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So now you're gonna be an ass because you didn't say you were talking about yourself? Damn dude, go take some prozac. Jeremy Falcon
Jeremy Falcon wrote:
So now you're gonna be an ass because you didn't say you were talking about yourself? Damn dude, go take some prozac.
Wow, dude. The retilan script lapse?:suss: My Programming Library C#, C# Run
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I am no expert on interviewing but I think your criteria seems to be right ... if you don't like the guy its a ticking bomb from the start. Coding can be taught but you cannot take an unsocial code monkey and refine its social skills.
Falcon being a case-in-point My Programming Library C#, C# Run -- modified at 10:29 Saturday 11th March, 2006
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Is it appropriate to go to a co-worker or a team lead if one is having a coding problem? ... I mean when they "hit a wall" etc. ... especially if it involves developing within the company's infrastructure ... The only advantage that I can think of is saving time ... if I were a senior person in a company I would rather have the new-comer drop by my cube and ask me the "how to ..." so that we can quickly get it out of the way and that person can get along with the project itself rather than struggling for 2 hours on one problem ...
I recently started a job in the set top box industry and there is so much domain specific stuff to learn, fortunately it's a friendly place and we have all been through the same thing so it's not a problem. I'd say the main thing is to try and avoid asking the same question several times. Elaine (high definition fluffy tigress) The tigress is here :-D
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Absolutely! That's one of the reasons for having a team lead. Having been one most of my career, I think I can speak authoritatively. If your lead can't handle it, they've chosen the wrong leader. But that's not your problem - you need to get the job done, and asking for guidance, especially if you're fairly new, is entirely appropriate.
Pete Madden wrote:
The only advantage that I can think of is saving time
How about adding some new knowledge to your toolbag? Wouldn't that be an advantage, too?;) "...a photo album is like Life, but flat and stuck to pages." - Shog9
Roger Wright wrote:
How about adding some new knowledge to your toolbag? Wouldn't that be an advantage, too?
5 :) The tigress is here :-D
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Jeremy Falcon wrote:
So now you're gonna be an ass because you didn't say you were talking about yourself? Damn dude, go take some prozac.
Wow, dude. The retilan script lapse?:suss: My Programming Library C#, C# Run
Toasty0 wrote:
Wow, dude. The retilan script lapse?
:zzz: Jeremy Falcon
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Falcon being a case-in-point My Programming Library C#, C# Run -- modified at 10:29 Saturday 11th March, 2006
Toasty0 wrote:
Falcon being a case-in-point
Tell me, do you find it hard to wake up every morning, having to look into the the mirror, only to realize you're a big, dumb idiot? And a stupid reply saying "you should know" would only indicate how thoughtless you really are. Jeremy Falcon
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I recently started a job in the set top box industry and there is so much domain specific stuff to learn, fortunately it's a friendly place and we have all been through the same thing so it's not a problem. I'd say the main thing is to try and avoid asking the same question several times. Elaine (high definition fluffy tigress) The tigress is here :-D
Trollslayer wrote:
I recently started a job in the set top box industry and there is so much domain specific stuff to learn, fortunately it's a friendly place and we have all been through the same thing so it's not a problem. I'd say the main thing is to try and avoid asking the same question several times.
Hey if you are working on Sky+ boxes. Can you fix the bug where my box crashes when I hit too many keys on my remote control when moving quickly between channels. Thanks :-D Michael CP Blog [^] Development Blog [^]
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Trollslayer wrote:
I recently started a job in the set top box industry and there is so much domain specific stuff to learn, fortunately it's a friendly place and we have all been through the same thing so it's not a problem. I'd say the main thing is to try and avoid asking the same question several times.
Hey if you are working on Sky+ boxes. Can you fix the bug where my box crashes when I hit too many keys on my remote control when moving quickly between channels. Thanks :-D Michael CP Blog [^] Development Blog [^]
Ah, that isn't one of ours, it's a competitors :rolleyes: Actually I'm working on the high definition boxes so if I chase this up you might not get HD in time for the World Cup :laugh: The tigress is here :-D
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Is it appropriate to go to a co-worker or a team lead if one is having a coding problem? ... I mean when they "hit a wall" etc. ... especially if it involves developing within the company's infrastructure ... The only advantage that I can think of is saving time ... if I were a senior person in a company I would rather have the new-comer drop by my cube and ask me the "how to ..." so that we can quickly get it out of the way and that person can get along with the project itself rather than struggling for 2 hours on one problem ...
Pete Madden wrote:
Is it appropriate to go to a co-worker or a team lead if one is having a coding problem?
without question. i ask the web guys questions about CSS and JavaScript and other people ask me about C++ and SQL. it all works out.
Pete Madden wrote:
The only advantage that I can think of is saving time
also by asking questions, you learn things so you won't have to ask next time. and you give the person you ask a chance to show off his knowledge - something most people enjoy doing now and then. Cleek | Image Toolkits | Thumbnail maker
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Is it appropriate to go to a co-worker or a team lead if one is having a coding problem? ... I mean when they "hit a wall" etc. ... especially if it involves developing within the company's infrastructure ... The only advantage that I can think of is saving time ... if I were a senior person in a company I would rather have the new-comer drop by my cube and ask me the "how to ..." so that we can quickly get it out of the way and that person can get along with the project itself rather than struggling for 2 hours on one problem ...
who ask senior developers for advice. Follow it. Don't just walk in their cubicle ask them how to do something then spend the next two weeks ignoring everything they said. (Yes, I recently worked with a guy that did that all the time. It drove me nuts.) Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke
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Absolutely! That's one of the reasons for having a team lead. Having been one most of my career, I think I can speak authoritatively. If your lead can't handle it, they've chosen the wrong leader. But that's not your problem - you need to get the job done, and asking for guidance, especially if you're fairly new, is entirely appropriate.
Pete Madden wrote:
The only advantage that I can think of is saving time
How about adding some new knowledge to your toolbag? Wouldn't that be an advantage, too?;) "...a photo album is like Life, but flat and stuck to pages." - Shog9
Roger Wright wrote:
and asking for guidance, especially if you're fairly new, is entirely appropriate.
Absotively and posilutely! Ask me any question once, and I will explain it if I have the time. However, if you don't want to know "how" the solution works and only want me to write it for you.... I am usually not as responsive. Even then I will tell you where to find it in one of the reference books, or open the reference book for you. Hopefully, you learn where to find the answers on your own, or as you said, Roger, add the knowledge to a toolbag for use later. I do get very very irritated when the same problem comes to me multiple times when I answered it once, or showed someone where to find. Especially if they successfully completed the task last time, but are stuck again. Ask me how to build a clock, I will tell you the first time. Ask me a second time, I will hand you a book on clock-building. _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)