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  • C Chris Maunder

    Do you think there could be a legitimate corporate policy for using downlevel browsers (IE3 and Netscape 4 are, like, way more secure than Firefox, we're don't want to upgrade everyone because the new menus are too scary for everyone), or just laziness? cheers, Chris Maunder

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    Daniel Turini
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    Chris Maunder wrote:

    Do you think there could be a legitimate corporate policy for using downlevel browsers (IE3 and Netscape 4 are, like, way more secure than Firefox, we're don't want to upgrade everyone because the new menus are too scary for everyone), or just laziness?

    Software corporate policies are created because people are lazy. I lost two potential major customers (huuuge companies) on 2005 because they used Windows 9x and IE4. A few machines were allowed to run IE5, but not allowed to access the internal network, which turned them into browsing appliances only. I don't see dead pixels anymore... Yes, even I am blogging now!

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    • C Chris Maunder

      Under what circumstances would someone be forced to use a pre-Gecko or pre IE4 browser? cheers, Chris Maunder

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      Stuart Dootson
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      The only other option being that some vital body parts are chopped off?

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      • C Chris Maunder

        Under what circumstances would someone be forced to use a pre-Gecko or pre IE4 browser? cheers, Chris Maunder

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        Tibor Blazko
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        maybe i will reply to something else than you asked i hate space technology and bandwith wasting at web pages i see no reason for it, personaly i do not like web 2.0 mail clients, the most i hate is opening of pages via js i like my browser is web _client_, if i want program to work with web data _i_ will install it (at least add page to trusted sites)

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        • C Chris Maunder

          It just occurred to me as I was working on some old code covered with the layer upon layer of scars and wounds of old workarounds that, logically, there is be a point in time where support for old technology can be abandoned. Yet in web design this is sligtly tricky becuase as one set of downlevel browsers go the way of the dodo, other devices with limited browser capabilities (such as PDAs and phones) are rising up to fill the gap. As well, accessibility considerations, low bandwidth, and disabled javascript means there always has to be consideration taken for the downlevel browser. But now I'm thinking "just how 'downlevel' is the minimum standard of 'downlevel' these days?" cheers, Chris Maunder

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          Jorgen Sigvardsson
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          If you kill off the old dead code, you'll be my hero. :)

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          • C Chris Maunder

            Under what circumstances would someone be forced to use a pre-Gecko or pre IE4 browser? cheers, Chris Maunder

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            SteveKing
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            Only to download a newer version of the browser. So websites offering such downloads should work with even the very oldest broswer in existence.

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            • C Chris Maunder

              Under what circumstances would someone be forced to use a pre-Gecko or pre IE4 browser? cheers, Chris Maunder

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              Shog9 0
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              Just use the fancy code, Maunder - your users aren't shy, if it breaks you'll find out fast enough... :rolleyes:

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              • C Chris Maunder

                Under what circumstances would someone be forced to use a pre-Gecko or pre IE4 browser? cheers, Chris Maunder

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                Member 96
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                Some of the more primitive wireless browsing devices?

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                • C Chris Maunder

                  Under what circumstances would someone be forced to use a pre-Gecko or pre IE4 browser? cheers, Chris Maunder

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                  Dominigan
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                  Chris Maunder wrote:

                  Under what circumstances would someone be forced to use a pre-Gecko or pre IE4 browser?

                  gunpoint?

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                  • D Dominigan

                    Chris Maunder wrote:

                    Under what circumstances would someone be forced to use a pre-Gecko or pre IE4 browser?

                    gunpoint?

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                    Dan Neely
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                    Dominigan wrote:

                    Chris Maunder wrote: Under what circumstances would someone be forced to use a pre-Gecko or pre IE4 browser? gunpoint?

                    Really old hardware at a public library. I know someone online who's library still uses antiques running NS4.7

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                    • C Chris Maunder

                      Under what circumstances would someone be forced to use a pre-Gecko or pre IE4 browser? cheers, Chris Maunder

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                      KreativeKai
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                      I do a good bit of consulting with home and small business clients, and what I've found is even if the computer is older and the client doesn't really understand how to even install a newer browser, many times the browser is already upgraded to at least version 5 of IE. Most software packages out on the market, like accounting software and antivirus packages, etc, upgrade the IE as part of their installation requirements. Even if a person wanted to stay with an old browser, they'd need to make sure when they installed pre-packaged software that the IE isn't upgraded. :) Lost in the vast sea of .NET

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                      • C Chris Maunder

                        Under what circumstances would someone be forced to use a pre-Gecko or pre IE4 browser? cheers, Chris Maunder

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                        dandy72
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                        > Under what circumstances would someone be forced to use a pre-Gecko or pre IE4 browser? Torture?

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