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  • R R Giskard Reventlov

    Decent contract rates are now between 450-600 per day in the city, depending on skills and experience. JobServe[^] You do the math... www.merrens.com
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    Shaun Wilde
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    Do not believe all you read on jobserve - experience of the contract market is that 50% of these jobs are agent CV phishing expeditions or a client has asked an agent to just check when they are in the planning phase and the actual job just vanishes as quick as it appeared.

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    • H HakunaMatada

      Paul Watson wrote:

      If you want to live on 2 minute noodles and water, sure

      :omg: Really??? Ok let me tell you the whole story. I hold a BNO passport (British National Overseas) and I am thinking of looking for a job there. Now, I checked out some sites on Software Development jobs in the UK and they pay in the range of 40000 pounds anually.(So low!) I also found out that after tax cuts, I would be getting just 2500 pounds a month. Is this true? Could anyone tell me why Software developers are so lowly paid in UK? :( --- With best regards, A Manchester United Fan The Genius of a true fool is that he can mess up a foolproof plan!

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      Johnny
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      Well, I'm not sure where you are from to think that 40K is low, but it seems pretty good in most places in the world, and double the average US and UK salary. Contrary to what everyone else here seems to be saying, you can live in London on half that wage (I know, I've done it!) and still have a great quality of life (without any noodles too). Sure it helps if you have more, but the majority of Londoners manage on less. Living outside London reduces your expenses, but generally also reduces the wage. It all really depends on your requirements (family, age, lifestyle etc). Living in another country is a great experience, so I'd recommend it no matter how tight money is!

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      • H HakunaMatada

        Can any CPian from the UK tell me what the cost of living in the UK is? I mean if I have to rent a place, fooding, entertainment and everything.. Thanks...:) --- With best regards, A Manchester United Fan The Genius of a true fool is that he can mess up a foolproof plan!

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        Lost User
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        Go to Rightmove[^], this website lets you look around the country for properties for sale and to let (rent). Remember to ask about areas within cities as they vart a lot. Elaine :rose: The tigress is here :-D

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        • J James Simpson

          Guildford is a 45 minute commute into waterloo and a nice 2 bedroom will rent for £700-800 per month + £200 Train fees to london, £120 council tax, £30 telephone + broadband, £30 Mobile telephone £40 sky (maybe!) £30-50 gas electricity + water, £12 tv liscense £12 insurance 4 pints of beer £12 (say 16 pints a month £48) a pizza in somewhere like pizza express probably about £15, food bills who knows how much you eat :) £70 per week probably sounds ok So, I would say that £2300 after tax is ok to live on if your working in london and commuting from somewhere like guildford. If you are a beer monster, then you may find your savings being sucked away very quickly! James Simpson Web Developer imebgo@hotmail.com P S - This is what part of the alphabet would look like if Q and R were eliminated
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          Colin Angus Mackay
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          James Simpson wrote:

          £120 council tax

          Council tax is cheap in Guildford! I pay £134 with a single occupancy discount. It would be ~£170 otherwise.

          James Simpson wrote:

          £30-50 gas electricity + water

          That's cheap. I pay £85 just for Gas + Electric. ColinMackay.net Scottish Developers are looking for speakers for user group sessions over the next few months. Do you want to know more?

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          • H HakunaMatada

            Can any CPian from the UK tell me what the cost of living in the UK is? I mean if I have to rent a place, fooding, entertainment and everything.. Thanks...:) --- With best regards, A Manchester United Fan The Genius of a true fool is that he can mess up a foolproof plan!

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            Giles
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            Depends where you live. 5 miles out of central London, would expect to be paying ~£1200 a month for a 1 bed flat that is okay. Food, I normally spend £300-£400 a month. Entertainment, well that depends on what you like. If you have a penchent for strippers then its going to get fairly pricey. A car and fuel is expensive. Tube tickets for zone 1-3 (~5 mile, ~30 minute radius) is about £100 a month. And council tax and the rest. Adds up. I'm guessing you are going to totally under estimate how much is costs to live here. Obviously you can spend a lot less than this if you want to by sharing a larger flat etc.

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            • R R Giskard Reventlov

              Decent contract rates are now between 450-600 per day in the city, depending on skills and experience. JobServe[^] You do the math... www.merrens.com
              www.bkmrx.com

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              Anna Jayne Metcalfe
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              True in some cases, but such posts aren't that common. They are also very specialised, and likely to be highly pressured. More typical rates in the SouthEast/SouthWest are £25-£35/hour. That's a big difference - especially as these figures are gross rather than net. Anna :rose: Currently working mostly on: Visual Lint :cool: Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work.

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              • H HakunaMatada

                RichardGrimmer wrote:

                What makes you think that 40k is LOW??!?!?!?!?....MY GOD!!!!! How much are you earning at the moment? As a developer, I earn up to 3 TIMES what my friends earn!

