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  • A alex barylski

    You know the ubiqious "i" found in almost every example of a for loop for newbies? On another forum were having this disscussion (sorta)... I said (I believe I read it in an C K&R book) that it's because it's simply an alias for Index which is what "i" is usually doing in a for loop...?? Someone else says it has to do with: They are from general Summation Notation that, like many other mathmatical notations, worked its way into early languages -- specifically Fortran (remember its FORMula TRANSlation) I never would have guessed :P Cheers :) It's frustrating being a genius and living the life of a moron!!! -- modified at 21:18 Wednesday 4th October, 2006

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    Rage
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    it is only "i" like "i"nteger, or "s" like "s"tring. ~RaGE();

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    • R Ryan Binns

      Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:

      What do you mean by "the times there was no i"?

      'i' is a very recent letter. Discovered in 1984 by a French astrologer I believe :rolleyes:

      Ryan

      "Punctuality is only a virtue for those who aren't smart enough to think of good excuses for being late" John Nichol "Point Of Impact"

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      MatthysDT
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      How does one discover a letter? :laugh::confused:

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        I thought i/j/k were commonly used in mathematical circles, and so they just moved in to code. Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++

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        Chris Maunder
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        i is reserved for sqrt(-1) cheers, Chris Maunder

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          it is only "i" like "i"nteger, or "s" like "s"tring. ~RaGE();

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          Rage wrote:

          "i" like "i"nteger, or "s" like "s"tring

          Much like hungarian notation, which I happen to like (I'm not hungarian), but am slowly being converted to camelCase (I'm not a camel either).


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            i is reserved for sqrt(-1) cheers, Chris Maunder

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            David Stone
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            Chris Maunder wrote:

            i is reserved for sqrt(-1)

            We're not going to start this discussion again...are we? :~

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              How does one discover a letter? :laugh::confused:

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              David Stone
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              I normally throw spaghetti up against the wall. Then, when I see an interesting pattern, I write it down. And that's how I discover new letters. Coming up with the pronunciation for those letters is a little difficult though. :rolleyes:

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                I normally throw spaghetti up against the wall. Then, when I see an interesting pattern, I write it down. And that's how I discover new letters. Coming up with the pronunciation for those letters is a little difficult though. :rolleyes:

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                Ryan Binns
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                David Stone wrote:

                Coming up with the pronunciation for those letters is a little difficult though.

                Give the spaghetti to someone who eats with their mouth open and listen to the interesting sounds that emerge :)

                Ryan

                "Punctuality is only a virtue for those who aren't smart enough to think of good excuses for being late" John Nichol "Point Of Impact"

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                • Steve EcholsS Steve Echols

                  Rage wrote:

                  "i" like "i"nteger, or "s" like "s"tring

                  Much like hungarian notation, which I happen to like (I'm not hungarian), but am slowly being converted to camelCase (I'm not a camel either).


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                  Ryan Binns
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                  Steve Echols wrote:

                  I'm not a camel either

                  :laugh: Are you sure?

                  Ryan

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                    Chris Maunder wrote:

                    i is reserved for sqrt(-1)

                    We're not going to start this discussion again...are we? :~

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                    Ryan Binns
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                    David Stone wrote:

                    We're not going to start this discussion again...are we?

                    What discussion? :-O

                    Ryan

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                    • R Ryan Binns

                      Steve Echols wrote:

                      I'm not a camel either

                      :laugh: Are you sure?

                      Ryan

                      "Punctuality is only a virtue for those who aren't smart enough to think of good excuses for being late" John Nichol "Point Of Impact"

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                      Steve Echols
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                      :laugh: No humps! Just double checked. Although...hunching over my monitor might give me a "single" in a couple more years. :)


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                      • D David Stone

                        Chris Maunder wrote:

                        i is reserved for sqrt(-1)

                        We're not going to start this discussion again...are we? :~

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                        code frog 0
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                        Quit being irrational!:laugh:


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                        • M Mircea Grelus

                          This brings back memories from the times there was no i. FOR n=0 TO 5 ... NEXT n :) regards, Mircea Many people spend their life going to sleep when they’re not sleepy and waking up while they still are.

