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  • N Nish Nishant

    espeir wrote:

    I don't think he picked a religion.

    Not directly, but implicitly he did - and some of the Christians got pissed. Regards, Nish


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    Jeremy Falcon
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    It's the Mormons that do that over here, not the Christians btw. Jeremy Falcon

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    • V Vincent Reynolds

      Yes. You saw right through me. I'm advocating Christian genocide -- all religions, actually -- to further my goal of creating a new, pure, LEFTIST, Marxist, socialist, communist, atheist, evolutionist, scientist, secular humanist authoritarian utopia. Of course, that would include killing everyone who belongs to my religion, including myself, but you can't make an omelet without breaking eggs, right? I'm thinking about calling it Stanistan, just to piss Stan off. Besides, Espeiria sounds too much like a flower, or maybe a tropical disease.

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      Jeremy Falcon
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      :laugh: That was a better joke than the original post. Jeremy Falcon

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      • V Vincent Reynolds

        Yes. You saw right through me. I'm advocating Christian genocide -- all religions, actually -- to further my goal of creating a new, pure, LEFTIST, Marxist, socialist, communist, atheist, evolutionist, scientist, secular humanist authoritarian utopia. Of course, that would include killing everyone who belongs to my religion, including myself, but you can't make an omelet without breaking eggs, right? I'm thinking about calling it Stanistan, just to piss Stan off. Besides, Espeiria sounds too much like a flower, or maybe a tropical disease.

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        Vikram A Punathambekar
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        Hilarious! :laugh: Too bad it's too big for a sig. :( Cheers, Vikram.


        I don't know and you don't either. Militant Agnostic

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        • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

          It's funny how certain religions gets more exposure than others. Especially so when there must be almost as many hindus as there are muslims for instance. Are there half a billion hindus, would you say? The only fanaticism coming from hinduism that I know of, is the mistreatment of women in some instances where marriages have gone awry. Well, the pre-arranged weddings is a bit hard to understand from my point of view, but I suppose that could just as well be attributed to a totally different culture, instead of being attributed to fanaticism.

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          Vikram A Punathambekar
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          Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote:

          Well, the pre-arranged weddings is a bit hard to understand from my point of view, but I suppose that could just as well be attributed to a totally different culture, instead of being attributed to fanaticism.

          I don't see what fanaticism has to do with arranged marriages. :~ Cheers, Vikram.


          I don't know and you don't either. Militant Agnostic

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            Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote:

            Well, the pre-arranged weddings is a bit hard to understand from my point of view, but I suppose that could just as well be attributed to a totally different culture, instead of being attributed to fanaticism.

            I don't see what fanaticism has to do with arranged marriages. :~ Cheers, Vikram.


            I don't know and you don't either. Militant Agnostic

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            Jorgen Sigvardsson
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            The enforcement of pre-arranged marriages may seem fanatic for the outsider. I'm sure the penalties for not marrying are quite strict! By the way, is the pre-arranged marriage concept tied into Hinduism, or is it just a product of culture? I'm really not sure. :~

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            • C Colin Angus Mackay

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              militant atheists like yourself who are constantly tring to shove your belief system down other peoples' throats

              I think you mean "disbelief system" ColinMackay.net Scottish Developers are looking for speakers for user group sessions over the next few months. Do you want to know more?

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              Jorgen Sigvardsson
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              Who cares about the finer points of semantics, when you've got God on your side? :rolleyes:

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              • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

                The enforcement of pre-arranged marriages may seem fanatic for the outsider. I'm sure the penalties for not marrying are quite strict! By the way, is the pre-arranged marriage concept tied into Hinduism, or is it just a product of culture? I'm really not sure. :~

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                Vikram A Punathambekar
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                Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote:

                The enforcement of pre-arranged marriages may seem fanatic for the outsider.

                In that case, you're not talking about arranged marriages; you're talking about forced marriages. I agree, it happens here. :|

                Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote:

                By the way, is the pre-arranged marriage concept tied into Hinduism

                I don't know if arranged marriages are tied to Hinduism, although love marriages are certainly not antithetic to Hinduism. Our epics have a lot of love marriages (and even eloping episodes :) ) too, though. Cheers, Vikram.


                I don't know and you don't either. Militant Agnostic

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                • V Vincent Reynolds

                  Yes. You saw right through me. I'm advocating Christian genocide -- all religions, actually -- to further my goal of creating a new, pure, LEFTIST, Marxist, socialist, communist, atheist, evolutionist, scientist, secular humanist authoritarian utopia. Of course, that would include killing everyone who belongs to my religion, including myself, but you can't make an omelet without breaking eggs, right? I'm thinking about calling it Stanistan, just to piss Stan off. Besides, Espeiria sounds too much like a flower, or maybe a tropical disease.

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                  Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                  Vinnie for pres! :-D

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                  • C Colin Angus Mackay

                    Strictly speaking an athiest doesn't necessarily place their faith in science. They just don't place their faith in theistic dogma. a-: Without; not -theist: one who believes in the existence of a god or gods := one who does not believe in the existance of a god or gods ColinMackay.net Scottish Developers are looking for speakers for user group sessions over the next few months. Do you want to know more?

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                    Red Stateler
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                    Colin Angus Mackay wrote:

                    Strictly speaking an athiest doesn't necessarily place their faith in science.

                    My statement made no such assumption. However, in practice it is commonplace.

