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  • M Marc Clifton

    I keep thinking about this post.[^], in which Fisticuffs wrote: Well, I need to write a program that does linear regressions so that I can figure out if that drug you're taking to cure your disease actually works. And I was wondering, can anyone name, off the top of their head, a drug that actually cures you. I don't mean supressing or masking the symptoms, or supressing the infection or organ that's gone out of whack, etc., but actually cures. By cure, I mean, you take the drug for a while, and then you can stop taking the drug, because it's fixed the problem. I can't think of a single FDA approved drug that truly cures. And yet, we have this subconscious concept that drugs cure. Why is that? For example, google "drug cure". There's a link on sickle cell anemia "...not a cure...". Another on epilepsy: "AED's...do not cure..." Now, I'm not poopooing drugs here--obviously, they are essential for people with serious ailments to at least have some hope of having a normal life. What I'm interested in is the phrase "drug to cure your disease" that we seem to so easily, without thought, use. [edit]:doh: I knew I missed the obvious--let's exclude antibacterial drugs from this list.[/edit] Marc Pensieve Functional Entanglement vs. Code Entanglement Static Classes Make For Rigid Architectures -- modified at 8:46 Thursday 9th March, 2006

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    Ray Cassick
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    Just a quick thougth brings to mind Penicillin.


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    • M Marc Clifton

      I keep thinking about this post.[^], in which Fisticuffs wrote: Well, I need to write a program that does linear regressions so that I can figure out if that drug you're taking to cure your disease actually works. And I was wondering, can anyone name, off the top of their head, a drug that actually cures you. I don't mean supressing or masking the symptoms, or supressing the infection or organ that's gone out of whack, etc., but actually cures. By cure, I mean, you take the drug for a while, and then you can stop taking the drug, because it's fixed the problem. I can't think of a single FDA approved drug that truly cures. And yet, we have this subconscious concept that drugs cure. Why is that? For example, google "drug cure". There's a link on sickle cell anemia "...not a cure...". Another on epilepsy: "AED's...do not cure..." Now, I'm not poopooing drugs here--obviously, they are essential for people with serious ailments to at least have some hope of having a normal life. What I'm interested in is the phrase "drug to cure your disease" that we seem to so easily, without thought, use. [edit]:doh: I knew I missed the obvious--let's exclude antibacterial drugs from this list.[/edit] Marc Pensieve Functional Entanglement vs. Code Entanglement Static Classes Make For Rigid Architectures -- modified at 8:46 Thursday 9th March, 2006

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      Omnicef (cefdinir)[^] Ammoxicillin[^] pretty much all of these[^] if the infection is bacterial and not viral. Oh, and Quixin[^] for pink eye. Cleared mine up in ~6 hrs. (although i had to take it longer). ~Nitron.


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      • M Marc Clifton

        I keep thinking about this post.[^], in which Fisticuffs wrote: Well, I need to write a program that does linear regressions so that I can figure out if that drug you're taking to cure your disease actually works. And I was wondering, can anyone name, off the top of their head, a drug that actually cures you. I don't mean supressing or masking the symptoms, or supressing the infection or organ that's gone out of whack, etc., but actually cures. By cure, I mean, you take the drug for a while, and then you can stop taking the drug, because it's fixed the problem. I can't think of a single FDA approved drug that truly cures. And yet, we have this subconscious concept that drugs cure. Why is that? For example, google "drug cure". There's a link on sickle cell anemia "...not a cure...". Another on epilepsy: "AED's...do not cure..." Now, I'm not poopooing drugs here--obviously, they are essential for people with serious ailments to at least have some hope of having a normal life. What I'm interested in is the phrase "drug to cure your disease" that we seem to so easily, without thought, use. [edit]:doh: I knew I missed the obvious--let's exclude antibacterial drugs from this list.[/edit] Marc Pensieve Functional Entanglement vs. Code Entanglement Static Classes Make For Rigid Architectures -- modified at 8:46 Thursday 9th March, 2006