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                          Henrik Husted
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                          So you also programmed on ZX Spectrum :)

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                            Quit being irrational!:laugh:


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                            KaRl
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                            Yep, it is beginning to become complex :)


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                              Yep, it is beginning to become complex :)


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                              code frog 0
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                              The possibilities are transcendental when you get David and Ryan going on Mathematics. Add in Chris and well... somehow it all equals "i" in the end...:laugh:


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                                i is reserved for sqrt(-1) cheers, Chris Maunder

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                                code frog 0
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                                I think I reserved i for 2 people at 7:00. :doh:


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                                • A alex barylski

                                  You know the ubiqious "i" found in almost every example of a for loop for newbies? On another forum were having this disscussion (sorta)... I said (I believe I read it in an C K&R book) that it's because it's simply an alias for Index which is what "i" is usually doing in a for loop...?? Someone else says it has to do with: They are from general Summation Notation that, like many other mathmatical notations, worked its way into early languages -- specifically Fortran (remember its FORMula TRANSlation) I never would have guessed :P Cheers :) It's frustrating being a genius and living the life of a moron!!! -- modified at 21:18 Wednesday 4th October, 2006

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                                  Andrew Torrance
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                                  ok , but why no f in cake ?

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                                  • C Chris Maunder

                                    i is reserved for sqrt(-1) cheers, Chris Maunder

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                                    Francisco Viella
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                                    Chris Maunder wrote:

                                    i is reserved for sqrt(-1)

                                    It depends. In electrical engineering, i is reserved for alternate current and, hence, we use j to refer to sqrt(-1). Francisco Silver at last!!

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                                    • A alex barylski

                                      You know the ubiqious "i" found in almost every example of a for loop for newbies? On another forum were having this disscussion (sorta)... I said (I believe I read it in an C K&R book) that it's because it's simply an alias for Index which is what "i" is usually doing in a for loop...?? Someone else says it has to do with: They are from general Summation Notation that, like many other mathmatical notations, worked its way into early languages -- specifically Fortran (remember its FORMula TRANSlation) I never would have guessed :P Cheers :) It's frustrating being a genius and living the life of a moron!!! -- modified at 21:18 Wednesday 4th October, 2006

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                                      Gary R Wheeler
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                                      It started here:   n  Σ  i=0 the mathematical equivalent to:

                                      for (i = 0; i <= n; i++) {
                                      }

                                      Note the terminating condition, as the mathematical expression Σ includes the terminating value.


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                                        Chris Maunder wrote:

                                        i is reserved for sqrt(-1)

                                        It depends. In electrical engineering, i is reserved for alternate current and, hence, we use j to refer to sqrt(-1). Francisco Silver at last!!

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                                        Chris Maunder
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                                        You do realise that as a mathematician it's my duty to insert lots of engineer jokes, right? ;) I'll let you off with a warning this time. cheers, Chris Maunder

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                                        • A alex barylski

                                          You know the ubiqious "i" found in almost every example of a for loop for newbies? On another forum were having this disscussion (sorta)... I said (I believe I read it in an C K&R book) that it's because it's simply an alias for Index which is what "i" is usually doing in a for loop...?? Someone else says it has to do with: They are from general Summation Notation that, like many other mathmatical notations, worked its way into early languages -- specifically Fortran (remember its FORMula TRANSlation) I never would have guessed :P Cheers :) It's frustrating being a genius and living the life of a moron!!! -- modified at 21:18 Wednesday 4th October, 2006

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                                          Marc Clifton
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                                          Hockey wrote:

                                          But is it true? Am I rememering wrong?

                                          "i" because it's automatically treated as an integer in Fortran--the first of several automatic integer variables, followed by "j", "k", "l", etc. I can't remember how many letters are allocated to be integers. Marc Pensieve Functional Entanglement vs. Code Entanglement Static Classes Make For Rigid Architectures Some people believe what the bible says. Literally. At least [with Wikipedia] you have the chance to correct the wiki -- Jörgen Sigvardsson

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