What language???
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code-frog wrote:
Which language did you first learn programming in?
QBasic. :-O
code-frog wrote:
Which language did you sweat bullets in for the first time? (What language was your trial by fire? Your very first maximum stress experience...)
Classic VB. Mainly because it was work-related and piss-poor management. But hey, what a fun ride.
code-frog wrote:
If you knew pressure was coming which language would you be more inclined to have at your back? Not necessarily your favorite but the one you know best.
For app development: C/C++ (not STL or MFC though) or classic VB. I can code that crap in my sleep and I've been an WinAPI programmer for over a decade now. For web developemnt: HTML 4.0 and JavaScript all the way. None of that fancy CSS or WYSIWYG stuff either. Just pure, raw table and event driven fun. Jeremy Falcon
Jeremy Falcon wrote:
I've been an WinAPI programmer for over a decade now.
I just realised I can almost say the same thing. Only a couple of months to go! :cool: And I'm only 25... :~
Ryan
"Punctuality is only a virtue for those who aren't smart enough to think of good excuses for being late" John Nichol "Point Of Impact"
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Jeremy Falcon wrote:
I've been an WinAPI programmer for over a decade now.
I just realised I can almost say the same thing. Only a couple of months to go! :cool: And I'm only 25... :~
Ryan
"Punctuality is only a virtue for those who aren't smart enough to think of good excuses for being late" John Nichol "Point Of Impact"
Ryan Binns wrote:
I just realised I can almost say the same thing. Only a couple of months to go!
You old fart.
Ryan Binns wrote:
And I'm only 25...
Ok maybe not. :laugh: Jeremy Falcon
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So here's one I was just reflecting on.
- Which language did you first learn programming in?
- Which language did you sweat bullets in for the first time? (What language was your trial by fire? Your very first maximum stress experience...)
- If you knew pressure was coming which language would you be more inclined to have at your back? Not necessarily your favorite but the one you know best.
For me:
- The answer is C. My college even used K & R.
- SAP R/3 & Abap 4. Had to work in it and C++/ATL.
- C. I just like C. It's fun and simple. Frameworks take a long time to learn.
I only read CP for the articles. Code-frog System Architects, Inc.
My first language was Basic, Z-80 TRS-80 Model I Basic to be specific. A friend got a computer for Christmas present, he wanted to learn how to write his own games, but was lousy at learning from books, he basically hired me to learn the language from his books and then tutor him. I learned a variety of languages then, eating them up like candy. Went through almost every variation of Basic known to man at the time (and a few obscure ones), Fortran, Pascal, Modula, even Lisp. All in the last year of High School and first year in college. I even learned hypercard on one day in the library where a guy was trying to find a bug, I learned the language (if you can call it that) and found his bug in a single hour. But C was my first show stopper. I learned the language somewhat well, but the variety in the library systems overloaded my internal RAM, it was the first time I resorted to a cheat-sheet, I bought a pocket guide.... C/OOC/C++ are the only languages that took longer than a week to learn. C is still my strongest, I can translate any language I know into C, but C is still my strongest. C++ I can do but not as easily or as rapidly, though I am getting better at C++ simply by relying on STL more often. I just have the longer history of programming crunch code in C, lately all of the pressure cruches have been in C++ and I still survived, so did work. But in the end C is still my strongest. _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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So here's one I was just reflecting on.
- Which language did you first learn programming in?
- Which language did you sweat bullets in for the first time? (What language was your trial by fire? Your very first maximum stress experience...)
- If you knew pressure was coming which language would you be more inclined to have at your back? Not necessarily your favorite but the one you know best.
For me:
- The answer is C. My college even used K & R.
- SAP R/3 & Abap 4. Had to work in it and C++/ATL.
- C. I just like C. It's fun and simple. Frameworks take a long time to learn.
I only read CP for the articles. Code-frog System Architects, Inc.
1. BASIC: on ZX spectrum 64K 2. Java (Swing): I was at one time a big Java fan. So I incorrectly assumed I could write a high performance network application with a fast responsive GUI in it. About two-thirds of the way through I realized that this really isnt the right tool for the job, but I wanted to squeeze the maximum out of it before we abandoned the entire code base written over a year.So I tried all the tricks JNI, object/thread pooling, complex UI clipping, a different storage engine. The most unproductive work is when you are optimizing the hell of something that isnt even the right tool for the job. 3. Ruby / Fox-Ruby: Cant live without this! Given any task, my first reaction is "Can Ruby do this ?" before turning to C++/MFC.
