Smoking ban
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I thought the liberal ethic of freedom basically states that as long as it doesn't hurt anybody else, you should be free to do it. How does smoking in a smoking section in a restaurant hurt anybody? Or is this because Tobacco companies make a lot of money.
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K(arl) wrote:
As an ex-smoker, I am totally in favor of such a ban.
I'm also an ex-smoker, and I totally agree with you. Jeremy Falcon
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I thought the liberal ethic of freedom basically states that as long as it doesn't hurt anybody else, you should be free to do it. How does smoking in a smoking section in a restaurant hurt anybody? Or is this because Tobacco companies make a lot of money.
espeir wrote:
the liberal ethic of freedom basically states that as long as it doesn't hurt anybody else,
Why 'liberal'? Do conservatives believe that freedom states whatever the consequences for anybody else?
espeir wrote:
How does smoking in a smoking section in a restaurant hurt anybody?
I have never seen for the moment a restaurant with a smoking section totally separated from the non-smoking section. Putting twoi signs on the walls is not enough. But if such a restaurant exists, there is of course no problem.
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K(arl) wrote:
it is about the most basic right: the one to live.
But that doesn't square with ... The problem is, the entire society has to deal with the cost of damages created by tobaccos. If you want to live, don't smoke and don't go to places where other people do so. But if your life is so important to you that you give the state the power to protect you at all costs, and because of that you have to stop everyone from smoking, your right to life is superceeding every other personal liberty in society. You have turned your society into nothing more than a benevolent dictatorship - determined to protect its citizens from themselves regardless of how much freedom they have to deny. "You get that which you tolerate"
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farmer giles wrote:
Is public smoking banned in any of your countries?
Yes, public in-doors is mostly banned here in Florida and in many other states of the US. Not long ago we went to a restaurant while driving through Georgia (or South Carolina, I forgot which) and were surprised when the hostess asked us whether we preferred the smoking or non-smoking section. I still don't get how people can enjoy a meal while breathing smoke. Alvaro
Don't make me come down there. - God
Simple choice - If you don't like second-hand smoke, don't eat there. The government should not be able to tell the owner of the establishment what they can or cannot allow in their place of business. Just one more personal, God given right flushed down the drain.
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Such as..? :~
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Can you tolerate smoke in your neighborhood? I can't anymore. Funny how ex-smokers have often the tendency to become anti-smoking ayatollahs. :)
K(arl) wrote:
Can you tolerate smoke in your neighborhood? I can't anymore.
I can't stand it. I can barely go into Casinos, etc. where a lot of people smoke because my eyes will water, etc.
K(arl) wrote:
Funny how ex-smokers have often the tendency to become anti-smoking ayatollahs.
Yeah. I've always heard that ex-smokers are the worst about it, and I believe it so far. :-D Jeremy Falcon
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Sorry do you mean it's banned in your country or that yes you're in favour of a ban? Are you gonna bark all, day little doggy. Or are you gonna bite. - Mr Blonde
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Alvaro Mendez wrote:
I still don't get how people can enjoy a meal while breathing smoke.
When I worked on a project in Spain and we went out to a restaurant on the second evening I was stunned that the non-smoking section consisted of just 3 tables. The rest of the restaurant was smoking. Luckily being in a group of guirris (sp?) (aka foreigners) we arrived at the restaurant at 8, just as they were opening up. So, there was no one else there. As I recall we had the restaurant all to ourselves up until the dessert. ColinMackay.net "Man who stand on hill with mouth open will wait long time for roast duck to drop in." -- Confucius "If a man empties his purse into his head, no man can take it away from him, for an investment in knowledge pays the best interest." -- Joseph E. O'Donnell
Colin Angus Mackay wrote:
When I worked on a project in Spain and we went out to a restaurant on the second evening I was stunned that the non-smoking section consisted of just 3 tables. The rest of the restaurant was smoking.
Beth and I found a restaurant like that near her place a few months ago. We walked out, and haven't been back since... Anna :rose: Currently working mostly on: Visual Lint :cool: Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work.
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Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote:
Such as..?
Scantily clad nymphettes with burly boyfriends. Drunks, druggies and heathens with attitudes. Maybe I was going to the wrong pool halls... :omg: Better to live one day as a lion than a hundred years as a sheep.
Sounds fun. Can I have the address? :-> Anna :rose: Currently working mostly on: Visual Lint :cool: Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work.