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    Dario Solera
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    No excuse. Seal hunt[^] EDIT: I don't hate Canadians. I think that Canadian governement should forbid that kind of "economic activity". ___________________________________ Tozzi is right: Gaia is getting rid of us. My Blog [ITA] -- modified at 14:48 Tuesday 28th March, 2006

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      No excuse. Seal hunt[^] EDIT: I don't hate Canadians. I think that Canadian governement should forbid that kind of "economic activity". ___________________________________ Tozzi is right: Gaia is getting rid of us. My Blog [ITA] -- modified at 14:48 Tuesday 28th March, 2006

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      Jeremy Falcon
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      Ok, that was gross. WTF were they doing that for? Any info? It obviously wasn't for food. People that harm living creatures for the sheer pleasure of it are disgusting IMO. Jeremy Falcon

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        No excuse. Seal hunt[^] EDIT: I don't hate Canadians. I think that Canadian governement should forbid that kind of "economic activity". ___________________________________ Tozzi is right: Gaia is getting rid of us. My Blog [ITA] -- modified at 14:48 Tuesday 28th March, 2006

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        Jeremy Falcon
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        BTW, I don't know the reasons for that video. But, I'd wager at least some Canadians aren't for the needless torture of animals. Jeremy Falcon

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          Ok, that was gross. WTF were they doing that for? Any info? It obviously wasn't for food. People that harm living creatures for the sheer pleasure of it are disgusting IMO. Jeremy Falcon

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          Allah On Acid
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          They hunt the seals and beat them to death, because it is a sport there, and they use the furs to make coats.

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            They hunt the seals and beat them to death, because it is a sport there, and they use the furs to make coats.

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            Jeremy Falcon
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            Pumk1nh3ad wrote:

            They hunt the seals and beat them to death, because it is a sport there, and they use the furs to make coats.

            I just don't see how people can get a kick out of beating an animal senseless for no reason at all. I mean, I'm not a pro-animal activist by any means, but seeing the seals in that video just breaks my heart. Jeremy Falcon

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              Pumk1nh3ad wrote:

              They hunt the seals and beat them to death, because it is a sport there, and they use the furs to make coats.

              I just don't see how people can get a kick out of beating an animal senseless for no reason at all. I mean, I'm not a pro-animal activist by any means, but seeing the seals in that video just breaks my heart. Jeremy Falcon

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              Allah On Acid
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              That is pretty stupid to torture and beat them like that.

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                BTW, I don't know the reasons for that video. But, I'd wager at least some Canadians aren't for the needless torture of animals. Jeremy Falcon

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                73Zeppelin
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                It's the annual seal harvest. We wouldn't be doing it if there wasn't an international demand for seal products. Personally, I am totally opposed to it. I think it's cruel and unnecessary. But somebody somewhere is creating a market for demand so it will continue until it is no longer profitable. The main market is for furs. Largest importers are Norway, Germany, Greenland, and China. Other importing countries include Finland, Denmark, France, Hong Kong, Greece, South Korea, and Russia. So you can see the problem in stopping it. Bash Canada, sure. The men doing it live in very poor northern communities. The hunt is a source of income to a depressed area. If it's going to stop, then international demand has to stop. The demand is purely vanity driven. BTW: It's not just Canada. Other nations include: Norway, Greenland, Russia and Namibia.

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                  They hunt the seals and beat them to death, because it is a sport there, and they use the furs to make coats.

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                  73Zeppelin
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                  Pumk1nh3ad wrote:

                  because it is a sport there

                  No it's not.

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                    Pumk1nh3ad wrote:

                    They hunt the seals and beat them to death, because it is a sport there, and they use the furs to make coats.

                    I just don't see how people can get a kick out of beating an animal senseless for no reason at all. I mean, I'm not a pro-animal activist by any means, but seeing the seals in that video just breaks my heart. Jeremy Falcon

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                    73Zeppelin
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                    Jeremy Falcon wrote:

                    I just don't see how people can get a kick out of beating an animal senseless for no reason at all.

