Question for US home owners
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
The worst that could happen is they could make you take it down, but usually, as long as it meets HOA rules regarding fences, and as long as the machinegun emplacements don't appear to be permanant, you should be fine. (My HOA made me remove the razor wire.)
I assume the bunkers are cammoed with landscaping to be less obvious. :D
Storm Shelters are perfectly ok in this part of the country. "Every new day begins with possibilities. It's up to us to fill it with things that move us toward progress and peace.” (Ronald Reagan)
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
Actually, placement or style of fence might be the issue.
Exactly. Out building codes have the same wording. No fencing may be forward of the house/building in the direction of the street address. Those on corner lots have been inventive. :) Closely plant bushes do also work. :) "Every new day begins with possibilities. It's up to us to fill it with things that move us toward progress and peace.” (Ronald Reagan)
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Storm Shelters are perfectly ok in this part of the country. "Every new day begins with possibilities. It's up to us to fill it with things that move us toward progress and peace.” (Ronald Reagan)
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code-frog wrote:
There shouldn't be one. HOA leadership is comprised of fellow home owners. I would simply take a picture fill out the notification form and submit it. Explain what happened and that should be it.
HAHAHA! What homeowner association do you live with? The ones my friends have told me about, the homeowners are more like Nazis than friendly neighbors. Make somebody a member on a committee, and you'll wish they were committed! Marc Pensieve Functional Entanglement vs. Code Entanglement Static Classes Make For Rigid Architectures
In Idaho things are still a bit different than elsewhere. Here community still means *A LOT* to a lot of people. That's why Boise is always in the top 5 of places to move. Yes, we get all the idiots but the natives bring them up to speed pretty quick. HOA's here aren't bad. Inbound Californian's with a screw you attitude cause way more trouble.
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Michael A. Barnhart wrote:
Closely plant bushes do also work.
any mention of a moat? Or pit of burning tar? Gary Flickr Photos[^]
Gary Thom wrote:
any mention of a moat? Or pit of burning tar?
A moat (if filled!) would be a welcome option and the burning tar would be a quick ride to jail. We are in a drought and no open fires are permited. :sigh: "Every new day begins with possibilities. It's up to us to fill it with things that move us toward progress and peace.” (Ronald Reagan)
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Michael A. Barnhart wrote:
Storm Shelters are perfectly ok in this part of the country.
Normal shelters don't have crewserved weapons though.
dan neely wrote:
Normal shelters don't have crewserved weapons though.
Normal Northern shelters don't have crewserved weapons though. Is that what you ment? "Every new day begins with possibilities. It's up to us to fill it with things that move us toward progress and peace.” (Ronald Reagan)
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As the ex-chairman of a large residents/homeoweners association I can tell you that it is not like that at all. I gave up in the end becuase I was driven to distraction by stupid people too ignorant to think or act for themselves and who put unrealistic demands on myself and the rest of the committee, who, I might add did it in their spare time and without any hint or desire for reward other than to ensure that we built a real community that we could all share and enjoy. It ended up taking at least one full day a week of my time as I represented the residents in any disputs with the local council, the builders, the management company, the builders and the lawyers (whom, I might add, I thought were, each and every one, scum, without exception). On top of which there are the complete wankers who believed that I was on the make (god knows how) and constantly picked fights or threatened to sue me if I didn't do what they thought was right. Finally there are the people who always know how to do it better than you yet resist all invitations to join the committee and prove it. So they may appear to be overly pedantic 'Nazis' but I can assure you that they're simply trying to balance the demands of every individual that the association represents. In contrast I've yet to come across a project that was embroiled in anything like the difficulties and political nonsense we had to endure as committee members. I'd rather run a global project with Martians than return to being part of an association no matter how much we still managed to achieve. www.merrens.com
www.bkmrx.comHere in Tarrant County Texas wording has very explicit meaning. Homeowners associations are legal entities that may add building codes to the properties in there boundaries. Often there is a tax / fee to pay for lawyers, etc. Neighborhood associations are legal entities that represent the citizens to the city/county as a collective voice but may not impose any restrictions / codes. Only pass information and opinions / concerns between the parties. FYI I have served on our neighborhood association. They have requirements to pass information on and to meet on a regular basis in a publicly accessable location. In neither case would the association represent residents in disputes. "Every new day begins with possibilities. It's up to us to fill it with things that move us toward progress and peace.” (Ronald Reagan)
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The role of the HOA is to make sure that your fence complies with the standards of appearance set for your comunity in your HOA rules. As stated above, submit your plans, explain the situation, and wait for thier response of "Okay but next time submit the request first". As mentioned above, they do this on their own time and are not interested in doing something that take up more of thier time. They will probably just accept it. The risk is that if the fence does not met the HOA guidelines you could be asked/told to change it, but that would have been avoided if you had followed the procedures in the first place (misunderstandings about who was going to do it set aside). Check your contract with the guy who built your fence. Does it state that he will get all of the approvals/permits? If it does, you may be able to get him to make any needed changes.