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        Marc Clifton wrote:

        And yet, we have this subconscious concept that drugs cure. Why is that

        Well the term "drug" was originally used for dried plants respective their parts uses as elixir. Many drugs are in medicine, but I don't know a nowadays "drug" which you take pure for cure :) (Just a German link: http://www.gesundheit.com/gc_detail_11_info2_8.html[^]) Greetings, Ingo ------------------------------ PROST Roleplaying Game

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        • M Marc Clifton

          I keep thinking about this post.[^], in which Fisticuffs wrote: Well, I need to write a program that does linear regressions so that I can figure out if that drug you're taking to cure your disease actually works. And I was wondering, can anyone name, off the top of their head, a drug that actually cures you. I don't mean supressing or masking the symptoms, or supressing the infection or organ that's gone out of whack, etc., but actually cures. By cure, I mean, you take the drug for a while, and then you can stop taking the drug, because it's fixed the problem. I can't think of a single FDA approved drug that truly cures. And yet, we have this subconscious concept that drugs cure. Why is that? For example, google "drug cure". There's a link on sickle cell anemia "...not a cure...". Another on epilepsy: "AED's...do not cure..." Now, I'm not poopooing drugs here--obviously, they are essential for people with serious ailments to at least have some hope of having a normal life. What I'm interested in is the phrase "drug to cure your disease" that we seem to so easily, without thought, use. [edit]:doh: I knew I missed the obvious--let's exclude antibacterial drugs from this list.[/edit] Marc Pensieve Functional Entanglement vs. Code Entanglement Static Classes Make For Rigid Architectures -- modified at 8:46 Thursday 9th March, 2006

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          Surely many drugs that target a virus cure you? They actively kill off the virus that is ailing you. Once it is wiped out from your body then you can stop taking the drug.

          Marc Clifton wrote:

          By cure, I mean, you take the drug for a while, and then you can stop taking the drug, because it's fixed the problem.

          It is the last part of that sentence that is the problem. As you point out many drugs simply supress symptons until the body does away with the problem. The drug doesn't do the curing, it just helps, shores up the defenses and provides that extra bit of oomph to overcome. regards, Paul Watson Ireland Feed Henry! K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!

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          • P Paul Watson

            Surely many drugs that target a virus cure you? They actively kill off the virus that is ailing you. Once it is wiped out from your body then you can stop taking the drug.

            Marc Clifton wrote:

            By cure, I mean, you take the drug for a while, and then you can stop taking the drug, because it's fixed the problem.

            It is the last part of that sentence that is the problem. As you point out many drugs simply supress symptons until the body does away with the problem. The drug doesn't do the curing, it just helps, shores up the defenses and provides that extra bit of oomph to overcome. regards, Paul Watson Ireland Feed Henry! K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!

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            Paul Watson wrote:

            They actively kill off the virus that is ailing you

            i think you mean "Bacteria" not virus, virus is very hard to kill that's why there is not drug for cold and aids and bird flu


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              Paul Watson wrote:

              They actively kill off the virus that is ailing you

              i think you mean "Bacteria" not virus, virus is very hard to kill that's why there is not drug for cold and aids and bird flu


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              Monty v2.0 wrote:

              virus is very hard to kill that's why there is not drug for cold

              The common cold is difficult to kill because it mutates so quickly, you can cure a cold, if you know which strain it is, but once a cure has been developed, the virus has already mutated into something that's resistant to that cure. Ed

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              • M Marc Clifton

