concerned - Douglas Adams

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                                Shog9 0
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                                Is that anything like blood sausage?

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                                • G gidius Ahenobarbus

                                  I keep alternating my view on the proposed smoking ban in the UK. Mostly depending on who I talk to. Pros and cons anyone? Is public smoking banned in any of your countries? Are you gonna bark all, day little doggy. Or are you gonna bite. - Mr Blonde

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                                  Colin Angus Mackay
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                                  farmer giles wrote:

                                  proposed smoking ban in the UK

                                  Proposed? It comes into force in Scotland on March 26. Maybe England is just a little bit behind on that one. ;P

                                  farmer giles wrote:

                                  Pros and cons anyone?

                                  These are based on the laws as they go into force Scotland. England may have differences. Pro: I can go into a pub without my eyes watering. Con: All the smokers will congregate on the street just outside the pub making it necessary to walk through a barrier of smoke in order to get into the pub. Con: Smokers will just smoke more in the street, at bus stops and so on. Which just moves the problem. Pro: At least if they are smoking on the street it will be taken away quickly on a breezy day. Pro: Smoking in the workplace will be banned. Con: It means that for truck drivers, alone in their cab, that they cannot smoke while the truck is in Scotland. So, if they are parked up for the night and they want to have a smoke they must do so outside the truck - even if it is raining/snowing/blowing a gale. ColinMackay.net "Man who stand on hill with mouth open will wait long time for roast duck to drop in." -- Confucius "If a man empties his purse into his head, no man can take it away from him, for an investment in knowledge pays the best interest." -- Joseph E. O'Donnell

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                                  • A Alvaro Mendez

                                    farmer giles wrote:

                                    Is public smoking banned in any of your countries?

                                    Yes, public in-doors is mostly banned here in Florida and in many other states of the US. Not long ago we went to a restaurant while driving through Georgia (or South Carolina, I forgot which) and were surprised when the hostess asked us whether we preferred the smoking or non-smoking section. I still don't get how people can enjoy a meal while breathing smoke. Alvaro


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                                    Colin Angus Mackay
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                                    Alvaro Mendez wrote:

                                    I still don't get how people can enjoy a meal while breathing smoke.

                                    When I worked on a project in Spain and we went out to a restaurant on the second evening I was stunned that the non-smoking section consisted of just 3 tables. The rest of the restaurant was smoking. Luckily being in a group of guirris (sp?) (aka foreigners) we arrived at the restaurant at 8, just as they were opening up. So, there was no one else there. As I recall we had the restaurant all to ourselves up until the dessert. ColinMackay.net "Man who stand on hill with mouth open will wait long time for roast duck to drop in." -- Confucius "If a man empties his purse into his head, no man can take it away from him, for an investment in knowledge pays the best interest." -- Joseph E. O'Donnell

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                                      Is that anything like blood sausage?

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                                      Colin Angus Mackay
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                                      I don't know what blood sausage is, but black pudding is held together with congealed blood. ColinMackay.net "Man who stand on hill with mouth open will wait long time for roast duck to drop in." -- Confucius "If a man empties his purse into his head, no man can take it away from him, for an investment in knowledge pays the best interest." -- Joseph E. O'Donnell

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                                      • G gidius Ahenobarbus

                                        Alvaro Mendez wrote:

                                        mostly

                                        What you mean it is banned in some counties but there is no state wide ban.

                                        Alvaro Mendez wrote:

                                        I still don't get how people can enjoy a meal while breathing smoke.

                                        Generally its after the meal, or in between courses. Are you gonna bark all, day little doggy. Or are you gonna bite. - Mr Blonde

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                                        farmer giles wrote:

                                        Generally its after the meal, or in between courses.

                                        So tables besides you should stop eating when you're done your meal ?

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                                        • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

                                          There's a smoke ban here in public in-door places. I love it. I absolutely love it. This simply means that I can enjoy playing pool, for instance, without having to jeopardize my health. If smokers want to die ahead of schedule, fine. Just don't drag me into the mass suicide. :)

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                                          Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote:

                                          This simply means that I can enjoy playing pool, for instance, without having to jeopardize my health.

                                          I seem to recall a number of unhealthy aspects to pool halls besides smoke! :doh: Better to live one day as a lion than a hundred years as a sheep.

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