Lady Developers
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in the industry, less than 1 in 20. on CP, I'd say less than 1 in 1000 ( in my gross estimation )
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We have about 10% women developers. BW
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Just an idle question; how many women are there around here? CP is quite male-dominated - which reflects development in general, as I'd expect - but I presume there are some other female contributors? Just curious. :)
CP has a number of high-profile female contributors, (I'm not going to name them all because I usually forget a name (hi Corrine) and feel bad about it) Like you say, development is usually male dominated. Over my 18 year career I've only worked with about seven female developers and a couple of women managers. A shame there aren't more, as in my experience they seem to have a more balanced approach to development. They knew their techie stuff but still managed to have a good life outside of the work. Michael CP Blog [^] Development Blog [^]
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in the industry, less than 1 in 20. on CP, I'd say less than 1 in 1000 ( in my gross estimation )
Maximilien Lincourt Your Head A Splode - Strong Bad
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Just an idle question; how many women are there around here? CP is quite male-dominated - which reflects development in general, as I'd expect - but I presume there are some other female contributors? Just curious. :)
About 2 years ago it was 4.34%[^] the fairer sex. I actually wonder what it is that makes it male dominated? Is it a typical "engineering" type thing? Or are guys the only ones daft enough to want to stare at a screen for 12 hours going cross eyed trying to find that bug? I've never actually heard an explanation (that doesn't rely on the fallback of "genetics") that makes sense. cheers, Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
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CP has a number of high-profile female contributors, (I'm not going to name them all because I usually forget a name (hi Corrine) and feel bad about it) Like you say, development is usually male dominated. Over my 18 year career I've only worked with about seven female developers and a couple of women managers. A shame there aren't more, as in my experience they seem to have a more balanced approach to development. They knew their techie stuff but still managed to have a good life outside of the work. Michael CP Blog [^] Development Blog [^]
Michael P Butler wrote:
hi Corrine
It's Corinna. Mr. Stone made the mistake of leaving out her name entirely last month. Cheers, Vikram.
I don't know and you don't either. Militant Agnostic
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Just an idle question; how many women are there around here? CP is quite male-dominated - which reflects development in general, as I'd expect - but I presume there are some other female contributors? Just curious. :)
Most Indian S/W companies have 40%-50% women in development, and 70%-80% in Admin/HR, so typically the company ends up with more women than men. In my first company, there were 3 guys and about 12 women in the dev team. Regards, Nish
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Michael P Butler wrote:
hi Corrine
It's Corinna. Mr. Stone made the mistake of leaving out her name entirely last month. Cheers, Vikram.
I don't know and you don't either. Militant Agnostic
Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:
It's Corinna.
Doh. I did it again. Sorry Corinna. First time I forget you and second time I spell your name wrong. I'll keep quiet from now on. Michael CP Blog [^] Development Blog [^]
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Most Indian S/W companies have 40%-50% women in development, and 70%-80% in Admin/HR, so typically the company ends up with more women than men. In my first company, there were 3 guys and about 12 women in the dev team. Regards, Nish
Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
The Ultimate Grid - The #1 MFC grid out there!Nishant Sivakumar wrote:
Most Indian S/W companies have 40%-50% women in development, and 70%-80% in Admin/HR, so typically the company ends up with more women than men.
Not in my experience. Companies I've seen are much like what people in other countries describe - typical male bastion. YMMV. You're very correct about the HR thing, though. Cheers, Vikram.
I don't know and you don't either. Militant Agnostic
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Just an idle question; how many women are there around here? CP is quite male-dominated - which reflects development in general, as I'd expect - but I presume there are some other female contributors? Just curious. :)
In the office I work in, the ratio of developers is 50/50 (3 of each). However, having said that, there are also 3 female group leaders (supervisors), 1 male DBA, and 3 male systems people (network and servers). At my previous employer, it was about a 5 to 1 ratio of male to female.
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Tree in C# || Fold With Us! || sighistCool rule. :laugh: The rule here seems to be that you can be a developer as long as your name is "Paul" (3 of them). The Development team in my previous job did count three Steves, though - one-third of the team. However, in both cases, calculating the ratio of any given male name to the number of female developers is academic; there are none!
