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There's your problem. It's not extactly nippy on my 6800 ultra. Needs a good shader model 3 card to be anywhere near playable. Or you could go get a 360. You could check out the hardware forums on elderscrolls.com though, they might have some ini tweaks to get you a few extra FPS. Its never going to shine on that card though. Ryan
"Michael Moore and Mel Gibson are the same person, except for a few sit-ups. Moore thought his cheesy political blooper reel was going to tell people how to vote. Mel thought that his little gay SM movie about his imaginary friend was going to help him get to heaven." - Penn Jillette
Allright, I was roaming on elders scroll web site. The video card is not even mentionned, too old... I think I might buy an other one tomorrow...
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Allright, I was roaming on elders scroll web site. The video card is not even mentionned, too old... I think I might buy an other one tomorrow...
The Geforce 6600GT is in a fair price range and it has PixelShader 3.0 , if you compare it with the 6800 Ultra which may be overkill in your case. I have a 6600GT and have yet to find a game I can't play! http://www.legitreviews.com/article.php?aid=159[^]
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The Geforce 6600GT is in a fair price range and it has PixelShader 3.0 , if you compare it with the 6800 Ultra which may be overkill in your case. I have a 6600GT and have yet to find a game I can't play! http://www.legitreviews.com/article.php?aid=159[^]
I have the same. It's never let me down yet! :)
Ryan
"Punctuality is only a virtue for those who aren't smart enough to think of good excuses for being late" John Nichol "Point Of Impact"
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The Geforce 6600GT is in a fair price range and it has PixelShader 3.0 , if you compare it with the 6800 Ultra which may be overkill in your case. I have a 6600GT and have yet to find a game I can't play! http://www.legitreviews.com/article.php?aid=159[^]
thanks for the tip!
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Allright, I was roaming on elders scroll web site. The video card is not even mentionned, too old... I think I might buy an other one tomorrow...
Make sure it fits your main board (if your gc is old I presuming your mobo wouldn't be the newest either, could be wrong), I tried doing this once and found that the end of the gc was overlapping with the power supply connection to the main board, wouldn't even sit into the slot (only one PCI-E slot on it). I had a radeon X850 Pro 256M (again PCI-E, but you can get AGP) and worked alright for FEAR (which is fairly intense on min specs), can then use ATITool to over clock it (and on some versions you can reflash the card to open up 4 more pipes, X850 has 12 by default), seems to have descent reviews....I put another gig of ram on mine an it does help but again its all down to the wonga...... Try 3DMark05 (or 06 if you really want to get depressed) and check your scores on their site.... in saying that I just installed an Nvidia 7800 GTX (seriously concidering going duali sli) Imp. 'Out of Office Auto Reply' The email server is unable to verify your server connection and is unable to deliver this mesage. Please restart your computer and try sending again. '(The beauty of this is that when you return, you can see how many in-du-viduals did this over and over).
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Make sure it fits your main board (if your gc is old I presuming your mobo wouldn't be the newest either, could be wrong), I tried doing this once and found that the end of the gc was overlapping with the power supply connection to the main board, wouldn't even sit into the slot (only one PCI-E slot on it). I had a radeon X850 Pro 256M (again PCI-E, but you can get AGP) and worked alright for FEAR (which is fairly intense on min specs), can then use ATITool to over clock it (and on some versions you can reflash the card to open up 4 more pipes, X850 has 12 by default), seems to have descent reviews....I put another gig of ram on mine an it does help but again its all down to the wonga...... Try 3DMark05 (or 06 if you really want to get depressed) and check your scores on their site.... in saying that I just installed an Nvidia 7800 GTX (seriously concidering going duali sli) Imp. 'Out of Office Auto Reply' The email server is unable to verify your server connection and is unable to deliver this mesage. Please restart your computer and try sending again. '(The beauty of this is that when you return, you can see how many in-du-viduals did this over and over).
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Make sure it fits your main board (if your gc is old I presuming your mobo wouldn't be the newest either, could be wrong), I tried doing this once and found that the end of the gc was overlapping with the power supply connection to the main board, wouldn't even sit into the slot (only one PCI-E slot on it). I had a radeon X850 Pro 256M (again PCI-E, but you can get AGP) and worked alright for FEAR (which is fairly intense on min specs), can then use ATITool to over clock it (and on some versions you can reflash the card to open up 4 more pipes, X850 has 12 by default), seems to have descent reviews....I put another gig of ram on mine an it does help but again its all down to the wonga...... Try 3DMark05 (or 06 if you really want to get depressed) and check your scores on their site.... in saying that I just installed an Nvidia 7800 GTX (seriously concidering going duali sli) Imp. 'Out of Office Auto Reply' The email server is unable to verify your server connection and is unable to deliver this mesage. Please restart your computer and try sending again. '(The beauty of this is that when you return, you can see how many in-du-viduals did this over and over).