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1. BASIC: on ZX spectrum 64K 2. Java (Swing): I was at one time a big Java fan. So I incorrectly assumed I could write a high performance network application with a fast responsive GUI in it. About two-thirds of the way through I realized that this really isnt the right tool for the job, but I wanted to squeeze the maximum out of it before we abandoned the entire code base written over a year.So I tried all the tricks JNI, object/thread pooling, complex UI clipping, a different storage engine. The most unproductive work is when you are optimizing the hell of something that isnt even the right tool for the job. 3. Ruby / Fox-Ruby: Cant live without this! Given any task, my first reaction is "Can Ruby do this ?" before turning to C++/MFC.
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So here's one I was just reflecting on.
- Which language did you first learn programming in?
- Which language did you sweat bullets in for the first time? (What language was your trial by fire? Your very first maximum stress experience...)
- If you knew pressure was coming which language would you be more inclined to have at your back? Not necessarily your favorite but the one you know best.
For me:
- The answer is C. My college even used K & R.
- SAP R/3 & Abap 4. Had to work in it and C++/ATL.
- C. I just like C. It's fun and simple. Frameworks take a long time to learn.
I only read CP for the articles. Code-frog System Architects, Inc.
1. BASIC 2. C++ 3. C# regards, Mircea Many people spend their life going to sleep when they’re not sleepy and waking up while they still are.
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So here's one I was just reflecting on.
- Which language did you first learn programming in?
- Which language did you sweat bullets in for the first time? (What language was your trial by fire? Your very first maximum stress experience...)
- If you knew pressure was coming which language would you be more inclined to have at your back? Not necessarily your favorite but the one you know best.
For me:
- The answer is C. My college even used K & R.
- SAP R/3 & Abap 4. Had to work in it and C++/ATL.
- C. I just like C. It's fun and simple. Frameworks take a long time to learn.
I only read CP for the articles. Code-frog System Architects, Inc.
1. BASIC, back when it was an acronym, and certainly not Visual Basic. ;) Started on an Apple //e, then got a C=64 of my own. I didn't really write any productive apps until later on a C=128, where the BASIC was powerful enough to do graphics and sound. Up until that time, I was content with typing in programs from Compute!'s Gazette. 2. Berkeley Pascal. Gawd that language sucks. Trying to do abstract data structures and string manipulation in Pascal (this version had no short-circuiting and no
return
statement!) was a bloody nightmare. 3. C++ all the way baby, although if I were called upon to do text parsing and/or searching, Perl would be my choice. --Mike-- Visual C++ MVP :cool: LINKS~! Ericahist | NEW!! PimpFish | CP SearchBar v3.0 | C++ Forum FAQModified on: Friday, March 3, 2006 3:13:34 AM --
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Actually it was a ZX-Spectrum+ (i think) It had 64K total (48K RAM and 16K ROM).
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So here's one I was just reflecting on.
- Which language did you first learn programming in?
- Which language did you sweat bullets in for the first time? (What language was your trial by fire? Your very first maximum stress experience...)
- If you knew pressure was coming which language would you be more inclined to have at your back? Not necessarily your favorite but the one you know best.
For me:
- The answer is C. My college even used K & R.
- SAP R/3 & Abap 4. Had to work in it and C++/ATL.
- C. I just like C. It's fun and simple. Frameworks take a long time to learn.
I only read CP for the articles. Code-frog System Architects, Inc.
code-frog wrote:
Which language did you first learn programming in?
BBC Basic (Actually on an Acorn Electron, but the Acorn and BBC were almost one and the same)
code-frog wrote:
Which language did you sweat bullets in for the first time? (What language was your trial by fire? Your very first maximum stress experience...)
A mixture of Classic ASP in VBScript and Javascript making server calls, way way way before they called it Ajax.
code-frog wrote:
If you knew pressure was coming which language would you be more inclined to have at your back? Not necessarily your favorite but the one you know best.
