Anyone offended by high voted posts?
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It's probably that intrinsically human attitude of "If I don't have my posts voted red, then no one else shall either" :) Regards, Nish
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The Ultimate Grid - The #1 MFC grid out there!I guess so, Nish. Pityful...:sigh: Couldn't there be something done about this, such as require a reply when down rating a previously up rated post? Would that comprimise CP's freedom of speech in some way or risk having lots of posts with no content?
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Toasty0 wrote:
Maybe we should let those who think that way vote green.
so vote colors.... I think this post is a mauve: FFC7B8 All the votes get mixed and see what color comes out the other side.... :~ _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
:laugh::laugh::laugh: Maybe a form should be displayed when voting asking how the voter thinks, if he is narrow minded or not. Put in a reminder as well asking the voter to answer truthfully. ;P
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Roger Stoltz wrote:
Perhaps a reply should be required if someone wants to rate down a post, 1 or 2, that has been high rated earlier such as 4 or 5.
But then what is a 3 vote? I agree but I don't feel like replying? I don't disagree or agree, I am lukewarm and have no opinion? ;) _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
I consider a 3-vote a way to say "OK, but this is common knowledge, or least it should be" rating a previously non-rated post. If the post was previously up rated it's a way of saying "But hey, this is no rocket science". Or if the post was previously down rated: "It wasn't that bad anyway...". It should be interesting to have a survey about how fellow CPians interpret different ratings.
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Just wondering since I've seen a lot of 5-rated posts being down rated for no reason the past few days in the VC++/MFC forum. Does the read line hurt someones eyes or what? I always thought the voting facility is a way to alert other members about posts worth reading because they contain some good tips or tricks. I just feel this whole idea going down the drain due to abuse. If it's a joke that gets down rated I couldn't care less, but if the post contains something good it somewhat disturbs me. At the end of the day this behaviour may keep people with good ideas from posting. Thoughts anyone? -- Roger
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Roger Stoltz wrote:
I always thought the voting facility is a way to alert other members about posts worth reading because they contain some good tips or tricks. I just feel this whole idea going down the drain due to abuse. If it's a joke that gets down rated I couldn't care less, but if the post contains something good it somewhat disturbs me. At the end of the day this behaviour may keep people with good ideas from posting.
"Drive by voting" has always been a problem. And there is very little that can be done about it. The best way to beat it, is to vote good stuff a 5. If everybody who read a post that gave good advice and a sound answer, voted then these low voters would be hidden under the weight of the good votes. Too many times in the forums, do I see a good answer and not bothering voting on it. I guess others do the same. But perhaps it is time that the community started to acknowledge publically good responses rather than agreeing in silence. Michael CP Blog [^] Development Blog [^]
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Roger Stoltz wrote:
I always thought the voting facility is a way to alert other members about posts worth reading because they contain some good tips or tricks. I just feel this whole idea going down the drain due to abuse. If it's a joke that gets down rated I couldn't care less, but if the post contains something good it somewhat disturbs me. At the end of the day this behaviour may keep people with good ideas from posting.
"Drive by voting" has always been a problem. And there is very little that can be done about it. The best way to beat it, is to vote good stuff a 5. If everybody who read a post that gave good advice and a sound answer, voted then these low voters would be hidden under the weight of the good votes. Too many times in the forums, do I see a good answer and not bothering voting on it. I guess others do the same. But perhaps it is time that the community started to acknowledge publically good responses rather than agreeing in silence. Michael CP Blog [^] Development Blog [^]
Michael P Butler wrote:
But perhaps it is time that the community started to acknowledge publically good responses rather than agreeing in silence.
Couldn't agree more. You've got my 5 for that. -- Roger
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:laugh::laugh::laugh: Maybe a form should be displayed when voting asking how the voter thinks, if he is narrow minded or not. Put in a reminder as well asking the voter to answer truthfully. ;P
It's supposed to be hard, otherwise anybody could do it!