                    Not that I agree with it, but it's for the annual seal hunt. These aren't people amusing themselves on the weekend.

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                      It's the annual seal harvest. We wouldn't be doing it if there wasn't an international demand for seal products. Personally, I am totally opposed to it. I think it's cruel and unnecessary. But somebody somewhere is creating a market for demand so it will continue until it is no longer profitable. The main market is for furs. Largest importers are Norway, Germany, Greenland, and China. Other importing countries include Finland, Denmark, France, Hong Kong, Greece, South Korea, and Russia. So you can see the problem in stopping it. Bash Canada, sure. The men doing it live in very poor northern communities. The hunt is a source of income to a depressed area. If it's going to stop, then international demand has to stop. The demand is purely vanity driven. BTW: It's not just Canada. Other nations include: Norway, Greenland, Russia and Namibia.

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                      Jeremy Falcon
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                      thealj wrote:

                      It's the annual seal harvest.

                      Why not at least make it so that the seals are put to rest peacefully? Add whatever cost it takes to get the seals peacefully as an expense of doing business. I think killing animals for vanity is stupid, but that video is just inhumane.

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                      Bash Canada, sure.

                      I'm not, but I will bash the men (and people like them) in that video.

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                      The hunt is a source of income to a depressed area.

                      Hard times show the true measure of a man. Obviously these men are weak people. Jeremy Falcon

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                        Jeremy Falcon wrote:

                        I just don't see how people can get a kick out of beating an animal senseless for no reason at all.

                        Not that I agree with it, but it's for the annual seal hunt. These aren't people amusing themselves on the weekend.

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                        Jeremy Falcon
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                        thealj wrote:

                        These aren't people amusing themselves on the weekend.

                        Well you'd think they'd at least bother to find a decent way to get the seals. Jeremy Falcon

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                          No excuse. Seal hunt[^] EDIT: I don't hate Canadians. I think that Canadian governement should forbid that kind of "economic activity". ___________________________________ Tozzi is right: Gaia is getting rid of us. My Blog [ITA] -- modified at 14:48 Tuesday 28th March, 2006

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                          Dario Solera
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                          Note that I don't say "I hate Canadians". The government should forbid that massacre. ___________________________________ Tozzi is right: Gaia is getting rid of us. My Blog [ITA]

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                            thealj wrote:

                            It's the annual seal harvest.

                            Why not at least make it so that the seals are put to rest peacefully? Add whatever cost it takes to get the seals peacefully as an expense of doing business. I think killing animals for vanity is stupid, but that video is just inhumane.

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                            Bash Canada, sure.

                            I'm not, but I will bash the men (and people like them) in that video.

                            thealj wrote:

                            The hunt is a source of income to a depressed area.

                            Hard times show the true measure of a man. Obviously these men are weak people. Jeremy Falcon

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                            73Zeppelin
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                            Jeremy Falcon wrote:

                            Why not at least make it so that the seals are put to rest peacefully?

                            What other method do you suggest? Shooting them is not as effective for the same reasons that slaughterhouses do not use bullets to kill cows. Blunt force trauma to the head is the most effective method.

                            Jeremy Falcon wrote:

                            Hard times show the true measure of a man. Obviously these men are weak people.

                            Actually, I disagree with that, even though I am opposed to the hunt. They are poor fisherman with no other source of income. The population of seals is in the range of 5 million+ and threatens some of the fishery stocks as well. The official government statement can be found here: Seal hunt[^].

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                              Note that I don't say "I hate Canadians". The government should forbid that massacre. ___________________________________ Tozzi is right: Gaia is getting rid of us. My Blog [ITA]

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                              Jeremy Falcon
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                              Dario Solera wrote:

                              Note that I don't say "I hate Canadians".

                              True. Althought it was hard to tell at first with no description or nothing relating to the video in your post.

                              Dario Solera wrote:

                              The government should forbid that massacre.

