Cellphones and radios should download time automatically
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Why can't someone come up with a cellphone or car radio that updates it's clock automatically? It would be a trivial matter to send a time signal over side channels.
Strangely the auto-update Time & Date feature on my phone started working when I entered the States. It had never worked in South Africa or Europe (well, England, Scotland, Ireland, Germany, Austria and Greece where I have been) but worked in Vegas. When I came back to Ireland, it stopped updating. regards, Paul Watson Ireland Feed Henry! K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!
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Strangely the auto-update Time & Date feature on my phone started working when I entered the States. It had never worked in South Africa or Europe (well, England, Scotland, Ireland, Germany, Austria and Greece where I have been) but worked in Vegas. When I came back to Ireland, it stopped updating. regards, Paul Watson Ireland Feed Henry! K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!
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Strangely the auto-update Time & Date feature on my phone started working when I entered the States. It had never worked in South Africa or Europe (well, England, Scotland, Ireland, Germany, Austria and Greece where I have been) but worked in Vegas. When I came back to Ireland, it stopped updating.
I think it depends on your provider. In the US, the roaming provider may have supported it.
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Paul Watson wrote:
Strangely the auto-update Time & Date feature on my phone started working when I entered the States. It had never worked in South Africa or Europe (well, England, Scotland, Ireland, Germany, Austria and Greece where I have been) but worked in Vegas. When I came back to Ireland, it stopped updating.
I think it depends on your provider. In the US, the roaming provider may have supported it.
Yup. But none of the providers here support it. Which is odd. It seems a simple enough service. regards, Paul Watson Ireland Feed Henry! K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!
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Marc Clifton wrote:
So my complaint is, why can't the cellphone have a clock chip in it?
Mine keeps the time in analog areas if it was turned on in an area with digital, but won't remember it if it's restarted in an area with analog only. Would be nice.
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As I recall, my cell phone does keep the time when in an analog area even if turned off/on, but, yesterday my wife was having a problem getting it to dial until she turned it off/on. That may have been caused by the DST change...
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My cell does... My VCR used to, but whatever signal it used doesn't seem to exist around here.
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Shog9 wrote:
My VCR used to, but whatever signal it used doesn't seem to exist around here.
Same here. :sigh: Jon Sagara Look at him. He runs like a Welshman. Doesn't he run like a Welshman? Doesn't he? I think he runs like a Welshman. My Site | My Blog | My Articles
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Why can't someone come up with a cellphone or car radio that updates it's clock automatically? It would be a trivial matter to send a time signal over side channels.
My phone automatically updated when we went started this years BST perfectly, it even told me had done it so I could check it. Also even when my phone is off it remembers the time, and turns it self on if you have an alarm set. Which can be a tad annoying.
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Why can't someone come up with a cellphone or car radio that updates it's clock automatically? It would be a trivial matter to send a time signal over side channels.
My phone does auto-update .. at least that's what I thought! I had an extra hour of snooze yesterday before realizing that my cell phone time and the time of the wall clock were the same. I had to "shutdown" and "restart" the phone for the auto-update to kick-in! - Malhar
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Strangely the auto-update Time & Date feature on my phone started working when I entered the States. It had never worked in South Africa or Europe (well, England, Scotland, Ireland, Germany, Austria and Greece where I have been) but worked in Vegas. When I came back to Ireland, it stopped updating. regards, Paul Watson Ireland Feed Henry! K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!
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doAin't it great to get out of the 3rd world once in a while... ;)
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Ain't it great to get out of the 3rd world once in a while... ;)
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Yeah. I hate coming back to GSM and 3G. That good old CDMA stuff back in the States is just the shiznitz. :P (The conference had plenty of Europeans who all swelled with pride when one of the fanciest mobile phones showed off was billed as "Only for Europe, because they have 3G and we don't.") regards, Paul Watson Ireland Feed Henry! K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!
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Yeah. I hate coming back to GSM and 3G. That good old CDMA stuff back in the States is just the shiznitz. :P (The conference had plenty of Europeans who all swelled with pride when one of the fanciest mobile phones showed off was billed as "Only for Europe, because they have 3G and we don't.") regards, Paul Watson Ireland Feed Henry! K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!
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(The conference had plenty of Europeans who all swelled with pride when one of the fanciest mobile phones showed off was billed as "Only for Europe, because they have 3G and we don't.")
If only they knew... Forget [2.5|3|4]G, I'd settle for cheap, reliable service without bogus restrictions on which companies i can get service with. I had an easier time doing my taxes this year than i did picking a phone company... less paperwork, too. :sigh:
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Paul Watson wrote:
(The conference had plenty of Europeans who all swelled with pride when one of the fanciest mobile phones showed off was billed as "Only for Europe, because they have 3G and we don't.")