C# 100%
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1. BASIC: on ZX spectrum 64K 2. Java (Swing): I was at one time a big Java fan. So I incorrectly assumed I could write a high performance network application with a fast responsive GUI in it. About two-thirds of the way through I realized that this really isnt the right tool for the job, but I wanted to squeeze the maximum out of it before we abandoned the entire code base written over a year.So I tried all the tricks JNI, object/thread pooling, complex UI clipping, a different storage engine. The most unproductive work is when you are optimizing the hell of something that isnt even the right tool for the job. 3. Ruby / Fox-Ruby: Cant live without this! Given any task, my first reaction is "Can Ruby do this ?" before turning to C++/MFC.
1. The language used with dBase II (forgot the name) 2. C# (compact framework) Because of the lousy performance. Into the same category goes eVB. Man was this thing crap. Performance and memory consumption was crazy on this small Jornada 680/720 devices. I always had memory problems. 3. C++ I am just facing the same problem like you had with Swing. The program is working but way too slow. The memory performance is even worse. The GC is just not doing it's job properly. And I guess I must rewrite the whole thing in eVC I only have 32 Megabyte of Memory and I have about 20 Megabyte of Data as well. The Machine has no harddisk. GC is not working correctly so I am always short of memory. :(( :(
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So here's one I was just reflecting on.
- Which language did you first learn programming in?
- Which language did you sweat bullets in for the first time? (What language was your trial by fire? Your very first maximum stress experience...)
- If you knew pressure was coming which language would you be more inclined to have at your back? Not necessarily your favorite but the one you know best.
For me:
- The answer is C. My college even used K & R.
- SAP R/3 & Abap 4. Had to work in it and C++/ATL.
- C. I just like C. It's fun and simple. Frameworks take a long time to learn.
I only read CP for the articles. Code-frog System Architects, Inc.
1. A-Basic (IBM Basic) 2. never had such an experience 3. Depends on the things I want to do. For a fast/save algorithm I prefer C++, for easy building a nice desktop application C#, for a fast web application PHP. For nice programming Turbo Pascal.
code-frog wrote:
SAP R/3 & Abap 4. Had to work in it and C++/ATL.
Abap 4? That is no programming language that is just %$#i!&. Well but a so many talk about Brainfuck I will build my next Windows application with it - touring machines are super! :-D ------------------------------ PROST Roleplaying Game
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So here's one I was just reflecting on.
- Which language did you first learn programming in?
- Which language did you sweat bullets in for the first time? (What language was your trial by fire? Your very first maximum stress experience...)
- If you knew pressure was coming which language would you be more inclined to have at your back? Not necessarily your favorite but the one you know best.
For me:
- The answer is C. My college even used K & R.
- SAP R/3 & Abap 4. Had to work in it and C++/ATL.
- C. I just like C. It's fun and simple. Frameworks take a long time to learn.
I only read CP for the articles. Code-frog System Architects, Inc.
- BASIC on an APPLE II at Yamboo's Junior High (1982 ...sigh sigh ... I'm old ...) 2) C++/VB/Delphi/Assembler .... what a mess ..... 3) It was Delphi 'till 2 years ago, now I have to say C# Ciao ;)
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So here's one I was just reflecting on.
- Which language did you first learn programming in?
- Which language did you sweat bullets in for the first time? (What language was your trial by fire? Your very first maximum stress experience...)
- If you knew pressure was coming which language would you be more inclined to have at your back? Not necessarily your favorite but the one you know best.
For me:
- The answer is C. My college even used K & R.
- SAP R/3 & Abap 4. Had to work in it and C++/ATL.
- C. I just like C. It's fun and simple. Frameworks take a long time to learn.
I only read CP for the articles. Code-frog System Architects, Inc.
- BASIC on the Commodore 64, Apple IIe, and Apple IIgs. 2) Assembly (MASM 80x86). This is when I learned to comment as I code, because most of the lines looked the same to me. 3) Either C++ or VB.NET depending on the situation.
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So here's one I was just reflecting on.
- Which language did you first learn programming in?
- Which language did you sweat bullets in for the first time? (What language was your trial by fire? Your very first maximum stress experience...)
