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  • M Marc Clifton

    Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:

    And yet you have no problem with killing animals for meat?

    That's nature. Maiming animals for scientific research is man-made. Marc Pensieve Functional Entanglement vs. Code Entanglement Static Classes Make For Rigid Architectures

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    Vikram A Punathambekar
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    Marc Clifton wrote:

    That's nature.

    I view it as a choice. [shrug] Cheers, Vikram.


    I don't know and you don't either. Militant Agnostic

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    • H hairy_hats

      digital man wrote:

      I have trouble understanding people's reluctance to use animals for medical research.

      Suppose it hadn't worked? We'd have had to pay for life-long care and support for a blind hamster. Where would you draw the line - would it be acceptable to blind 10 or 100 or 1,000 or 1,000,000 hamsters in the pursuit of this line of research? Suppose you maimed all those animals and it turned out to be a blind alley and they had been abused for no gain?

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      TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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      viaduct wrote:

      pay for life-long care and support for a blind hamster

      nah, just terminate it and burn the evidence. -- LOL just kidding. yeah, it's a tough situation. but if the blinding was done in a non-painful, humane way for the purpose of potentially helping blind people, then I'm all for it.

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      • R R Giskard Reventlov

        Nanotech helps blind hamsters see[^] www.merrens.com
        www.bkmrx.com

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        TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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        Yes, damned amazing!

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        • R R Giskard Reventlov

          Another good point with which I whole-heartedly agree. Maybe barring the hamster eating part. Maybe they're like soft-shelled crabs and you just pop a cooked one in your mouth, bite and swallow? Did try hedgehog once. Not bad. www.merrens.com
          www.bkmrx.com

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          Ashley van Gerven
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          digital man wrote:

          Did try hedgehog once.

          The cool thing with hedgehogs is they come with tooth-picks ;P

          "... This man is obviously a psychotic." "We-he-ell, uh, I'd like to hold off judgement on a thing like that, sir, until all the facts are in." (Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb)

          ~ ScrollingGrid (cross-browser freeze-header control)

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          • H hairy_hats

            digital man wrote:

            I have trouble understanding people's reluctance to use animals for medical research.

            Suppose it hadn't worked? We'd have had to pay for life-long care and support for a blind hamster. Where would you draw the line - would it be acceptable to blind 10 or 100 or 1,000 or 1,000,000 hamsters in the pursuit of this line of research? Suppose you maimed all those animals and it turned out to be a blind alley and they had been abused for no gain?

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            Ashley van Gerven
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            viaduct wrote:

            turned out to be a blind alley

            Nice choice of words :)

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            • S Sean Cundiff

              ihoecken wrote:

              well if some aliens would come or a higher race will grew on earth, do you like to be an "human test animal" for them?

              I will volunteer for the sexual compatibility testing. :-> -Sean ---- Shag a Lizard

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              Ashley van Gerven
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              You sure about that? http://www.stampede-entertainment.com/postcards/monstermakers/alien-1-pl.jpg[^] ;P

              "... This man is obviously a psychotic." "We-he-ell, uh, I'd like to hold off judgement on a thing like that, sir, until all the facts are in." (Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb)

              ~ ScrollingGrid (cross-browser freeze-header control)

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              • R Ryan Roberts

                Is it better if you eat them afterwards? They probably make good kebabs. Personaly, I would sacrifice a million rodents to restore the sight of a single human being. Ryan

                "Michael Moore and Mel Gibson are the same person, except for a few sit-ups. Moore thought his cheesy political blooper reel was going to tell people how to vote. Mel thought that his little gay SM movie about his imaginary friend was going to help him get to heaven." - Penn Jillette

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                Ashley van Gerven
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                I wish I could find the picture on google... but there was a program I saw a while back where this "artist" woman had somehow preserved hundreds of rats and glued them together in a big ball! :~ Looked quite freaky actually

                "... This man is obviously a psychotic." "We-he-ell, uh, I'd like to hold off judgement on a thing like that, sir, until all the facts are in." (Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb)

                ~ ScrollingGrid (cross-browser freeze-header control)

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                • R R Giskard Reventlov

                  Nanotech helps blind hamsters see[^] www.merrens.com
                  www.bkmrx.com

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                  Peter Redding
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                  I'm just reading Prey by Michael Crichton which is about a swarm of nanoparticles that go haywire. Spooky :omg:

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                  • B Blake Miller

                    One - simple - question... What makes you so sure you are not already a 'human test animal'? If you beleive in a supreme being, I would find it rather interesting that you have not considered this possibility already. People that start writing code immediately are programmers (or hackers), people that ask questions first are Software Engineers - Graham Shanks

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                    hairy_hats
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                    Blake Miller wrote:

                    What makes you so sure you are not already a 'human test animal'?

                    And see what can happen to those who are...

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                    • P Peter Redding

                      I'm just reading Prey by Michael Crichton which is about a swarm of nanoparticles that go haywire. Spooky :omg:

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                      Bassam Abdul Baki
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                      I read that on an airplane. Excellent book. "If only one person knows the truth, it is still the truth." - Mahatma Gandhi Web - Blog - RSS - Math

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                      • B Bassam Abdul Baki

                        I read that on an airplane. Excellent book. "If only one person knows the truth, it is still the truth." - Mahatma Gandhi Web - Blog - RSS - Math

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                        Peter Redding
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                        It seems very well researched as well (as are most of his books). Two and a half pages for the bibliography! A friend of mine read Airframe just before he had to fly to the USA for a holiday. D'oh!

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