                No. I meant its low by living standards in the UK. As, I told you, 40K p.a. roughly comes to 2400 p.m with tax cuts and some have posted that an apartment costs 2000 pounds. That was what I was talking about. Now, if an apartment costs 2000 pounds then is 2400 p.m. sufficient? That was what I was talking about. :) --- With best regards, A Manchester United Fan The Genius of a true fool is that he can mess up a foolproof plan!

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                RichardGrimmer
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                I see your point - but to put things into context, rental of £2K is ridiculously high compared to the rest of the ~UK....I used to pay £360 / month for a 2-bed, and in my hometown, you're looking at about £700 for a 5-bedroom country cottage in 3 acres of gardens... "Now I guess I'll sit back and watch people misinterpret what I just said......" Christian Graus At The Soapbox

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                • H HakunaMatada

                  God. Is that so?:omg: --- With best regards, A Manchester United Fan The Genius of a true fool is that he can mess up a foolproof plan!

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                  Anna Jayne Metcalfe
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                  Yes, it is. The tax system is progressive and complex, but easy to work out if you have the Employers CD HMRC give out each year. ;) I came to the conclusion long ago that the only way to get rich in this game is to go it alone - or take a big stake in the right company when its just starting up. Both are incredibly risky and can be very, very expensive! Most of us do development because we enjoy it....and believe me, it's far better paid than most professions. Most of my old friends earn around half what I did when I was working permanent. Anna :rose: Currently working mostly on: Visual Lint :cool: Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work.

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                  • C Colin Angus Mackay

                    James Simpson wrote:

                    £120 council tax

                    Council tax is cheap in Guildford! I pay £134 with a single occupancy discount. It would be ~£170 otherwise.

                    James Simpson wrote:

                    £30-50 gas electricity + water

                    That's cheap. I pay £85 just for Gas + Electric. ColinMackay.net Scottish Developers are looking for speakers for user group sessions over the next few months. Do you want to know more?

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                    Stuart Dootson
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                    Colin Angus Mackay wrote:

                    Council tax is cheap in Guildford!

                    Not compared to Derby - I'm paying less than £60 per month (2-bed house, single occupancy discount).

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                    • H HakunaMatada

                      Can any CPian from the UK tell me what the cost of living in the UK is? I mean if I have to rent a place, fooding, entertainment and everything.. Thanks...:) --- With best regards, A Manchester United Fan The Genius of a true fool is that he can mess up a foolproof plan!

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                      Chris Grey
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                      This site will allow you to view what your cost of living in your current location is in comparison to other cities. http://www.homefair.com/homefair/calc/salcalc.html Most US cities are in there and the capital city of most countries too. Chris

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                      • A Anna Jayne Metcalfe

                        Yes, it is. The tax system is progressive and complex, but easy to work out if you have the Employers CD HMRC give out each year. ;) I came to the conclusion long ago that the only way to get rich in this game is to go it alone - or take a big stake in the right company when its just starting up. Both are incredibly risky and can be very, very expensive! Most of us do development because we enjoy it....and believe me, it's far better paid than most professions. Most of my old friends earn around half what I did when I was working permanent. Anna :rose: Currently working mostly on: Visual Lint :cool: Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work.

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                        Ian Drew
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                        People live in and around London on all sorts of income. Take all the Aussies that live on £4 / hour bar jobs, you still see them having a great time. London is a great place to live and work, you just have to live to your means. The more you earn the closer to the centre you can afford to live. If you get a house share then it would be more than affordable on that income, depending on how often and where you go out. Ian, now living just outside London.

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                        • H HakunaMatada

                          Can any CPian from the UK tell me what the cost of living in the UK is? I mean if I have to rent a place, fooding, entertainment and everything.. Thanks...:) --- With best regards, A Manchester United Fan The Genius of a true fool is that he can mess up a foolproof plan!

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                          Shahil Shah
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                          I dont think anyone's really answered your question so here goes: (answer based if your gonna be in london or south east where most software jobs are) Approx £1000 for rent per month (for 1 bedroom flat excluding gas/electricity/water/council bills) Approx £150 for travel per month (using public transport only) Approx £20 for food shopping per week Approx £3 for a pint of beer at a decent bar Approx £15 for entry to a decent nightclub of course this is an approximation but as u can see the most you will spend is on rent/travel Hope this helps Shahil

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                          • J J4amieC

                            Yes, the most I ever earnt in a permanent development position was £55,000 and that was hugely overpaid for the particular market. Even £40K is a good salary in the UK, most normal office jobs run in the £18-30K range - so you will be about as well off as newly qualified Lawyers, newly qualified doctors etc. However, contracting has earnt me ~20% more, but ive only been doing it 6 months and not had a tax bill yet :-|

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                            JimAtImpac
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                            So what is the average rent for a one bedroom apartment and what is the median home price in London? Jim

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