Roger Stoltz wrote:
Put in a reminder as well asking the voter to answer truthfully.
One man's truth.... I vote this post a nice eggplant color 0x990066... ;P [edit: hey, at least it is green-ish] _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb) -- modified at 12:29 Friday 7th April, 2006
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Roger Stoltz wrote:
I always thought the voting facility is a way to alert other members about posts worth reading because they contain some good tips or tricks. I just feel this whole idea going down the drain due to abuse. If it's a joke that gets down rated I couldn't care less, but if the post contains something good it somewhat disturbs me. At the end of the day this behaviour may keep people with good ideas from posting.
"Drive by voting" has always been a problem. And there is very little that can be done about it. The best way to beat it, is to vote good stuff a 5. If everybody who read a post that gave good advice and a sound answer, voted then these low voters would be hidden under the weight of the good votes. Too many times in the forums, do I see a good answer and not bothering voting on it. I guess others do the same. But perhaps it is time that the community started to acknowledge publically good responses rather than agreeing in silence. Michael CP Blog [^] Development Blog [^]
Michael P Butler wrote:
The best way to beat it, is to vote good stuff a 5.
I have found that people don't give good stuff a 5 if it is already at a 5. Then a 1 vote does a lot of damage, as people who would vote don't read the message again and you are at a low vote ranking.
Michael P Butler wrote:
"Drive by voting" has always been a problem. And there is very little that can be done about it.
This suggestion kind of defeats some of what CP stands for but... I have found that the people who do the "drive by voting" and "vote bashing" are members who really don't contribute to the site. What would happen if you were in a probation period at the start of your membership? You couldn't vote until you reach say 50 forum posts or 3 good article posts and you could be punted easily if you were being an idiot. Spaming, being extremely rude (some allowance given considering new people don't really know how things work), etc. You get say two warnings, then get punted. Let me know what you think. :) ------------------------------------------------ :EDIT: -It would also be nice for the person who writes a message to be able to see who has voted on it. It would be at least nice to know who has given some of my messages a 1 for no reason. -- modified at 13:29 Friday 7th April, 2006
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I consider a 3-vote a way to say "OK, but this is common knowledge, or least it should be" rating a previously non-rated post. If the post was previously up rated it's a way of saying "But hey, this is no rocket science". Or if the post was previously down rated: "It wasn't that bad anyway...". It should be interesting to have a survey about how fellow CPians interpret different ratings.
It's supposed to be hard, otherwise anybody could do it!
Roger Stoltz wrote:
a survey about how fellow CPians interpret different ratings.
which will tell you the sample based on who took the survey, which may not match who is currently voting. ;) _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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Roger Stoltz wrote:
I always thought the voting facility is a way to alert other members about posts worth reading because they contain some good tips or tricks. I just feel this whole idea going down the drain due to abuse. If it's a joke that gets down rated I couldn't care less, but if the post contains something good it somewhat disturbs me. At the end of the day this behaviour may keep people with good ideas from posting.
"Drive by voting" has always been a problem. And there is very little that can be done about it. The best way to beat it, is to vote good stuff a 5. If everybody who read a post that gave good advice and a sound answer, voted then these low voters would be hidden under the weight of the good votes. Too many times in the forums, do I see a good answer and not bothering voting on it. I guess others do the same. But perhaps it is time that the community started to acknowledge publically good responses rather than agreeing in silence. Michael CP Blog [^] Development Blog [^]
Michael P Butler wrote:
But perhaps it is time that the community started to acknowledge publically good responses rather than agreeing in silence.
But then you have 1-15 messages that all say "I agree" or "I disagree" which I think is more data storage than a vote. You can lead a reader to the forum, but you cannot make him post... and sometimes for the sake of your SQL server, that is a good thing.... _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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Just wondering since I've seen a lot of 5-rated posts being down rated for no reason the past few days in the VC++/MFC forum. Does the read line hurt someones eyes or what? I always thought the voting facility is a way to alert other members about posts worth reading because they contain some good tips or tricks. I just feel this whole idea going down the drain due to abuse. If it's a joke that gets down rated I couldn't care less, but if the post contains something good it somewhat disturbs me. At the end of the day this behaviour may keep people with good ideas from posting. Thoughts anyone? -- Roger
It's supposed to be hard, otherwise anybody could do it!