Impega wrote:
Make sure it fits your main board
It's the problem, isn't it :~ Will check that... thanks!
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GeForce FX5200 with 128MB
There's your problem. It's not extactly nippy on my 6800 ultra. Needs a good shader model 3 card to be anywhere near playable. Or you could go get a 360. You could check out the hardware forums on elderscrolls.com though, they might have some ini tweaks to get you a few extra FPS. Its never going to shine on that card though. Ryan
"Michael Moore and Mel Gibson are the same person, except for a few sit-ups. Moore thought his cheesy political blooper reel was going to tell people how to vote. Mel thought that his little gay SM movie about his imaginary friend was going to help him get to heaven." - Penn Jillette
Anyone else think the last few years of 3D video cards have been a bit confusing? I honestly have no clue any longer what video card is good and which one is needed for game X, Y or Z. Back in Star Control days all you worried about was your CPU and your RAM. A better 2D video card did help but if you didn't have a great one the game still worked fine. Now though if you don't have a specific video card you might not be able to play the game no matter how good your CPU is or how much RAM you have. In other cases half of the visual delight that made you buy the game is disabled because you don't have a video card that isn't actually released yet. Even though the rest of your machine is a quad P4 4Ghz with 32Gb of RAM. Even the amount of RAM on a 3d card is not an indicator of how good it is or what games will work with it. All the confusing chipsets with their different capabilities and features. Frankly I have stopped buying games because I can never be sure it will work on my laptop (a P4 3.2Ghz 1Gb RAM but with a weak video card). I just want a nice, clear way of knowing if a game will work well or not. Minimum requirements don't help as a: they are a minimum and mean that the game will play but at 2FPS with all features turned off and b: the video chipset mentioned I have never even heard of never mind understood. A model 3 shader card? WTF? We need to go back to good old voxels. They were the solution to everything ;) regards, Paul Watson Ireland Feed Henry! K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!
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Anyone else think the last few years of 3D video cards have been a bit confusing? I honestly have no clue any longer what video card is good and which one is needed for game X, Y or Z. Back in Star Control days all you worried about was your CPU and your RAM. A better 2D video card did help but if you didn't have a great one the game still worked fine. Now though if you don't have a specific video card you might not be able to play the game no matter how good your CPU is or how much RAM you have. In other cases half of the visual delight that made you buy the game is disabled because you don't have a video card that isn't actually released yet. Even though the rest of your machine is a quad P4 4Ghz with 32Gb of RAM. Even the amount of RAM on a 3d card is not an indicator of how good it is or what games will work with it. All the confusing chipsets with their different capabilities and features. Frankly I have stopped buying games because I can never be sure it will work on my laptop (a P4 3.2Ghz 1Gb RAM but with a weak video card). I just want a nice, clear way of knowing if a game will work well or not. Minimum requirements don't help as a: they are a minimum and mean that the game will play but at 2FPS with all features turned off and b: the video chipset mentioned I have never even heard of never mind understood. A model 3 shader card? WTF? We need to go back to good old voxels. They were the solution to everything ;) regards, Paul Watson Ireland Feed Henry! K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!
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doI can ask you the same, Star Control? Voxel? -----------WTF? Think we have bit of a generation gap. Ye olde games were mainly software rendered, thats why the CPU and Memory made all the difference. I think you can actually set Half-Life 1 to software rendering mode, it's very ugly. So the processing power was moved to 3D display cards and known as hardware rendering. I agree that things are being made over-complicated but it's my guess that marketing is to blame for that due to the fierce competition between NVIDIA and ATI.:mad::mad:
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Anyone else think the last few years of 3D video cards have been a bit confusing? I honestly have no clue any longer what video card is good and which one is needed for game X, Y or Z. Back in Star Control days all you worried about was your CPU and your RAM. A better 2D video card did help but if you didn't have a great one the game still worked fine. Now though if you don't have a specific video card you might not be able to play the game no matter how good your CPU is or how much RAM you have. In other cases half of the visual delight that made you buy the game is disabled because you don't have a video card that isn't actually released yet. Even though the rest of your machine is a quad P4 4Ghz with 32Gb of RAM. Even the amount of RAM on a 3d card is not an indicator of how good it is or what games will work with it. All the confusing chipsets with their different capabilities and features. Frankly I have stopped buying games because I can never be sure it will work on my laptop (a P4 3.2Ghz 1Gb RAM but with a weak video card). I just want a nice, clear way of knowing if a game will work well or not. Minimum requirements don't help as a: they are a minimum and mean that the game will play but at 2FPS with all features turned off and b: the video chipset mentioned I have never even heard of never mind understood. A model 3 shader card? WTF? We need to go back to good old voxels. They were the solution to everything ;) regards, Paul Watson Ireland Feed Henry! K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!