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About 2 years ago it was 4.34%[^] the fairer sex. I actually wonder what it is that makes it male dominated? Is it a typical "engineering" type thing? Or are guys the only ones daft enough to want to stare at a screen for 12 hours going cross eyed trying to find that bug? I've never actually heard an explanation (that doesn't rely on the fallback of "genetics") that makes sense. cheers, Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
brain wiring. The key element (I think) is a reductionsitic male approach vs. the holistic female understanding. It's much more often found in males to disassemble a gadget, examine and understand each element, then reassemble it again (with varying success). Women more often skip over the details and discuss the context. I can't tell you where it comes from, but I have accepted that men and women are different. I know a family with a "own" child and one adopted as infant, seeing these siblings cries "genetics". I see in myself behavior patters from my stepfather, which cries "upbringing". I see that "both" doesn't help explain it. And I see that it is typically male trying to understand the mechanics of this difference. :cool: and that PC has made it hard to discuss such things without using vague-speak
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Nishant Sivakumar wrote:
Most Indian S/W companies have 40%-50% women in development, and 70%-80% in Admin/HR, so typically the company ends up with more women than men.
Not in my experience. Companies I've seen are much like what people in other countries describe - typical male bastion. YMMV. You're very correct about the HR thing, though. Cheers, Vikram.
I don't know and you don't either. Militant Agnostic
Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:
Not in my experience. Companies I've seen are much like what people in other countries describe - typical male bastion. YMMV.
Must be a Trivandrum thing then. There seem to be more women than men in Technopark.
Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:
You're very correct about the HR thing, though.
Yeah, and when you encounter the rare male HR, it seems a little weird :-) Regards, Nish
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Just an idle question; how many women are there around here? CP is quite male-dominated - which reflects development in general, as I'd expect - but I presume there are some other female contributors? Just curious. :)
Good heavens! Till Smitha pointed it out to me, I hadn't noticed that the thread starter is a woman! I didn't notice the name :) Regards, Nish
Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
The Ultimate Grid - The #1 MFC grid out there! -
CP has a number of high-profile female contributors, (I'm not going to name them all because I usually forget a name (hi Corrine) and feel bad about it) Like you say, development is usually male dominated. Over my 18 year career I've only worked with about seven female developers and a couple of women managers. A shame there aren't more, as in my experience they seem to have a more balanced approach to development. They knew their techie stuff but still managed to have a good life outside of the work. Michael CP Blog [^] Development Blog [^]
Michael P Butler wrote:
I usually forget a name (hi Corrine)
I bet you are in trouble now for misspelling her name! :rolleyes: Regards, Nish
Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
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Cool rule. :laugh: The rule here seems to be that you can be a developer as long as your name is "Paul" (3 of them). The Development team in my previous job did count three Steves, though - one-third of the team. However, in both cases, calculating the ratio of any given male name to the number of female developers is academic; there are none!
I already wondered as we have neither a Steve nor a female developer: is this a violation of the rule? (But one of the developers is called Stefan, which is close enough I think)
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Just an idle question; how many women are there around here? CP is quite male-dominated - which reflects development in general, as I'd expect - but I presume there are some other female contributors? Just curious. :)
Hi Emma, We're here alright...just too busy to write as much as we'd like. I know a few female CP members who are "below the radar" due to work or family commitments, but as you say, its a male dominated profession. :rose: Anna :rose: Currently working mostly on: Visual Lint :cool: Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work.
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Some of us walk the memory lane, others plummet into a rabbit hole
Tree in C# || Fold With Us! || sighist:laugh: Here our developers are 100% Steve (i.e. me) and no women. :sigh:
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Just an idle question; how many women are there around here? CP is quite male-dominated - which reflects development in general, as I'd expect - but I presume there are some other female contributors? Just curious. :)
I've never actually met a 'lady' programmer. "You get that which you tolerate"
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About 2 years ago it was 4.34%[^] the fairer sex. I actually wonder what it is that makes it male dominated? Is it a typical "engineering" type thing? Or are guys the only ones daft enough to want to stare at a screen for 12 hours going cross eyed trying to find that bug? I've never actually heard an explanation (that doesn't rely on the fallback of "genetics") that makes sense. cheers, Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
I actually wonder what it is that makes it male dominated? Is it a typical "engineering" type thing? I think there is a gender divide when it comes to what interests most women as opposed to most men. Networking with other people in an admin, marketing or management position is probably more attractive to most women than development, which usually requires limited social contact and detailed knowledge of abstract technical concepts. Of course, there are exceptions; personally, I love developing because it means I can bend my computer to my will. ;P
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Just an idle question; how many women are there around here? CP is quite male-dominated - which reflects development in general, as I'd expect - but I presume there are some other female contributors? Just curious. :)
In my University section (Computer Science Engineering) and specifically in my class we have somthing like 6 or 7 women out of 150 studends total. ___________________________________ Tozzi is right: Gaia is getting rid of us. My Blog [ITA]