                I keep thinking about this post.[^], in which Fisticuffs wrote: Well, I need to write a program that does linear regressions so that I can figure out if that drug you're taking to cure your disease actually works. And I was wondering, can anyone name, off the top of their head, a drug that actually cures you. I don't mean supressing or masking the symptoms, or supressing the infection or organ that's gone out of whack, etc., but actually cures. By cure, I mean, you take the drug for a while, and then you can stop taking the drug, because it's fixed the problem. I can't think of a single FDA approved drug that truly cures. And yet, we have this subconscious concept that drugs cure. Why is that? For example, google "drug cure". There's a link on sickle cell anemia "...not a cure...". Another on epilepsy: "AED's...do not cure..." Now, I'm not poopooing drugs here--obviously, they are essential for people with serious ailments to at least have some hope of having a normal life. What I'm interested in is the phrase "drug to cure your disease" that we seem to so easily, without thought, use. [edit]:doh: I knew I missed the obvious--let's exclude antibacterial drugs from this list.[/edit] Marc Pensieve Functional Entanglement vs. Code Entanglement Static Classes Make For Rigid Architectures -- modified at 8:46 Thursday 9th March, 2006

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                • E Ed Poore

                  Monty v2.0 wrote:

                  virus is very hard to kill that's why there is not drug for cold

                  The common cold is difficult to kill because it mutates so quickly, you can cure a cold, if you know which strain it is, but once a cure has been developed, the virus has already mutated into something that's resistant to that cure. Ed

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                  yes thats why viruses are hard to kill cause they mutate quickly


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                  • M Marc Clifton

                    I keep thinking about this post.[^], in which Fisticuffs wrote: Well, I need to write a program that does linear regressions so that I can figure out if that drug you're taking to cure your disease actually works. And I was wondering, can anyone name, off the top of their head, a drug that actually cures you. I don't mean supressing or masking the symptoms, or supressing the infection or organ that's gone out of whack, etc., but actually cures. By cure, I mean, you take the drug for a while, and then you can stop taking the drug, because it's fixed the problem. I can't think of a single FDA approved drug that truly cures. And yet, we have this subconscious concept that drugs cure. Why is that? For example, google "drug cure". There's a link on sickle cell anemia "...not a cure...". Another on epilepsy: "AED's...do not cure..." Now, I'm not poopooing drugs here--obviously, they are essential for people with serious ailments to at least have some hope of having a normal life. What I'm interested in is the phrase "drug to cure your disease" that we seem to so easily, without thought, use. [edit]:doh: I knew I missed the obvious--let's exclude antibacterial drugs from this list.[/edit] Marc Pensieve Functional Entanglement vs. Code Entanglement Static Classes Make For Rigid Architectures -- modified at 8:46 Thursday 9th March, 2006

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                    Why would a drug company actually want to cure somebody when they profit from their continuing sickness?

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                    • M Marc Clifton

                      I keep thinking about this post.[^], in which Fisticuffs wrote: Well, I need to write a program that does linear regressions so that I can figure out if that drug you're taking to cure your disease actually works. And I was wondering, can anyone name, off the top of their head, a drug that actually cures you. I don't mean supressing or masking the symptoms, or supressing the infection or organ that's gone out of whack, etc., but actually cures. By cure, I mean, you take the drug for a while, and then you can stop taking the drug, because it's fixed the problem. I can't think of a single FDA approved drug that truly cures. And yet, we have this subconscious concept that drugs cure. Why is that? For example, google "drug cure". There's a link on sickle cell anemia "...not a cure...". Another on epilepsy: "AED's...do not cure..." Now, I'm not poopooing drugs here--obviously, they are essential for people with serious ailments to at least have some hope of having a normal life. What I'm interested in is the phrase "drug to cure your disease" that we seem to so easily, without thought, use. [edit]:doh: I knew I missed the obvious--let's exclude antibacterial drugs from this list.[/edit] Marc Pensieve Functional Entanglement vs. Code Entanglement Static Classes Make For Rigid Architectures -- modified at 8:46 Thursday 9th March, 2006

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                      When you have a viral infection, then the drugs that you are prescribed merely mask the symptoms. When you have a bacterial infection, the drugs you are prescribed (antibiotics), are used to treat and cure the infection. Regards, Brigg Thorp Senior Software Engineer Timex Corporation

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                      • P Paul Watson

                        Surely many drugs that target a virus cure you? They actively kill off the virus that is ailing you. Once it is wiped out from your body then you can stop taking the drug.