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We need to go back to good old voxels.
Voxels?! Luxury! Back in the day 320 x 240 was the way to go. In fact, CGA was perfect for games. Who needs more than 4 colours? Who needs graphics anyway? All you need is a prompt where you can type things like "Look" and "North" Jokes aside I agree with you. Maybe I'm just getting old and too lazy to keep up with technology. I stopped caring when I last bought a Nvidia 5900 graphics card or something like that. I can't even remember anymore. I was looking at upgrading lately and I see there's things like PCI express and SLI's and whatnot. That means, new motherboard, new CPU, new graphics card(s), new morgage on the house (well if I had a house that is)... I just cant be bothered. I got a ps2 and a TV instead. At least if I ever get a PS3 I (hopefully) wont have to upgrade the TV. :sigh:
"Love is a snowmobile racing across the tundra and then suddenly it flips over, pinning you underneath. At night, the ice weasels come." I refuse to spend my life worrying about what I eat. There is no pleasure worth foregoing just for an extra three years in a geriatric ward.
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I just bought and installed Oblivion from Bethesda softwoks, and that's too damn slow... even with minimum resolution I can't play.... On the other hand this year I want to avoid expense as much as I could... I would need an hint on what I should improve in my computer to get decent performance. I have: AMD Sempron 2800+ 1Gb RAM 1.61GHz GeForce FX5200 with 128MB Now I am thinking if I upgrade just my video card, should that bring considerable change?
Well your first problem is your machine is under the recommend specs for the game. You two main issues with this game and your machine is your Sempron, and the video card. (and the 128 on the video card isn't helping) Though I have an AMD Athlon 2.0g, 1 gig of Ram, and a Ge-force 5700.. so you're not THAT much under. However, you are still under and Oblivion takes A LOT of graphics horse power. $200 at Fry's will net you a Ge-force 6800 (with 256 ram) that will do wonders for all your games. I just upgraded mine last week, and the difference is unbelievable. Anyway, your best bet is this: A) make sure you have plenty of HD space free for swap B) Turn off EVERYTHING (and I mean EVERYTHING) before running the game. You might want to use something like 'Smart Close' (http://www.bm-productions.tk/ (FREE)[^] in order to shut everything down automatically. C) be sure your drive is defragged. D) there's also some tweaks that you can do in the Oblivion INI file look here for that information: Oblivion Settings Guide[^] E) You will need to run the game in the lowest settings.. However, I've noticed that the game doesn't always KEEP those settings. So be sure to check them (both in the main launch menu, and in the load game menu) before play. F) make sure your texture settings are set to the lowest possible. Hope this and the Guide can help! -== The PogoWolf ==- Like a funkey muckin' a bootfall. http://www.pogowolf.com GamersVue: ttp://GamersVue.blogger.com
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I just bought and installed Oblivion from Bethesda softwoks, and that's too damn slow... even with minimum resolution I can't play.... On the other hand this year I want to avoid expense as much as I could... I would need an hint on what I should improve in my computer to get decent performance. I have: AMD Sempron 2800+ 1Gb RAM 1.61GHz GeForce FX5200 with 128MB Now I am thinking if I upgrade just my video card, should that bring considerable change?
You can check your hardware setup against a number of different games at http://www.srtest.com/referrer/srtest[^]
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I just bought and installed Oblivion from Bethesda softwoks, and that's too damn slow... even with minimum resolution I can't play.... On the other hand this year I want to avoid expense as much as I could... I would need an hint on what I should improve in my computer to get decent performance. I have: AMD Sempron 2800+ 1Gb RAM 1.61GHz GeForce FX5200 with 128MB Now I am thinking if I upgrade just my video card, should that bring considerable change?