Hang on - so this association can tell you what your home should look like? :wtf: Who are these people? Who elects them? Who regulates them? The tigress is here :-D
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Hang on - so this association can tell you what your home should look like? :wtf: Who are these people? Who elects them? Who regulates them? The tigress is here :-D
Sure - when we moved into this house we were given a set of guidelines for the types of things we could build on our property, how far from the property lines, colors we can use/not use. At first I did not like the idea - it is my house, I can do what I want. But over the years I have come to realize that I get more protection from it than inconvenience since I do not want to do anything on my property that would be considered an eye-sore. It protects the whole neighborhood from things that could drop property values. It can be annoying in some cases though. We are required to take down all Christmas decorations by Jan 30. Some times that has been a real difficult thing to do because of extensive travel. In recent news there was a wife of a reservists that put of a display in her yard showing her support for her husband - her HOA told her to take it down. I do not know what the result was. These people are elected by the community. They are residents of the community. They get no compensation. The are not all powerful - they just enforce the rules on the books. They can not make up their own rules and there is an arbitration process if I think they are beyond their rights. Overall I like it. But it does generate some big WTF's every now and then.
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Sure - when we moved into this house we were given a set of guidelines for the types of things we could build on our property, how far from the property lines, colors we can use/not use. At first I did not like the idea - it is my house, I can do what I want. But over the years I have come to realize that I get more protection from it than inconvenience since I do not want to do anything on my property that would be considered an eye-sore. It protects the whole neighborhood from things that could drop property values. It can be annoying in some cases though. We are required to take down all Christmas decorations by Jan 30. Some times that has been a real difficult thing to do because of extensive travel. In recent news there was a wife of a reservists that put of a display in her yard showing her support for her husband - her HOA told her to take it down. I do not know what the result was. These people are elected by the community. They are residents of the community. They get no compensation. The are not all powerful - they just enforce the rules on the books. They can not make up their own rules and there is an arbitration process if I think they are beyond their rights. Overall I like it. But it does generate some big WTF's every now and then.
Bob Flynn wrote:
they just enforce the rules on the books.
Bob Flynn wrote:
They can not make up their own rules
Contradition here. If they can not make up the rules, then the books are empty. I am not saying the officers make up the rules, the association does. They are enforcing rules beyond the codes set by the city/county. You are right some people very much prefer that enviroment and fine. Do not move into one if you do not like that enviroment. "Every new day begins with possibilities. It's up to us to fill it with things that move us toward progress and peace.” (Ronald Reagan)
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dan neely wrote:
Normal shelters don't have crewserved weapons though.
Normal Northern shelters don't have crewserved weapons though. Is that what you ment? "Every new day begins with possibilities. It's up to us to fill it with things that move us toward progress and peace.” (Ronald Reagan)
Michael A. Barnhart wrote:
Normal Northern shelters don't have crewserved weapons though. Is that what you ment?
I meant what I wrote. Granted the south has higher gun ownership and would be more likely to have a rifle or three inside, but the machineguns John mentioned have loads of extra ATF hassles/fees involved and aren't common anywhere outside of hte military.
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Bob Flynn wrote:
they just enforce the rules on the books.
Bob Flynn wrote:
They can not make up their own rules
Contradition here. If they can not make up the rules, then the books are empty. I am not saying the officers make up the rules, the association does. They are enforcing rules beyond the codes set by the city/county. You are right some people very much prefer that enviroment and fine. Do not move into one if you do not like that enviroment. "Every new day begins with possibilities. It's up to us to fill it with things that move us toward progress and peace.” (Ronald Reagan)
Michael A. Barnhart wrote:
Contradition here. If they can not make up the rules, then the books are empty. I am not saying the officers make up the rules, the association does. They are enforcing rules beyond the codes set by the city/county.
Right and wrong. I was talking about the officers/committees that we have to submit building permits to. If I do not like red trees, I can not get onto the committee and then add a rule to prohibit red trees. My role as a volunteer on the committee is to enforce the rules in the HOA guidelines. We also have a property management company where we could appeal any improper decisions (IMO) by the committee/officers. The entire community has to accept new rules or changes.
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Michael A. Barnhart wrote:
Normal Northern shelters don't have crewserved weapons though. Is that what you ment?
I meant what I wrote. Granted the south has higher gun ownership and would be more likely to have a rifle or three inside, but the machineguns John mentioned have loads of extra ATF hassles/fees involved and aren't common anywhere outside of hte military.
You can probably get a decent used MG (with bipod) on eBay. :) ------- sig starts "I've heard some drivers saying, 'We're going too fast here...'. If you're not here to race, go the hell home - don't come here and grumble about going too fast. Why don't you tie a kerosene rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001
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In Idaho things are still a bit different than elsewhere. Here community still means *A LOT* to a lot of people. That's why Boise is always in the top 5 of places to move. Yes, we get all the idiots but the natives bring them up to speed pretty quick. HOA's here aren't bad. Inbound Californian's with a screw you attitude cause way more trouble.
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code-frog wrote:
Inbound Californian's
Sounds like ballistic weapon. :) Marc Pensieve Functional Entanglement vs. Code Entanglement Static Classes Make For Rigid Architectures