                        Marc Clifton wrote:

                        By cure, I mean, you take the drug for a while, and then you can stop taking the drug, because it's fixed the problem.

                        It is the last part of that sentence that is the problem. As you point out many drugs simply supress symptons until the body does away with the problem. The drug doesn't do the curing, it just helps, shores up the defenses and provides that extra bit of oomph to overcome. regards, Paul Watson Ireland Feed Henry! K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!

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                        Paul Watson wrote:

                        Surely many drugs that target a virus cure you?

                        We cannot cure *any* viral infections. Vaccinations can prevent them, but once you're infected all we can do is provide supportive care while your immune system battles the illness.

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                        • M Marc Clifton

                          I keep thinking about this post.[^], in which Fisticuffs wrote: Well, I need to write a program that does linear regressions so that I can figure out if that drug you're taking to cure your disease actually works. And I was wondering, can anyone name, off the top of their head, a drug that actually cures you. I don't mean supressing or masking the symptoms, or supressing the infection or organ that's gone out of whack, etc., but actually cures. By cure, I mean, you take the drug for a while, and then you can stop taking the drug, because it's fixed the problem. I can't think of a single FDA approved drug that truly cures. And yet, we have this subconscious concept that drugs cure. Why is that? For example, google "drug cure". There's a link on sickle cell anemia "...not a cure...". Another on epilepsy: "AED's...do not cure..." Now, I'm not poopooing drugs here--obviously, they are essential for people with serious ailments to at least have some hope of having a normal life. What I'm interested in is the phrase "drug to cure your disease" that we seem to so easily, without thought, use. [edit]:doh: I knew I missed the obvious--let's exclude antibacterial drugs from this list.[/edit] Marc Pensieve Functional Entanglement vs. Code Entanglement Static Classes Make For Rigid Architectures -- modified at 8:46 Thursday 9th March, 2006

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                          there are drugs that can be used to cure ulcers - you take the drugs, they suppress stomach acid and encourage the healing of the ulcers. it takes time, but once the ulcer has healed, you can stop taking the drug. you'll probably need to modify your lifestyle, if you want to keep new ones from appearing, however. i'm sure there are many drugs that do something similar. Cleek | Image Toolkits | Thumbnail maker

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                          • M Marc Clifton

                            I keep thinking about this post.[^], in which Fisticuffs wrote: Well, I need to write a program that does linear regressions so that I can figure out if that drug you're taking to cure your disease actually works. And I was wondering, can anyone name, off the top of their head, a drug that actually cures you. I don't mean supressing or masking the symptoms, or supressing the infection or organ that's gone out of whack, etc., but actually cures. By cure, I mean, you take the drug for a while, and then you can stop taking the drug, because it's fixed the problem. I can't think of a single FDA approved drug that truly cures. And yet, we have this subconscious concept that drugs cure. Why is that? For example, google "drug cure". There's a link on sickle cell anemia "...not a cure...". Another on epilepsy: "AED's...do not cure..." Now, I'm not poopooing drugs here--obviously, they are essential for people with serious ailments to at least have some hope of having a normal life. What I'm interested in is the phrase "drug to cure your disease" that we seem to so easily, without thought, use. [edit]:doh: I knew I missed the obvious--let's exclude antibacterial drugs from this list.[/edit] Marc Pensieve Functional Entanglement vs. Code Entanglement Static Classes Make For Rigid Architectures -- modified at 8:46 Thursday 9th March, 2006

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                            Is there a cure for my idiocy?

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                              Paul Watson wrote:

                              Surely many drugs that target a virus cure you?

                              We cannot cure *any* viral infections. Vaccinations can prevent them, but once you're infected all we can do is provide supportive care while your immune system battles the illness.

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                              I guess this is really a pedants question in general. You could always find another deeper level which disputes the previous levels claim to cure. regards, Paul Watson Ireland Feed Henry! K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!