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Anyone else think the last few years of 3D video cards have been a bit confusing? I honestly have no clue any longer what video card is good and which one is needed for game X, Y or Z. Back in Star Control days all you worried about was your CPU and your RAM. A better 2D video card did help but if you didn't have a great one the game still worked fine. Now though if you don't have a specific video card you might not be able to play the game no matter how good your CPU is or how much RAM you have. In other cases half of the visual delight that made you buy the game is disabled because you don't have a video card that isn't actually released yet. Even though the rest of your machine is a quad P4 4Ghz with 32Gb of RAM. Even the amount of RAM on a 3d card is not an indicator of how good it is or what games will work with it. All the confusing chipsets with their different capabilities and features. Frankly I have stopped buying games because I can never be sure it will work on my laptop (a P4 3.2Ghz 1Gb RAM but with a weak video card). I just want a nice, clear way of knowing if a game will work well or not. Minimum requirements don't help as a: they are a minimum and mean that the game will play but at 2FPS with all features turned off and b: the video chipset mentioned I have never even heard of never mind understood. A model 3 shader card? WTF? We need to go back to good old voxels. They were the solution to everything ;) regards, Paul Watson Ireland Feed Henry! K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!
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doI know how you feel, when I first started into the pc gaming a year ago one card seemed the same as the others (suppose this is the nice thing about consoles) but after a while you start to pick up on a few things. Also it comes down to the games, some are better supported on ATI, other NVidia e.g shader 3 is not on ATI cards but is on nvidia (or is it the other way round :~ ) but ATI are better at opengl at the minute..... A medium range card is ok, its only when your big into a specific game that you try to match the card to it (which is stupid) that and the willy shaking contests. I seen something recently were ati/nvidia were going to put a gig of ram on the gc:wtf:. Imp. 'Out of Office Auto Reply' The email server is unable to verify your server connection and is unable to deliver this mesage. Please restart your computer and try sending again. '(The beauty of this is that when you return, you can see how many in-du-viduals did this over and over).
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Anyone else think the last few years of 3D video cards have been a bit confusing? I honestly have no clue any longer what video card is good and which one is needed for game X, Y or Z. Back in Star Control days all you worried about was your CPU and your RAM. A better 2D video card did help but if you didn't have a great one the game still worked fine. Now though if you don't have a specific video card you might not be able to play the game no matter how good your CPU is or how much RAM you have. In other cases half of the visual delight that made you buy the game is disabled because you don't have a video card that isn't actually released yet. Even though the rest of your machine is a quad P4 4Ghz with 32Gb of RAM. Even the amount of RAM on a 3d card is not an indicator of how good it is or what games will work with it. All the confusing chipsets with their different capabilities and features. Frankly I have stopped buying games because I can never be sure it will work on my laptop (a P4 3.2Ghz 1Gb RAM but with a weak video card). I just want a nice, clear way of knowing if a game will work well or not. Minimum requirements don't help as a: they are a minimum and mean that the game will play but at 2FPS with all features turned off and b: the video chipset mentioned I have never even heard of never mind understood. A model 3 shader card? WTF? We need to go back to good old voxels. They were the solution to everything ;) regards, Paul Watson Ireland Feed Henry! K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!
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We need to go back to good old voxels.
They never went away. :) They just became "more interesting". If I render a 3D texture into a volume, the net result is voxels, I can control the transparency of every texture pixel in the 3D volume and do volumetric rendered pixel(voxels). Mostly used for medical imaging now, but I use it for a few things....
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A model 3 shader card? WTF?
Think Visual C++ 7.0 compiler.... Model 2 is 5.0 compiler... Model 1 is VC 1.0. :) Model 3 shader simply means that the programmer can use "branching" (if statements) in the rendering cycle on the graphics processing unit. Shading languages are usually "just in time compiled" and the code runs in parallel on the graphics card itself. Everytime you hear someone say the card has "24 pipelines" vs. "6 pipelines" it is number of parallel processing "nodes" on the graphics card. Thus a 24 pipeline graphics card that is shader model 3 capable is capable of most operations of a CPU but runs 24 parallel operations making it a miniature supercomputer. ;P Never get me started talking about work.... :rolleyes: _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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Anyone else think the last few years of 3D video cards have been a bit confusing? I honestly have no clue any longer what video card is good and which one is needed for game X, Y or Z. Back in Star Control days all you worried about was your CPU and your RAM. A better 2D video card did help but if you didn't have a great one the game still worked fine. Now though if you don't have a specific video card you might not be able to play the game no matter how good your CPU is or how much RAM you have. In other cases half of the visual delight that made you buy the game is disabled because you don't have a video card that isn't actually released yet. Even though the rest of your machine is a quad P4 4Ghz with 32Gb of RAM. Even the amount of RAM on a 3d card is not an indicator of how good it is or what games will work with it. All the confusing chipsets with their different capabilities and features. Frankly I have stopped buying games because I can never be sure it will work on my laptop (a P4 3.2Ghz 1Gb RAM but with a weak video card). I just want a nice, clear way of knowing if a game will work well or not. Minimum requirements don't help as a: they are a minimum and mean that the game will play but at 2FPS with all features turned off and b: the video chipset mentioned I have never even heard of never mind understood. A model 3 shader card? WTF? We need to go back to good old voxels. They were the solution to everything ;) regards, Paul Watson Ireland Feed Henry! K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!