If only they knew... Forget [2.5|3|4]G, I'd settle for cheap, reliable service without bogus restrictions on which companies i can get service with. I had an easier time doing my taxes this year than i did picking a phone company... less paperwork, too. :sigh:
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Shog9 wrote:
without bogus restrictions on which companies i can get service with
What do you mean by this? regards, Paul Watson Ireland Feed Henry! K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!
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Shog9 wrote:
without bogus restrictions on which companies i can get service with
What do you mean by this? regards, Paul Watson Ireland Feed Henry! K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!
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doWell, ignoring the non-bogus reasons (my phone is CDMA, so it won't work with GSM companies), it comes down to this: they sell you a phone that's locked into a specific provider, so the exact same phones can be sold by multiple companies, but i have to jump through all sorts of hoops to get the phone i bought through Co.A to work on Co.B's network. The stated reason for this is that, since they sell the phones at a discount, it allows them to recoup their investment... the truth is, they only give you a discount if you sign up for a contract, and breaking out of the contract costs at least as much as whatever the discount gave you. So in the end, it's a dirty way of locking you in (and also gives cell providers the leverage to discourage manufacturers from building in features they don't want you to have - namely, anything that could be used without giving the Co. extra money each time you use it).
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Well, ignoring the non-bogus reasons (my phone is CDMA, so it won't work with GSM companies), it comes down to this: they sell you a phone that's locked into a specific provider, so the exact same phones can be sold by multiple companies, but i have to jump through all sorts of hoops to get the phone i bought through Co.A to work on Co.B's network. The stated reason for this is that, since they sell the phones at a discount, it allows them to recoup their investment... the truth is, they only give you a discount if you sign up for a contract, and breaking out of the contract costs at least as much as whatever the discount gave you. So in the end, it's a dirty way of locking you in (and also gives cell providers the leverage to discourage manufacturers from building in features they don't want you to have - namely, anything that could be used without giving the Co. extra money each time you use it).
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Ah yes. This is a global tactic, happens here in Ireland and South Africa (and frankly the world is America, Ireland and South Africa. The rest use string and two cans.) You really need to make friends with a dodgy fella. They usually can either unblock your phone for you or know someone who can. Back home you could go down to the street-seller by the traffic lights and he would do it for you for 5 bob. regards, Paul Watson Ireland Feed Henry!
eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.
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Shog9 wrote:
without bogus restrictions on which companies i can get service with
What do you mean by this? regards, Paul Watson Ireland Feed Henry! K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!
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doCellular services in the US typically bite. Coverage can be inconsistent outside major cities and plans can be full of little "gotchas" that add to your bill. "If the world should blow itself up, the last audible voice would be that of an expert saying it can't be done." - Peter Ustinov
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Cellular services in the US typically bite. Coverage can be inconsistent outside major cities and plans can be full of little "gotchas" that add to your bill. "If the world should blow itself up, the last audible voice would be that of an expert saying it can't be done." - Peter Ustinov
Indeed and while Europe and South Africa are pretty decent for cellular service I am still waiting with baited breath for the day of IP convergence. It is going to rock. regards, Paul Watson Ireland Feed Henry!
eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.
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Why can't someone come up with a cellphone or car radio that updates it's clock automatically? It would be a trivial matter to send a time signal over side channels.
If you're using a CDMA service it does. Your phone gets it's time from the tower, which in turn gets it's time from GPS satellites (got to be exact about the billing). My phone changes time automatically when I cross time zones and twice a year when the time changes. CDMA[^] -Sean ---- Shag a Lizard -- modified at 14:42 Monday 3rd April, 2006
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Strangely the auto-update Time & Date feature on my phone started working when I entered the States. It had never worked in South Africa or Europe (well, England, Scotland, Ireland, Germany, Austria and Greece where I have been) but worked in Vegas. When I came back to Ireland, it stopped updating. regards, Paul Watson Ireland Feed Henry! K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!
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Indeed and while Europe and South Africa are pretty decent for cellular service I am still waiting with baited breath for the day of IP convergence. It is going to rock. regards, Paul Watson Ireland Feed Henry!
eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.
Paul Watson wrote:
It is going to rock.
Are you kidding? An open system, where multiple hardware and software companies can compete on a level playing field, to the ultimate benefit of you and i? "Rock" doesn't even begin to describe it! Of course, it won't happen. The providers will find some way of either blocking service that isn't paid for at both ends, or, failing that, get laws passed to make it illegal (supposedly for the protection of small, local companies - the ones that were deemed unprofitable to begin with and had to be established via either local cooperatives or direct Gov't involvement). Mark my words: by 2015, we'll be paying less for phone service than ever before... and more than making up the difference by having to pay for sending emails.
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