Storage technology of the future
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Ever since I bought a digital camera, I've been archiving the piccies to CD each time the camera gets full, so far I've quite a collection. Now since my son arrived, I've been saving the photo CD's in a box we're keeping for him full of "stuff" - momentoes, my old laptop, our old mobile phones and other odd bits of todays technology etc etc (I call it his "crap" box :)) I reckon in another 20 or 30 years, he might actually be interested in all this stuff, so what will technology be like in another 20-30 years, what will be the storage technology of the day, will he still be able read those CD's I'm keeping for him, or will he look upon a CD much as today we might look upon, say an 8-Track or a '78 gramophone record. Phil Harding.
myBlog [^] | mySite [^]If he's anything like me, he'll still have a cdrom drive in constant use in his PC (although it will prolly be 10 times the size of the average pc). I still have a bunch of C90 tapes to load stuff onto a ZX Spectrum if I need to. Kinda prefer loading from CF Card, tho' :]
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Ever since I bought a digital camera, I've been archiving the piccies to CD each time the camera gets full, so far I've quite a collection. Now since my son arrived, I've been saving the photo CD's in a box we're keeping for him full of "stuff" - momentoes, my old laptop, our old mobile phones and other odd bits of todays technology etc etc (I call it his "crap" box :)) I reckon in another 20 or 30 years, he might actually be interested in all this stuff, so what will technology be like in another 20-30 years, what will be the storage technology of the day, will he still be able read those CD's I'm keeping for him, or will he look upon a CD much as today we might look upon, say an 8-Track or a '78 gramophone record. Phil Harding.
myBlog [^] | mySite [^]CDs and DVDs of normal quality don't last beyond 5 years, so 20 years from now they will be useless. Sadly. regards, Paul Watson Ireland Feed Henry! K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!
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CDs and DVDs of normal quality don't last beyond 5 years, so 20 years from now they will be useless. Sadly. regards, Paul Watson Ireland Feed Henry! K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!
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doI have had CD's that dont work after 3 years, even with no usage, seems to biodegrade or something.
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I have had CD's that dont work after 3 years, even with no usage, seems to biodegrade or something.
It is something to do with the "silver" layer apparently. It degrades and flakes. There was a study by US Library of Congress awhile back. The best quality CD lasted about 6 years or so. regards, Paul Watson Ireland Feed Henry! K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!
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It is something to do with the "silver" layer apparently. It degrades and flakes. There was a study by US Library of Congress awhile back. The best quality CD lasted about 6 years or so. regards, Paul Watson Ireland Feed Henry! K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!
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doEver seen how nicely orange juice cleans a cd? So clean you can see right thru it! ;P
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CDs and DVDs of normal quality don't last beyond 5 years, so 20 years from now they will be useless. Sadly. regards, Paul Watson Ireland Feed Henry! K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!
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Or copy them to new CDs or whatever the current optical storage is. I keep copies of all my photos on two sets of CDs and an external HD. I wish there was a better way but as of yet, not really. If you are really serious, send it to a proper backup firm. regards, Paul Watson Ireland Feed Henry! K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!
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Ever since I bought a digital camera, I've been archiving the piccies to CD each time the camera gets full, so far I've quite a collection. Now since my son arrived, I've been saving the photo CD's in a box we're keeping for him full of "stuff" - momentoes, my old laptop, our old mobile phones and other odd bits of todays technology etc etc (I call it his "crap" box :)) I reckon in another 20 or 30 years, he might actually be interested in all this stuff, so what will technology be like in another 20-30 years, what will be the storage technology of the day, will he still be able read those CD's I'm keeping for him, or will he look upon a CD much as today we might look upon, say an 8-Track or a '78 gramophone record. Phil Harding.
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Ever since I bought a digital camera, I've been archiving the piccies to CD each time the camera gets full, so far I've quite a collection. Now since my son arrived, I've been saving the photo CD's in a box we're keeping for him full of "stuff" - momentoes, my old laptop, our old mobile phones and other odd bits of todays technology etc etc (I call it his "crap" box :)) I reckon in another 20 or 30 years, he might actually be interested in all this stuff, so what will technology be like in another 20-30 years, what will be the storage technology of the day, will he still be able read those CD's I'm keeping for him, or will he look upon a CD much as today we might look upon, say an 8-Track or a '78 gramophone record. Phil Harding.
myBlog [^] | mySite [^]It is not what teechnology will be available, but what worked in the past. e.g. The Magan Carta was signed in 1215 it was writen on velum (i.e. paper) it can still be read today. So if you want to be really sure he will be able to view then, use paper! Oh and make sure it will not degrade/fade. As a serious point looking at old photographs with friends/family is always interesting, but if they were on CD would you bother?
"Normal is getting dressed in clothes that you buy for work and driving through traffic in a car that you are still paying for - in order to get to the job you need to pay for the clothes and the car, and the house you leave vacant all day so you can afford to live in it." - Ellen Goodman
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It is not what teechnology will be available, but what worked in the past. e.g. The Magan Carta was signed in 1215 it was writen on velum (i.e. paper) it can still be read today. So if you want to be really sure he will be able to view then, use paper! Oh and make sure it will not degrade/fade. As a serious point looking at old photographs with friends/family is always interesting, but if they were on CD would you bother?