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                              • M Marc Clifton

                                I keep thinking about this post.[^], in which Fisticuffs wrote: Well, I need to write a program that does linear regressions so that I can figure out if that drug you're taking to cure your disease actually works. And I was wondering, can anyone name, off the top of their head, a drug that actually cures you. I don't mean supressing or masking the symptoms, or supressing the infection or organ that's gone out of whack, etc., but actually cures. By cure, I mean, you take the drug for a while, and then you can stop taking the drug, because it's fixed the problem. I can't think of a single FDA approved drug that truly cures. And yet, we have this subconscious concept that drugs cure. Why is that? For example, google "drug cure". There's a link on sickle cell anemia "...not a cure...". Another on epilepsy: "AED's...do not cure..." Now, I'm not poopooing drugs here--obviously, they are essential for people with serious ailments to at least have some hope of having a normal life. What I'm interested in is the phrase "drug to cure your disease" that we seem to so easily, without thought, use. [edit]:doh: I knew I missed the obvious--let's exclude antibacterial drugs from this list.[/edit] Marc Pensieve Functional Entanglement vs. Code Entanglement Static Classes Make For Rigid Architectures -- modified at 8:46 Thursday 9th March, 2006

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                                A 9mm through the head cures all diseases... ------- sig starts "I've heard some drivers saying, 'We're going too fast here...'. If you're not here to race, go the hell home - don't come here and grumble about going too fast. Why don't you tie a kerosene rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                                  A 9mm through the head cures all diseases... ------- sig starts "I've heard some drivers saying, 'We're going too fast here...'. If you're not here to race, go the hell home - don't come here and grumble about going too fast. Why don't you tie a kerosene rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                                  But it leaves you with a splitting headache.

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                                    But it leaves you with a splitting headache.

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                                    How do you know? You're dead. Problem solved. ------- sig starts "I've heard some drivers saying, 'We're going too fast here...'. If you're not here to race, go the hell home - don't come here and grumble about going too fast. Why don't you tie a kerosene rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                                    • M Marc Clifton

                                      I keep thinking about this post.[^], in which Fisticuffs wrote: Well, I need to write a program that does linear regressions so that I can figure out if that drug you're taking to cure your disease actually works. And I was wondering, can anyone name, off the top of their head, a drug that actually cures you. I don't mean supressing or masking the symptoms, or supressing the infection or organ that's gone out of whack, etc., but actually cures. By cure, I mean, you take the drug for a while, and then you can stop taking the drug, because it's fixed the problem. I can't think of a single FDA approved drug that truly cures. And yet, we have this subconscious concept that drugs cure. Why is that? For example, google "drug cure". There's a link on sickle cell anemia "...not a cure...". Another on epilepsy: "AED's...do not cure..." Now, I'm not poopooing drugs here--obviously, they are essential for people with serious ailments to at least have some hope of having a normal life. What I'm interested in is the phrase "drug to cure your disease" that we seem to so easily, without thought, use. [edit]:doh: I knew I missed the obvious--let's exclude antibacterial drugs from this list.[/edit] Marc Pensieve Functional Entanglement vs. Code Entanglement Static Classes Make For Rigid Architectures -- modified at 8:46 Thursday 9th March, 2006

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                                      Every antibiotic, I would've thought.

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                                        Crack.

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                                        Good to see I'm maintaining my low post score with this irrelevant and stupid comments. :-D

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                                          there are drugs that can be used to cure ulcers - you take the drugs, they suppress stomach acid and encourage the healing of the ulcers. it takes time, but once the ulcer has healed, you can stop taking the drug. you'll probably need to modify your lifestyle, if you want to keep new ones from appearing, however. i'm sure there are many drugs that do something similar. Cleek | Image Toolkits | Thumbnail maker

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                                          An ulcer isn't a disease, though - it's just a physical condition not unlike getting a cut on your finger.

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