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                    • C Colin Angus Mackay

                      espeir wrote:

                      militant atheists like yourself who are constantly tring to shove your belief system down other peoples' throats

                      I think you mean "disbelief system" ColinMackay.net Scottish Developers are looking for speakers for user group sessions over the next few months. Do you want to know more?

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                      Red Stateler
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                      No...I was clear in my meaning.

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                      • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

                        I think it is evident that muslim and christian fanatics think the same. Say anything against their precious beliefs, and you're the vilest creature on earth. Luckily, countries in which christianity has rooted itself, secular governments have been established, thus preventing theocratic law enforcement. Living in fear can't be good.

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                        Red Stateler
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                        Kind of like when I mention...ahem...evolution?

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                        • R Red Stateler

                          Colin Angus Mackay wrote:

                          Strictly speaking an athiest doesn't necessarily place their faith in science.

                          My statement made no such assumption. However, in practice it is commonplace.

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                          espeir wrote:

                          My statement made no such assumption

                          espeir wrote:

                          Let's leave not leave out atheists who place their faith in science while being ignorant of its details.

                          There is quite a strong implication here that atheists place their faith in science. If that was not the intent of your statement then I would suggest form of wording: Let's leave not leave out the type of atheists that place their faith in science while being ignorant of its details. ColinMackay.net Scottish Developers are looking for speakers for user group sessions over the next few months. Do you want to know more?

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                          • R Red Stateler

                            No...I was clear in my meaning.

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                            Colin Angus Mackay
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                            As has been demonstrated elsewhere you have a severe disability when it comes to detecting humour. ColinMackay.net Scottish Developers are looking for speakers for user group sessions over the next few months. Do you want to know more?

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                              It's the Mormons that do that over here, not the Christians btw. Jeremy Falcon

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                              TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                              Jeremy Falcon wrote:

                              Mormons

                              Jeremy Falcon wrote:

                              not the Christians

                              Mormons are Christians

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                              • C Colin Angus Mackay

                                espeir wrote:

                                My statement made no such assumption

                                espeir wrote:

                                Let's leave not leave out atheists who place their faith in science while being ignorant of its details.

                                There is quite a strong implication here that atheists place their faith in science. If that was not the intent of your statement then I would suggest form of wording: Let's leave not leave out the type of atheists that place their faith in science while being ignorant of its details. ColinMackay.net Scottish Developers are looking for speakers for user group sessions over the next few months. Do you want to know more?

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                                Red Stateler
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                                My wording was correct. Your interpretation of it was not. Not all atheists blindly place their faith in science, but I have to say that a majority do. You need an extremely detailed understanding of what science has provided us in order to make an educated and faithless jusgement that it provides the answers that most atheists believe it does. Naturally, most atheists do not have the requisite level of knowledge and therefore place faith in science in the same way that the religious place faith in religion.

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                                • C Colin Angus Mackay

                                  As has been demonstrated elsewhere you have a severe disability when it comes to detecting humour. ColinMackay.net Scottish Developers are looking for speakers for user group sessions over the next few months. Do you want to know more?

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                                  Red Stateler
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                                  I admit I have a problem with this when something simply isn't funny. Part of having a good sense of humor is being able to discern between what is funny and what is not...Not simply finding everything funny.

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                                    My wording was correct. Your interpretation of it was not. Not all atheists blindly place their faith in science, but I have to say that a majority do. You need an extremely detailed understanding of what science has provided us in order to make an educated and faithless jusgement that it provides the answers that most atheists believe it does. Naturally, most atheists do not have the requisite level of knowledge and therefore place faith in science in the same way that the religious place faith in religion.

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                                    Colin Angus Mackay
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                                    espeir wrote:

                                    My wording was correct. Your interpretation of it was not.

                                    Your wording was ambiguous at best. Perhaps you should spend more time crafting your sentences before attacking others for misinterpreting what you said. ColinMackay.net Scottish Developers are looking for speakers for user group sessions over the next few months. Do you want to know more?

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                                      I admit I have a problem with this when something simply isn't funny. Part of having a good sense of humor is being able to discern between what is funny and what is not...Not simply finding everything funny.

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                                      Colin Angus Mackay
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                                      espeir wrote:

                                      Part of having a good sense of humor is being able to discern between what is funny and what is not

                                      Pity you don't have that part. ColinMackay.net Scottish Developers are looking for speakers for user group sessions over the next few months. Do you want to know more?

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                                      • C Colin Angus Mackay

                                        espeir wrote:

                                        My wording was correct. Your interpretation of it was not.

                                        Your wording was ambiguous at best. Perhaps you should spend more time crafting your sentences before attacking others for misinterpreting what you said. ColinMackay.net Scottish Developers are looking for speakers for user group sessions over the next few months. Do you want to know more?

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                                        Red Stateler
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                                        Again, there is nothing wrong with or ambiguous about my statement. Any misinterpretation is just the result of your failure to comprehend a very straightforward sentence. It was succinct and correct. Perhaps that's why you find it so unsettling. I do not feel compelled to craft my sentences to a lowest common denominator.

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                                        • C Colin Angus Mackay

                                          espeir wrote:

                                          Part of having a good sense of humor is being able to discern between what is funny and what is not

                                          Pity you don't have that part. ColinMackay.net Scottish Developers are looking for speakers for user group sessions over the next few months. Do you want to know more?

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                                          Red Stateler
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                                          Well...We know that I have an ability to detect a lack of humor. You have yet to test my ability to detect the presence of humor.

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