Is your ego so fragile that you even care what votes you are getting? :(( I seem to get the most 5 votes on off handed remarks meant to amuse rather than inform. :rolleyes: When I take the time to compose a reasoned response I usually get no votes or low votes. :mad: Actually, low votes just show that I have directed my response to the heart of the matter. :~ Maybe not the response people are looking for but one they cannot just click through without at lest registering their resentment. :cool: At the end of the day, even if I bring proof of the votes I received for responses I have posted, a 35 Baht bottle of Beer Chang still costs me 35 Baht. Go figure? :(( Relax and have another beer. Things likes votes received on CP will seem a lot less important. ;-) :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: Actually I do not need six bottles of Beer Chang because it is 6.4° and a bottle contains 640ml. Quuat Song [2 bottles] is more than sufficient for me at any one sitting. I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopes
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Is your ego so fragile that you even care what votes you are getting? :(( I seem to get the most 5 votes on off handed remarks meant to amuse rather than inform. :rolleyes: When I take the time to compose a reasoned response I usually get no votes or low votes. :mad: Actually, low votes just show that I have directed my response to the heart of the matter. :~ Maybe not the response people are looking for but one they cannot just click through without at lest registering their resentment. :cool: At the end of the day, even if I bring proof of the votes I received for responses I have posted, a 35 Baht bottle of Beer Chang still costs me 35 Baht. Go figure? :(( Relax and have another beer. Things likes votes received on CP will seem a lot less important. ;-) :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: Actually I do not need six bottles of Beer Chang because it is 6.4° and a bottle contains 640ml. Quuat Song [2 bottles] is more than sufficient for me at any one sitting. I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopes
JimmyRopes wrote:
Is your ego so fragile that you even care what votes you are getting?
JimmyRopes wrote:
Relax and have another beer
Maybe if you haven't had that much beer your mind would be clear enough to realize that I didn't mean my own posts, given that you took the time to read the posts above. ;) My posts above have been both up rated and down rated in way that amuses me rather than offends me. If that tells you something about my ego I leave up to you. :cool: :rose: Roger
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JimmyRopes wrote:
Is your ego so fragile that you even care what votes you are getting?
JimmyRopes wrote:
Relax and have another beer
Maybe if you haven't had that much beer your mind would be clear enough to realize that I didn't mean my own posts, given that you took the time to read the posts above. ;) My posts above have been both up rated and down rated in way that amuses me rather than offends me. If that tells you something about my ego I leave up to you. :cool: :rose: Roger
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Roger Stoltz wrote:
My posts above have been both up rated and down rated in way that amuses me rather than offends me.
I would second that, but i personally would like to see who has voted my posts down for no reason (ex: other people have posted similar messages from time to time and only mine gets voted down.)
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Roger Stoltz wrote:
My posts above have been both up rated and down rated in way that amuses me rather than offends me.
I would second that, but i personally would like to see who has voted my posts down for no reason (ex: other people have posted similar messages from time to time and only mine gets voted down.)
Why bother? It is not like it means anything important. Maybe you offended someone and they like to vote you down? I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopes
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JimmyRopes wrote:
Is your ego so fragile that you even care what votes you are getting?
JimmyRopes wrote:
Relax and have another beer
Maybe if you haven't had that much beer your mind would be clear enough to realize that I didn't mean my own posts, given that you took the time to read the posts above. ;) My posts above have been both up rated and down rated in way that amuses me rather than offends me. If that tells you something about my ego I leave up to you. :cool: :rose: Roger
It's supposed to be hard, otherwise anybody could do it!
:beer: I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopes