What drug actually cures a disease?
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I keep thinking about this post.[^], in which Fisticuffs wrote: Well, I need to write a program that does linear regressions so that I can figure out if that drug you're taking to cure your disease actually works. And I was wondering, can anyone name, off the top of their head, a drug that actually cures you. I don't mean supressing or masking the symptoms, or supressing the infection or organ that's gone out of whack, etc., but actually cures. By cure, I mean, you take the drug for a while, and then you can stop taking the drug, because it's fixed the problem. I can't think of a single FDA approved drug that truly cures. And yet, we have this subconscious concept that drugs cure. Why is that? For example, google "drug cure". There's a link on sickle cell anemia "...not a cure...". Another on epilepsy: "AED's...do not cure..." Now, I'm not poopooing drugs here--obviously, they are essential for people with serious ailments to at least have some hope of having a normal life. What I'm interested in is the phrase "drug to cure your disease" that we seem to so easily, without thought, use. [edit]:doh: I knew I missed the obvious--let's exclude antibacterial drugs from this list.[/edit] Marc Pensieve Functional Entanglement vs. Code Entanglement Static Classes Make For Rigid Architectures -- modified at 8:46 Thursday 9th March, 2006
A 9mm through the head cures all diseases... ------- sig starts "I've heard some drivers saying, 'We're going too fast here...'. If you're not here to race, go the hell home - don't come here and grumble about going too fast. Why don't you tie a kerosene rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001
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A 9mm through the head cures all diseases... ------- sig starts "I've heard some drivers saying, 'We're going too fast here...'. If you're not here to race, go the hell home - don't come here and grumble about going too fast. Why don't you tie a kerosene rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001
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But it leaves you with a splitting headache.
How do you know? You're dead. Problem solved. ------- sig starts "I've heard some drivers saying, 'We're going too fast here...'. If you're not here to race, go the hell home - don't come here and grumble about going too fast. Why don't you tie a kerosene rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001
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I keep thinking about this post.[^], in which Fisticuffs wrote: Well, I need to write a program that does linear regressions so that I can figure out if that drug you're taking to cure your disease actually works. And I was wondering, can anyone name, off the top of their head, a drug that actually cures you. I don't mean supressing or masking the symptoms, or supressing the infection or organ that's gone out of whack, etc., but actually cures. By cure, I mean, you take the drug for a while, and then you can stop taking the drug, because it's fixed the problem. I can't think of a single FDA approved drug that truly cures. And yet, we have this subconscious concept that drugs cure. Why is that? For example, google "drug cure". There's a link on sickle cell anemia "...not a cure...". Another on epilepsy: "AED's...do not cure..." Now, I'm not poopooing drugs here--obviously, they are essential for people with serious ailments to at least have some hope of having a normal life. What I'm interested in is the phrase "drug to cure your disease" that we seem to so easily, without thought, use. [edit]:doh: I knew I missed the obvious--let's exclude antibacterial drugs from this list.[/edit] Marc Pensieve Functional Entanglement vs. Code Entanglement Static Classes Make For Rigid Architectures -- modified at 8:46 Thursday 9th March, 2006
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Crack.
Good to see I'm maintaining my low post score with this irrelevant and stupid comments. :-D
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there are drugs that can be used to cure ulcers - you take the drugs, they suppress stomach acid and encourage the healing of the ulcers. it takes time, but once the ulcer has healed, you can stop taking the drug. you'll probably need to modify your lifestyle, if you want to keep new ones from appearing, however. i'm sure there are many drugs that do something similar. Cleek | Image Toolkits | Thumbnail maker
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there are drugs that can be used to cure ulcers - you take the drugs, they suppress stomach acid and encourage the healing of the ulcers. it takes time, but once the ulcer has healed, you can stop taking the drug. you'll probably need to modify your lifestyle, if you want to keep new ones from appearing, however. i'm sure there are many drugs that do something similar. Cleek | Image Toolkits | Thumbnail maker
Chris Losinger wrote:
there are drugs that can be used to cure ulcers - you take the drugs, they suppress stomach acid and encourage the healing of the ulcers. it takes time, but once the ulcer has healed, you can stop taking the drug. you'll probably need to modify your lifestyle, if you want to keep new ones from appearing, however.
Most ulcers are actually caused by a bacterial infection. AntiAcid drugs and not eating acidic food can suppress hte symptoms, anti biotics can actaully cure it.
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Why would a drug company actually want to cure somebody when they profit from their continuing sickness?
well that would be true if there where only one company on the entire market. but I guess that if one company would do so, some other company could steal market share from the first by doing a better drug. and with real and healthy competition I guess we must have somewhat good drugs out there.. or?
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I keep thinking about this post.[^], in which Fisticuffs wrote: Well, I need to write a program that does linear regressions so that I can figure out if that drug you're taking to cure your disease actually works. And I was wondering, can anyone name, off the top of their head, a drug that actually cures you. I don't mean supressing or masking the symptoms, or supressing the infection or organ that's gone out of whack, etc., but actually cures. By cure, I mean, you take the drug for a while, and then you can stop taking the drug, because it's fixed the problem. I can't think of a single FDA approved drug that truly cures. And yet, we have this subconscious concept that drugs cure. Why is that? For example, google "drug cure". There's a link on sickle cell anemia "...not a cure...". Another on epilepsy: "AED's...do not cure..." Now, I'm not poopooing drugs here--obviously, they are essential for people with serious ailments to at least have some hope of having a normal life. What I'm interested in is the phrase "drug to cure your disease" that we seem to so easily, without thought, use. [edit]:doh: I knew I missed the obvious--let's exclude antibacterial drugs from this list.[/edit] Marc Pensieve Functional Entanglement vs. Code Entanglement Static Classes Make For Rigid Architectures -- modified at 8:46 Thursday 9th March, 2006
Marc Clifton wrote:
And I was wondering, can anyone name, off the top of their head, a drug that actually cures you. I don't mean supressing or masking the symptoms, or supressing the infection or organ that's gone out of whack, etc., but actually cures. By cure, I mean, you take the drug for a while, and then you can stop taking the drug, because it's fixed the problem.
See answer above. Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash 24/04/2004
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well that would be true if there where only one company on the entire market. but I guess that if one company would do so, some other company could steal market share from the first by doing a better drug. and with real and healthy competition I guess we must have somewhat good drugs out there.. or?
A better treatment...But what about a cure? IT'S A CONSPIRACY, MAN!!!
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Chris Losinger wrote:
there are drugs that can be used to cure ulcers - you take the drugs, they suppress stomach acid and encourage the healing of the ulcers. it takes time, but once the ulcer has healed, you can stop taking the drug. you'll probably need to modify your lifestyle, if you want to keep new ones from appearing, however.
Most ulcers are actually caused by a bacterial infection. AntiAcid drugs and not eating acidic food can suppress hte symptoms, anti biotics can actaully cure it.
dan neely wrote:
Most ulcers are actually caused by a bacterial infection. AntiAcid drugs and not eating acidic food can suppress hte symptoms, anti biotics can actaully cure it.
Yeah, I actually read about that a few months ago... quite interesting. ~Nitron.
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I keep thinking about this post.[^], in which Fisticuffs wrote: Well, I need to write a program that does linear regressions so that I can figure out if that drug you're taking to cure your disease actually works. And I was wondering, can anyone name, off the top of their head, a drug that actually cures you. I don't mean supressing or masking the symptoms, or supressing the infection or organ that's gone out of whack, etc., but actually cures. By cure, I mean, you take the drug for a while, and then you can stop taking the drug, because it's fixed the problem. I can't think of a single FDA approved drug that truly cures. And yet, we have this subconscious concept that drugs cure. Why is that? For example, google "drug cure". There's a link on sickle cell anemia "...not a cure...". Another on epilepsy: "AED's...do not cure..." Now, I'm not poopooing drugs here--obviously, they are essential for people with serious ailments to at least have some hope of having a normal life. What I'm interested in is the phrase "drug to cure your disease" that we seem to so easily, without thought, use. [edit]:doh: I knew I missed the obvious--let's exclude antibacterial drugs from this list.[/edit] Marc Pensieve Functional Entanglement vs. Code Entanglement Static Classes Make For Rigid Architectures -- modified at 8:46 Thursday 9th March, 2006
Marc Clifton wrote:
And I was wondering, can anyone name, off the top of their head, a drug that actually cures you.
No such thing exists, Marc. If it did, the FDA would be quick to squelch it. If a disease ceases to exist, so does any drug that treats it and the company that created it. No company is going to willfully forgo billions of dollars in revenue for the sake of wellness. That's just my .02 on the matter.
"Let us be thankful for the fools. But for them the rest of us could not succeed." - Mark Twain
"There is no death, only a change of worlds." - Native American Proverb
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Marc Clifton wrote:
And I was wondering, can anyone name, off the top of their head, a drug that actually cures you.
No such thing exists, Marc. If it did, the FDA would be quick to squelch it. If a disease ceases to exist, so does any drug that treats it and the company that created it. No company is going to willfully forgo billions of dollars in revenue for the sake of wellness. That's just my .02 on the matter.
"Let us be thankful for the fools. But for them the rest of us could not succeed." - Mark Twain
"There is no death, only a change of worlds." - Native American Proverb
DavidCrow wrote:
No company is going to willfully forgo billions of dollars in revenue for the sake of wellness.
Unless they can get the government to pass laws effectively forcing (except for religious exemption) the administration of the drug on all children, ie, vaccines, thus ensuring a continual supply of "unwell" patients. Marc Pensieve Functional Entanglement vs. Code Entanglement Static Classes Make For Rigid Architectures
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Marc Clifton wrote:
And I was wondering, can anyone name, off the top of their head, a drug that actually cures you.