"Normal is getting dressed in clothes that you buy for work and driving through traffic in a car that you are still paying for - in order to get to the job you need to pay for the clothes and the car, and the house you leave vacant all day so you can afford to live in it." - Ellen Goodman
Ted Ferenc wrote:
So if you want to be really sure he will be able to view then, use paper!
If he learns to read. Perhaps in future there will be just ebooks read by computers and you will listen. ;)
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Oh and make sure it will not degrade/fade.
That's the next problem. Nowadays paper don't will be affected by organisms the way old paper was, but it begins to fade earlier. By the way, I got a german poetry book from 1845. It used the old german German type and has many classic poems in it (for example the whole "Nibelungen Lied"). Greetings, Ingo ------------------------------ PROST Roleplaying Game
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Ted Ferenc wrote:
So if you want to be really sure he will be able to view then, use paper!
If he learns to read. Perhaps in future there will be just ebooks read by computers and you will listen. ;)
Ted Ferenc wrote:
Oh and make sure it will not degrade/fade.
That's the next problem. Nowadays paper don't will be affected by organisms the way old paper was, but it begins to fade earlier. By the way, I got a german poetry book from 1845. It used the old german German type and has many classic poems in it (for example the whole "Nibelungen Lied"). Greetings, Ingo ------------------------------ PROST Roleplaying Game
ihoecken wrote:
Perhaps in future there will be just ebooks read by computers a
In that case why do us computer nerds spend a fortune buying books? BTW you can get readers that scan a printed page and read it out to the user, the blind find them useful.
"Normal is getting dressed in clothes that you buy for work and driving through traffic in a car that you are still paying for - in order to get to the job you need to pay for the clothes and the car, and the house you leave vacant all day so you can afford to live in it." - Ellen Goodman
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It is something to do with the "silver" layer apparently. It degrades and flakes. There was a study by US Library of Congress awhile back. The best quality CD lasted about 6 years or so. regards, Paul Watson Ireland Feed Henry! K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!
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doYou're talking about "home burned" CDs, I presume. I have 20 year old music CDs, and they work fine.
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You're talking about "home burned" CDs, I presume. I have 20 year old music CDs, and they work fine.
I have a 1997 Oasis CD and it is no longer playable. Actually quite a few music CDs of mine are dodgy. I played them a lot (as they should be) and weren't stored in perfect conditions (as they shouldn't have to be.) The study included that as well and found that industrially pressed CDs did last longer but still only about 10 years. 20 years is a good run, must be some good quality there. Most aren't sadly. regards, Paul Watson Ireland Feed Henry! K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!
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Ever since I bought a digital camera, I've been archiving the piccies to CD each time the camera gets full, so far I've quite a collection. Now since my son arrived, I've been saving the photo CD's in a box we're keeping for him full of "stuff" - momentoes, my old laptop, our old mobile phones and other odd bits of todays technology etc etc (I call it his "crap" box :)) I reckon in another 20 or 30 years, he might actually be interested in all this stuff, so what will technology be like in another 20-30 years, what will be the storage technology of the day, will he still be able read those CD's I'm keeping for him, or will he look upon a CD much as today we might look upon, say an 8-Track or a '78 gramophone record. Phil Harding.
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The 100meg 'floppy' that was competing against zip drives? I think the problem was that ZIP was first and more established as a result, and then the falling price of cd burners, combined with the fact that everyone and his goldfish had a cdr drive, completely undermined the market.
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CDs and DVDs of normal quality don't last beyond 5 years, so 20 years from now they will be useless. Sadly. regards, Paul Watson Ireland Feed Henry! K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!
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Phil Harding wrote:
You mean I'm gonna have to print off all those pictures
How long do you think the ink will last before fading?
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It very much depends on who made the disc and how it was pressed as well as how you store it and use it. regards, Paul Watson Ireland Feed Henry! K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!
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My best solution was to buy two 250 gb harddrives and a motherboard with serial ata. I then mirrored the harddrives and stored my data there. That way, if one goes down, you have the other. Plus you can swap them out as technology advances and just ghost from the old to the new ones (Keep your OS on your normal harddrive as to not help crash the important data). I would NEVER keep all of your important data on one format though. Luckily it is much easier to move data around these days. If you bought a dvd burner you could minimize the number of discs you have laying around. But I would still start with a really big hard drive. Two copies for very little effort is well worth it. And many newer motherboards have serial ata with mirroring capability built in.
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Ever since I bought a digital camera, I've been archiving the piccies to CD each time the camera gets full, so far I've quite a collection. Now since my son arrived, I've been saving the photo CD's in a box we're keeping for him full of "stuff" - momentoes, my old laptop, our old mobile phones and other odd bits of todays technology etc etc (I call it his "crap" box :)) I reckon in another 20 or 30 years, he might actually be interested in all this stuff, so what will technology be like in another 20-30 years, what will be the storage technology of the day, will he still be able read those CD's I'm keeping for him, or will he look upon a CD much as today we might look upon, say an 8-Track or a '78 gramophone record. Phil Harding.
myBlog [^] | mySite [^]Hi, I think the storage of the future will be something like lightbased disks where data runs whith the speed of light in optic glass fibre, is alway's accesible, something like that and i think the cd will be long gone by then. The stupid thing with cd's is that they did not put them in a permanent case and sold them that way(such as the holder that Apple had at the beginning of the cd-rom stations). With friendly regards, Eric Goedhart Skype: eric-goedhart Deep in the fundamental heart of mind and Universe there is a reason. -Slartibartfast -- modified at 11:33 Wednesday 8th March, 2006