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Back in Star Control days
Holy cow! I can't believe I missed that line. Star Control 2 was the best game EVER! I still have it on 5 1/4 inch floppies (real floppies, not these newfangled 3 1/2 inch "stiffies") somewhere. p.s. I haven't forgotten about sending you the South Africa vs. Australia cricket match! I've just been so busy I haven't been able to get them from my friend. I think we only have the SA innings though..
"Love is a snowmobile racing across the tundra and then suddenly it flips over, pinning you underneath. At night, the ice weasels come." I refuse to spend my life worrying about what I eat. There is no pleasure worth foregoing just for an extra three years in a geriatric ward.
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Paul Watson wrote:
We need to go back to good old voxels.
Voxels?! Luxury! Back in the day 320 x 240 was the way to go. In fact, CGA was perfect for games. Who needs more than 4 colours? Who needs graphics anyway? All you need is a prompt where you can type things like "Look" and "North" Jokes aside I agree with you. Maybe I'm just getting old and too lazy to keep up with technology. I stopped caring when I last bought a Nvidia 5900 graphics card or something like that. I can't even remember anymore. I was looking at upgrading lately and I see there's things like PCI express and SLI's and whatnot. That means, new motherboard, new CPU, new graphics card(s), new morgage on the house (well if I had a house that is)... I just cant be bothered. I got a ps2 and a TV instead. At least if I ever get a PS3 I (hopefully) wont have to upgrade the TV. :sigh:
"Love is a snowmobile racing across the tundra and then suddenly it flips over, pinning you underneath. At night, the ice weasels come." I refuse to spend my life worrying about what I eat. There is no pleasure worth foregoing just for an extra three years in a geriatric ward.
You'll need to get a HD tv then (this will be my excuse anyway ;P) 'Out of Office Auto Reply' The email server is unable to verify your server connection and is unable to deliver this mesage. Please restart your computer and try sending again. '(The beauty of this is that when you return, you can see how many in-du-viduals did this over and over).
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If you use your pc mainly for games, and your on a tight budget, i'd suggest less RAM, larger Display Card. That's if you can swop them out. What games are you trying to play?
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Well your first problem is your machine is under the recommend specs for the game. You two main issues with this game and your machine is your Sempron, and the video card. (and the 128 on the video card isn't helping) Though I have an AMD Athlon 2.0g, 1 gig of Ram, and a Ge-force 5700.. so you're not THAT much under. However, you are still under and Oblivion takes A LOT of graphics horse power. $200 at Fry's will net you a Ge-force 6800 (with 256 ram) that will do wonders for all your games. I just upgraded mine last week, and the difference is unbelievable. Anyway, your best bet is this: A) make sure you have plenty of HD space free for swap B) Turn off EVERYTHING (and I mean EVERYTHING) before running the game. You might want to use something like 'Smart Close' (http://www.bm-productions.tk/ (FREE)[^] in order to shut everything down automatically. C) be sure your drive is defragged. D) there's also some tweaks that you can do in the Oblivion INI file look here for that information: Oblivion Settings Guide[^] E) You will need to run the game in the lowest settings.. However, I've noticed that the game doesn't always KEEP those settings. So be sure to check them (both in the main launch menu, and in the load game menu) before play. F) make sure your texture settings are set to the lowest possible. Hope this and the Guide can help! -== The PogoWolf ==- Like a funkey muckin' a bootfall. http://www.pogowolf.com GamersVue: ttp://GamersVue.blogger.com
Yeah, what I was wondering is if I could avoid upgrading my processor as well.... But if just upgrading the video card could do wonder, that's good :D
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Interestingly, I have an Athlon 2600+, 768Mb RAM, and a 128Mb FX5200 and the game plays OK on low settings. Gets a bit jerky in fights, but otherwise OK.
That's weird... :wtf: