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  • A Alvaro Mendez

    Toasty0 wrote:

    So, we should be "blindly" afraid of *all* from the Middle East?

    Of course not, but we should not blindly trust them all either, especially when they're government-owned. What happened to the 45-day review period?

    Toasty0 wrote:

    Sheesh, the uproar over this port deal is racism at its most base value.

    Bullsh*t! You have zero evidence of that.


    ... since we've descended to name calling, I'm thinking you're about twenty pounds of troll droppings in a ten pound bag. - Vincent Reynolds

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    It's amazing how blind or how far we will go in our quest to be anti-Bush--even to the point of accepting blanket racism when it suits our political agenda, eh? My Programming Library C#, C# Run

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      espeir wrote:

      I trust Bush's motives to do what's in the best interests of the country.

      No offense, but that's just plain stupid. Why would you give any president that much trust?

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      Red Stateler
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      No offense, but you're an idiot. Every person who voted for him gave him that trust.

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      • J Jerry Hammond

        John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

        Nobody's afraid, we're just being cautious, and given the current world dynamic, you really can't blame us.

        Why are you "cautious"? Because they are Arab, right? You've based your fear on their origin, right? On their race, right? Thank you, I rest my case. My Programming Library C#, C# Run

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        jasontg
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        Toasty0 wrote:

        Thank you, I rest my case.

        Your case is kind of shaky.... WikiPedia[^] ...both Democratic and Republican members of Congress expressed concern over the potential negative impact the deal would have on port security. They cited the 9/11 Commission report, which stated that two of the 9/11 hijackers were UAE nationals, and reports that the UAE was a major financial base for the al Qaeda terror network. I will concede that there most likely is a large amount of people that don't like the plan simply because that company is based in the Middle East..... but you can't put that blanket assumption on everyone. -J


        Think of a computer program. Somewhere, there is one key instruction, and everything else is just functions calling themselves, or brackets billowing out endlessly through an infinite address space. What happens when the brackets collapse? Where's the final 'end if'? Is any of this making sense? -Ford Prefect

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          John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

          Does everyone remember that Bush claimed he wasn't even aware of the deal until the news media started reporting on it?

          Yeah, that was a good one. "I wasn't being stupid, just ignorant! But, now that i'm fully informed, let's do something stupid..." :rolleyes: I seriously doubt DPW would ever have caused us problems, but that's beside the point. The whole deal was just UAE rubbing our noses in their "special" relationship with the Prez. X|

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          Red Stateler
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          Shog9 wrote:

          I seriously doubt DPW would ever have caused us problems

          Let's not let that get in the way of some Bush bashing!! YEEEEHAAAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!

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          • J Jerry Hammond

            It's amazing how blind or how far we will go in our quest to be anti-Bush--even to the point of accepting blanket racism when it suits our political agenda, eh? My Programming Library C#, C# Run

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            Alvaro Mendez
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            Zero evidence.


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            • A Alvaro Mendez

              viaduct wrote:

              I only trust Bush to do what's in the best interests of Bush.

              I second that.[^]


              ... since we've descended to name calling, I'm thinking you're about twenty pounds of troll droppings in a ten pound bag. - Vincent Reynolds

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              Ha! The Carlyle Group? Did you know? "The Carlyle Group’s major investor is none other than George Soros –and it was his investments that put Carlyle on the map. The top officials at the Carlyle Group are: Arthur LeVitt (Clinton’s Chairman of the SEC), Tom McLarty (Clinton’s White House Chief of Staff), William Kennard (Clinton’s Chairman of the FCC). Carlyle Group owns Lowe’s Theaters which showed Moore’s movie…therefore using Moore’s own model we can link the Bin Ladens to Carlyle and to Soros and to John Kerry and to Moveone.org and to Michael Moore."http://mobyrebuttal.blogspot.com/2004/10/brief-education-for-democrats-co.html My mom told me once that "while we all don't speak the same language, everyone in the world undestands an asskicking"

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              • R Red Stateler

                No offense, but you're an idiot. Every person who voted for him gave him that trust.

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                espeir, I agree with pretty much everything you say. But tone it down bit. People will quit listening to you if keep calling them idiots. But yes you are right, we gave him that trust. I also remember in philosophy class talking about how EVERYONE only does things in their own self interest. That includes everyone in this forum. My mom told me once that "while we all don't speak the same language, everyone in the world undestands an asskicking"

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                • R Red Stateler

                  No offense, but you're an idiot. Every person who voted for him gave him that trust.

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                  Greg Daye
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                  "I trust Bush's motives to do what's in the best interests of the country." I think there is a minor difference. I trust Bush to do what he thinks is in the best interests of the country. But what he thinks is in the best interests, and what I think are the best interests may not always coincide. I think it is every citizen's duty to monitor the behaviour of our leaders, and let them know when we have a difference of opinion.

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                  • R Red Stateler

                    No offense, but you're an idiot. Every person who voted for him gave him that trust.

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                    Shog9 0
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                    espeir wrote:

                    Every person who voted for him gave him that trust.

                    Well, that's flat out wrong. I happen to know some Bush voters, and while i don't agree with their choice i respect it as an attempt to make the best of a bad situation.

                    Now taking suggestions for the next release of CPhog...

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                    • J Jerry Hammond

                      It's amazing how blind or how far we will go in our quest to be anti-Bush--even to the point of accepting blanket racism when it suits our political agenda, eh? My Programming Library C#, C# Run

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                      got my 5 My mom told me once that "while we all don't speak the same language, everyone in the world undestands an asskicking"

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                      • R Red Stateler

                        Shog9 wrote:

                        I seriously doubt DPW would ever have caused us problems

                        Let's not let that get in the way of some Bush bashing!! YEEEEHAAAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!

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                        Shog9 0
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                        espeir wrote:

                        Let's not let that get in the way of some Bush bashing!

                        Who's bashing Bush? :confused:

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                          espeir, I agree with pretty much everything you say. But tone it down bit. People will quit listening to you if keep calling them idiots. But yes you are right, we gave him that trust. I also remember in philosophy class talking about how EVERYONE only does things in their own self interest. That includes everyone in this forum. My mom told me once that "while we all don't speak the same language, everyone in the world undestands an asskicking"

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                          Red Stateler
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                          kgaddy wrote:

                          People will quit listening to you if keep calling them idiots.

                          I'm just having some fun! YEEEEEEEHAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!

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                            kgaddy wrote:

                            People will quit listening to you if keep calling them idiots.

                            I'm just having some fun! YEEEEEEEHAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!

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                            kgaddy
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                            espeir wrote:

                            YEEEEEEEHAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!

                            Sounds like Howard Dean:laugh: My mom told me once that "while we all don't speak the same language, everyone in the world undestands an asskicking"

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                            • J jasontg

                              Toasty0 wrote:

                              Thank you, I rest my case.

                              Your case is kind of shaky.... WikiPedia[^] ...both Democratic and Republican members of Congress expressed concern over the potential negative impact the deal would have on port security. They cited the 9/11 Commission report, which stated that two of the 9/11 hijackers were UAE nationals, and reports that the UAE was a major financial base for the al Qaeda terror network. I will concede that there most likely is a large amount of people that don't like the plan simply because that company is based in the Middle East..... but you can't put that blanket assumption on everyone. -J


                              Think of a computer program. Somewhere, there is one key instruction, and everything else is just functions calling themselves, or brackets billowing out endlessly through an infinite address space. What happens when the brackets collapse? Where's the final 'end if'? Is any of this making sense? -Ford Prefect

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                              Red Stateler
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                              The 9/11 guys came from all over the middle east. And Al Qaeda money was based all over the world (including Europe). The UAE condemned the attacks and offered logistical support with the operations in the middle east. They're probably ne of our strongest allies there. Kuwait, too.

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                                Ha! The Carlyle Group? Did you know? "The Carlyle Group’s major investor is none other than George Soros –and it was his investments that put Carlyle on the map. The top officials at the Carlyle Group are: Arthur LeVitt (Clinton’s Chairman of the SEC), Tom McLarty (Clinton’s White House Chief of Staff), William Kennard (Clinton’s Chairman of the FCC). Carlyle Group owns Lowe’s Theaters which showed Moore’s movie…therefore using Moore’s own model we can link the Bin Ladens to Carlyle and to Soros and to John Kerry and to Moveone.org and to Michael Moore."http://mobyrebuttal.blogspot.com/2004/10/brief-education-for-democrats-co.html My mom told me once that "while we all don't speak the same language, everyone in the world undestands an asskicking"

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                                Alvaro Mendez
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                                Ha! Relevance?


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                                • J Jerry Hammond

                                  It's amazing how blind or how far we will go in our quest to be anti-Bush--even to the point of accepting blanket racism when it suits our political agenda, eh? My Programming Library C#, C# Run

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                                  jasontg
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                                  You are big on this racist thing.... So Bush says: Any government that supports, protects or harbours terrorists is complicit in the murder of the innocent and equally guilty of terrorist crimes. And the 9/11 Commission says: ...that two of the 9/11 hijackers were UAE nationals, and reports that the UAE was a major financial base for the al Qaeda terror network. Yes I know I used this 'quote' already today. The Treasury Department had reported: The UAE stonewalled U.S. efforts to track al Qaeda bank accounts after 9/11. It looks to me that the people who are questioning this deal are taking to heart what Bush said in that top quote..... -J


                                  Think of a computer program. Somewhere, there is one key instruction, and everything else is just functions calling themselves, or brackets billowing out endlessly through an infinite address space. What happens when the brackets collapse? Where's the final 'end if'? Is any of this making sense? -Ford Prefect

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                                    espeir wrote:

                                    Let's not let that get in the way of some Bush bashing!

                                    Who's bashing Bush? :confused:

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                                    Red Stateler
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                                    I was referring to the thread more than you specifically.

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                                      You are big on this racist thing.... So Bush says: Any government that supports, protects or harbours terrorists is complicit in the murder of the innocent and equally guilty of terrorist crimes. And the 9/11 Commission says: ...that two of the 9/11 hijackers were UAE nationals, and reports that the UAE was a major financial base for the al Qaeda terror network. Yes I know I used this 'quote' already today. The Treasury Department had reported: The UAE stonewalled U.S. efforts to track al Qaeda bank accounts after 9/11. It looks to me that the people who are questioning this deal are taking to heart what Bush said in that top quote..... -J


                                      Think of a computer program. Somewhere, there is one key instruction, and everything else is just functions calling themselves, or brackets billowing out endlessly through an infinite address space. What happens when the brackets collapse? Where's the final 'end if'? Is any of this making sense? -Ford Prefect

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                                      Red Stateler
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                                      jasontg wrote:

                                      And the 9/11 Commission says: ...that two of the 9/11 hijackers were UAE nationals, and reports that the UAE was a major financial base for the al Qaeda terror network. Yes I know I used this 'quote' already today.

                                      Not knowingly, though. They were just from there. The Taliban ran Al Qaeda (or vice versa). After 9/11 they quickly came to our aid. I agree that it is an anti-Arab thing.

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                                        jasontg wrote:

                                        And the 9/11 Commission says: ...that two of the 9/11 hijackers were UAE nationals, and reports that the UAE was a major financial base for the al Qaeda terror network. Yes I know I used this 'quote' already today.

                                        Not knowingly, though. They were just from there. The Taliban ran Al Qaeda (or vice versa). After 9/11 they quickly came to our aid. I agree that it is an anti-Arab thing.

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                                        espeir wrote:

                                        I agree that it is an anti-Arab thing.

                                        You can agree all you want, but I think that it might the Bush Administration's fear mongering blowing up in their face a little. -J


                                        Think of a computer program. Somewhere, there is one key instruction, and everything else is just functions calling themselves, or brackets billowing out endlessly through an infinite address space. What happens when the brackets collapse? Where's the final 'end if'? Is any of this making sense? -Ford Prefect

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                                          espeir wrote:

                                          I agree that it is an anti-Arab thing.

                                          You can agree all you want, but I think that it might the Bush Administration's fear mongering blowing up in their face a little. -J


                                          Think of a computer program. Somewhere, there is one key instruction, and everything else is just functions calling themselves, or brackets billowing out endlessly through an infinite address space. What happens when the brackets collapse? Where's the final 'end if'? Is any of this making sense? -Ford Prefect

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                                          Red Stateler
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                                          jasontg wrote:

                                          You can agree all you want

                                          Oh, I will......I will.....

                                          jasontg wrote:

                                          I think that it might the Bush Administration's fear mongering blowing up in their face a little.

                                          How so? Bush administration has been saying the the Muslim religion is "one of peace". Oh wait...I think we caught our first lie!

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