                              Maybe I'm crazy, but I think that beating them like that is not the way to go about doing things. Jeremy Falcon

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                                No excuse. Seal hunt[^] EDIT: I don't hate Canadians. I think that Canadian governement should forbid that kind of "economic activity". ___________________________________ Tozzi is right: Gaia is getting rid of us. My Blog [ITA] -- modified at 14:48 Tuesday 28th March, 2006

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                                Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                                In this regard, Canada and Norway are very similar. :sigh: I can understand that the northern communities need to earn money some way, but do they have to be so friggin brutal!? There's gotta be less medieval ways of killing a seal.

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                                  Jeremy Falcon wrote:

                                  I just don't see how people can get a kick out of beating an animal senseless for no reason at all.

                                  Not that I agree with it, but it's for the annual seal hunt. These aren't people amusing themselves on the weekend.

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                                  Dario Solera
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                                  thealj wrote:

                                  These aren't people amusing themselves on the weekend.

                                  I hope so. Anyway, there are lots of ways to kill animals without make them suffer. For example the way that's used for cows (a nail in the skull -> istantaneous death). So, what is the seal's leather used for? Coats? :~ ___________________________________ Tozzi is right: Gaia is getting rid of us. My Blog [ITA]

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                                    It's the annual seal harvest. We wouldn't be doing it if there wasn't an international demand for seal products. Personally, I am totally opposed to it. I think it's cruel and unnecessary. But somebody somewhere is creating a market for demand so it will continue until it is no longer profitable. The main market is for furs. Largest importers are Norway, Germany, Greenland, and China. Other importing countries include Finland, Denmark, France, Hong Kong, Greece, South Korea, and Russia. So you can see the problem in stopping it. Bash Canada, sure. The men doing it live in very poor northern communities. The hunt is a source of income to a depressed area. If it's going to stop, then international demand has to stop. The demand is purely vanity driven. BTW: It's not just Canada. Other nations include: Norway, Greenland, Russia and Namibia.

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                                    Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                                    thealj wrote:

                                    Largest importers are Norway

                                    Aren't they exporters of seal stuff!? They kill seals just like these Canadians.

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                                      Note that I don't say "I hate Canadians". The government should forbid that massacre. ___________________________________ Tozzi is right: Gaia is getting rid of us. My Blog [ITA]

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                                      73Zeppelin
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                                      Dario Solera wrote:

                                      Note that I don't say "I hate Canadians".

                                      :)

                                      Dario Solera wrote:

                                      The government should forbid that massacre.

                                      Yeah, it's not pretty, but it's driven by an international demand for the fur. Mostly for use in fashion. Better to blame the people who create the market for the fur than the people doing the killing. No demand, no hunt.

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                                        Jeremy Falcon wrote:

                                        Why not at least make it so that the seals are put to rest peacefully?

                                        What other method do you suggest? Shooting them is not as effective for the same reasons that slaughterhouses do not use bullets to kill cows. Blunt force trauma to the head is the most effective method.

                                        Jeremy Falcon wrote:

                                        Hard times show the true measure of a man. Obviously these men are weak people.

                                        Actually, I disagree with that, even though I am opposed to the hunt. They are poor fisherman with no other source of income. The population of seals is in the range of 5 million+ and threatens some of the fishery stocks as well. The official government statement can be found here: Seal hunt[^].

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                                        Jeremy Falcon
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                                        thealj wrote:

                                        What other method do you suggest?

                                        I don't know, as I haven't studied the subject much. But, I bet you there is a better way if they'd bother to find it.

                                        thealj wrote:

                                        They are poor fisherman with no other source of income. The population of seals is in the range of 5 million+ and threatens some of the fishery stocks as well.

                                        That's not my point. The point was they are weak men to resort to such brutality. It's about having standards and some lines you don't cross just because you're poor. Jeremy Falcon

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                                          In this regard, Canada and Norway are very similar. :sigh: I can understand that the northern communities need to earn money some way, but do they have to be so friggin brutal!? There's gotta be less medieval ways of killing a seal.

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                                          73Zeppelin
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                                          Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote:

                                          There's gotta be less medieval ways of killing a seal.

                                          Apparently not. They do the same to cows in a slaughterhouse. According to research it is the most effective way and more efficient than a bullet. :sigh:

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