No such thing exists, Marc. If it did, the FDA would be quick to squelch it. If a disease ceases to exist, so does any drug that treats it and the company that created it. No company is going to willfully forgo billions of dollars in revenue for the sake of wellness. That's just my .02 on the matter.
"Let us be thankful for the fools. But for them the rest of us could not succeed." - Mark Twain
"There is no death, only a change of worlds." - Native American Proverb
DavidCrow wrote:
No such thing exists, Marc. If it did, the FDA would be quick to squelch it.
Polio. Measles. Whooping Cough. Rubella. Rabies. Smallpox. Guinea Worm Disease (thank you Jimmy Carter). etc... Certainly pharmaceutical companies are no more saints than other companies or groups of people. And of course they have profit in mind - just like every other flippin' company on the face of the planet. But this rampant knee-jerk cynicism has got to stop.
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I keep thinking about this post.[^], in which Fisticuffs wrote: Well, I need to write a program that does linear regressions so that I can figure out if that drug you're taking to cure your disease actually works. And I was wondering, can anyone name, off the top of their head, a drug that actually cures you. I don't mean supressing or masking the symptoms, or supressing the infection or organ that's gone out of whack, etc., but actually cures. By cure, I mean, you take the drug for a while, and then you can stop taking the drug, because it's fixed the problem. I can't think of a single FDA approved drug that truly cures. And yet, we have this subconscious concept that drugs cure. Why is that? For example, google "drug cure". There's a link on sickle cell anemia "...not a cure...". Another on epilepsy: "AED's...do not cure..." Now, I'm not poopooing drugs here--obviously, they are essential for people with serious ailments to at least have some hope of having a normal life. What I'm interested in is the phrase "drug to cure your disease" that we seem to so easily, without thought, use. [edit]:doh: I knew I missed the obvious--let's exclude antibacterial drugs from this list.[/edit] Marc Pensieve Functional Entanglement vs. Code Entanglement Static Classes Make For Rigid Architectures -- modified at 8:46 Thursday 9th March, 2006
I suffer from SAD (social anxiety disorder), i'm take some happy pills, they just balance out the chemical's i'm missing, but really doesnt "cure" it. I'm going on 7 years now, take these meds. without them i would have no life
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An ulcer isn't a disease, though - it's just a physical condition not unlike getting a cut on your finger.
Actually, the majority of ulcers are caused by a specific bacterial infection in the lining of the stomach. http://www.netdoctor.co.uk/diseases/facts/pepticulcer.htm[^]
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I keep thinking about this post.[^], in which Fisticuffs wrote: Well, I need to write a program that does linear regressions so that I can figure out if that drug you're taking to cure your disease actually works. And I was wondering, can anyone name, off the top of their head, a drug that actually cures you. I don't mean supressing or masking the symptoms, or supressing the infection or organ that's gone out of whack, etc., but actually cures. By cure, I mean, you take the drug for a while, and then you can stop taking the drug, because it's fixed the problem. I can't think of a single FDA approved drug that truly cures. And yet, we have this subconscious concept that drugs cure. Why is that? For example, google "drug cure". There's a link on sickle cell anemia "...not a cure...". Another on epilepsy: "AED's...do not cure..." Now, I'm not poopooing drugs here--obviously, they are essential for people with serious ailments to at least have some hope of having a normal life. What I'm interested in is the phrase "drug to cure your disease" that we seem to so easily, without thought, use. [edit]:doh: I knew I missed the obvious--let's exclude antibacterial drugs from this list.[/edit] Marc Pensieve Functional Entanglement vs. Code Entanglement Static Classes Make For Rigid Architectures -- modified at 8:46 Thursday 9th March, 2006
penicillin
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Actually, the majority of ulcers are caused by a specific bacterial infection in the lining of the stomach. http://www.netdoctor.co.uk/diseases/facts/pepticulcer.htm[^]
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DavidCrow wrote:
No company is going to willfully forgo billions of dollars in revenue for the sake of wellness.
Unless they can get the government to pass laws effectively forcing (except for religious exemption) the administration of the drug on all children, ie, vaccines, thus ensuring a continual supply of "unwell" patients. Marc Pensieve Functional Entanglement vs. Code Entanglement Static Classes Make For Rigid Architectures
Marc Clifton wrote:
Unless they can get the government to pass laws effectively forcing...
There's a certain amount of 'truth' to this. While the doctors are not forcing the meds upon us, there's certainly the perception that they are in cahoots with the pharmaceutical companies to get us to take as much medication as possible. Last I heard, the average time a doctor visits with a patient is less than 10 minutes, especially where HMOs are concerned. That's not a lot of time to accurately diagnose and treat a problem. It would be way too easy to just prescribe the patient a medication that would address the immediate symptoms. Doctors face so many pressures today. There are not a lot of financial incentives to spend a lot of time listening and counseling patients.
"Let us be thankful for the fools. But for them the rest of us could not succeed." - Mark Twain
"There is no death, only a change of worlds." - Native American Proverb