- If you knew pressure was coming which language would you be more inclined to have at your back? Not necessarily your favorite but the one you know best.
For me:
- The answer is C. My college even used K & R.
- SAP R/3 & Abap 4. Had to work in it and C++/ATL.
- C. I just like C. It's fun and simple. Frameworks take a long time to learn.
I only read CP for the articles. Code-frog System Architects, Inc.
1. Turbo Pascal 2. Prolog. Maximum stress, minimum output. 3. C# regards, Paul Watson Ireland Feed Henry! K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!
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sprintf 0 || 1
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- TI-BASIC, on the TI-99/4A
- Probably x86 assembler, possibly C
- If i knew ahead of time that no system programming would be required, probably JavaScript (since i enjoy it). Otherwise, C++ (since i'm most familiar with the runtime).
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Bots don't know when people die. --Paul Watson, RIP
Shog9 wrote:
probably JavaScript (since i enjoy it)
Got a decent editor for it? regards, Paul Watson Ireland Feed Henry! K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!
adapted from toxcct:
while (!enough)
sprintf 0 || 1
do -
So here's one I was just reflecting on.
- Which language did you first learn programming in?
- Which language did you sweat bullets in for the first time? (What language was your trial by fire? Your very first maximum stress experience...)
- If you knew pressure was coming which language would you be more inclined to have at your back? Not necessarily your favorite but the one you know best.
For me:
- The answer is C. My college even used K & R.
- SAP R/3 & Abap 4. Had to work in it and C++/ATL.
- C. I just like C. It's fun and simple. Frameworks take a long time to learn.
I only read CP for the articles. Code-frog System Architects, Inc.
1. Assembler 2. Assembler 3. C++ The tigress is here :-D
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So here's one I was just reflecting on.
- Which language did you first learn programming in?
- Which language did you sweat bullets in for the first time? (What language was your trial by fire? Your very first maximum stress experience...)
- If you knew pressure was coming which language would you be more inclined to have at your back? Not necessarily your favorite but the one you know best.
For me:
- The answer is C. My college even used K & R.
- SAP R/3 & Abap 4. Had to work in it and C++/ATL.
- C. I just like C. It's fun and simple. Frameworks take a long time to learn.
I only read CP for the articles. Code-frog System Architects, Inc.
1. 6800 assembler. 2. 6800 assembler. 3. C++ Steve
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So here's one I was just reflecting on.
- Which language did you first learn programming in?
- Which language did you sweat bullets in for the first time? (What language was your trial by fire? Your very first maximum stress experience...)
- If you knew pressure was coming which language would you be more inclined to have at your back? Not necessarily your favorite but the one you know best.
For me:
- The answer is C. My college even used K & R.
- SAP R/3 & Abap 4. Had to work in it and C++/ATL.
- C. I just like C. It's fun and simple. Frameworks take a long time to learn.
I only read CP for the articles. Code-frog System Architects, Inc.
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So here's one I was just reflecting on.
- Which language did you first learn programming in?
- Which language did you sweat bullets in for the first time? (What language was your trial by fire? Your very first maximum stress experience...)
- If you knew pressure was coming which language would you be more inclined to have at your back? Not necessarily your favorite but the one you know best.
For me:
- The answer is C. My college even used K & R.
- SAP R/3 & Abap 4. Had to work in it and C++/ATL.
- C. I just like C. It's fun and simple. Frameworks take a long time to learn.
I only read CP for the articles. Code-frog System Architects, Inc.
1. Apple /// BASIC :doh: 2. 8080 assembler, closely followed by extending a public domain C-compiler :-> 3. C++ :cool: Anna :rose: Currently working mostly on: Visual Lint :cool: Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work.
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So here's one I was just reflecting on.
- Which language did you first learn programming in?
- Which language did you sweat bullets in for the first time? (What language was your trial by fire? Your very first maximum stress experience...)
- If you knew pressure was coming which language would you be more inclined to have at your back? Not necessarily your favorite but the one you know best.
For me:
- The answer is C. My college even used K & R.
- SAP R/3 & Abap 4. Had to work in it and C++/ATL.
- C. I just like C. It's fun and simple. Frameworks take a long time to learn.
I only read CP for the articles. Code-frog System Architects, Inc.