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    Abbas_Riazi
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    Here is a question that one of my friend asked me but I haven't any answer for it. Then if you know the answer or if you have any idea, please reply: Assume that if layer K of Network Layers has an unreliable and connectionless service, then by adding some overload to (K+1) layer of Network Layers, we can make the service a reliable and connection oriented service. Now think reverse: Assume that the service of layer K is connection oriented, is it possible to have a connectionless services on layer (k+1)? Best regards, A. Riazi

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      Here is a question that one of my friend asked me but I haven't any answer for it. Then if you know the answer or if you have any idea, please reply: Assume that if layer K of Network Layers has an unreliable and connectionless service, then by adding some overload to (K+1) layer of Network Layers, we can make the service a reliable and connection oriented service. Now think reverse: Assume that the service of layer K is connection oriented, is it possible to have a connectionless services on layer (k+1)? Best regards, A. Riazi

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      Craster
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      A. Riazi wrote:

      Assume that the service of layer K is connection oriented, is it possible to have a connectionless services on layer (k+1)?

      :wtf: My cat's breath smells.

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      • A Abbas_Riazi

        Here is a question that one of my friend asked me but I haven't any answer for it. Then if you know the answer or if you have any idea, please reply: Assume that if layer K of Network Layers has an unreliable and connectionless service, then by adding some overload to (K+1) layer of Network Layers, we can make the service a reliable and connection oriented service. Now think reverse: Assume that the service of layer K is connection oriented, is it possible to have a connectionless services on layer (k+1)? Best regards, A. Riazi

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        Ryan Binns
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        A. Riazi wrote:

        Assume that the service of layer K is connection oriented, is it possible to have a connectionless services on layer (k+1)?

        Sure. Whenever the connectionless services layer is asked to transmit to a certain location, it can open a connection, transmit the data and close the connection again. It could work similarly for receive. If it was asked to receive on a certain port, it would listen for a connection, and when it got one would receive the data, close the listening port, and hand the data back to the application.

        Ryan

        "Punctuality is only a virtue for those who aren't smart enough to think of good excuses for being late" John Nichol "Point Of Impact"

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        • A Abbas_Riazi

          Here is a question that one of my friend asked me but I haven't any answer for it. Then if you know the answer or if you have any idea, please reply: Assume that if layer K of Network Layers has an unreliable and connectionless service, then by adding some overload to (K+1) layer of Network Layers, we can make the service a reliable and connection oriented service. Now think reverse: Assume that the service of layer K is connection oriented, is it possible to have a connectionless services on layer (k+1)? Best regards, A. Riazi

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          Dario Solera
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          A. Riazi wrote:

          Assume that the service of layer K is connection oriented, is it possible to have a connectionless services on layer (k+1)?

          It's actually what happens in ATM networks (the most diffused WAN technology). On connection-oriented networks you always have the possibility to use UDP. Look here: ATM at Wikipedia[^] EDIT: Telecommunication Network Fundamentals lessons has been useful, finally! :-D ___________________________________ Tozzi is right: Gaia is getting rid of us. My Blog [ITA] -- modified at 12:32 Friday 7th April, 2006

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          • A Abbas_Riazi

            Here is a question that one of my friend asked me but I haven't any answer for it. Then if you know the answer or if you have any idea, please reply: Assume that if layer K of Network Layers has an unreliable and connectionless service, then by adding some overload to (K+1) layer of Network Layers, we can make the service a reliable and connection oriented service. Now think reverse: Assume that the service of layer K is connection oriented, is it possible to have a connectionless services on layer (k+1)? Best regards, A. Riazi

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            QuiJohn
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            *sniff* *sniff* Smells like homework. [Edit: but then I looked at your profile and I doubt it is. Sorry. :)] -- modified at 12:48 Friday 7th April, 2006

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              *sniff* *sniff* Smells like homework. [Edit: but then I looked at your profile and I doubt it is. Sorry. :)] -- modified at 12:48 Friday 7th April, 2006

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              Dario Solera
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              I think not. Riazi is graduated. ___________________________________ Tozzi is right: Gaia is getting rid of us. My Blog [ITA]

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                A. Riazi wrote:

                Assume that the service of layer K is connection oriented, is it possible to have a connectionless services on layer (k+1)?

                :wtf: My cat's breath smells.

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                Jim Matthews
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                Craster wrote:

                My cat's breath smells.

                like cat food?


                -jim

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                • D Dario Solera

                  I think not. Riazi is graduated. ___________________________________ Tozzi is right: Gaia is getting rid of us. My Blog [ITA]

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                  Dave Kreskowiak
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                  Dario Solera wrote:

                  Riazi is graduated

                  Doesn't that mean he has lines up and down his side specifying a volume he contains at a certain point? a.k.a - A measuring cup... Dave Kreskowiak Microsoft MVP - Visual Basic

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                  • D Dave Kreskowiak

                    Dario Solera wrote:

                    Riazi is graduated

                    Doesn't that mean he has lines up and down his side specifying a volume he contains at a certain point? a.k.a - A measuring cup... Dave Kreskowiak Microsoft MVP - Visual Basic

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                    Dario Solera
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                    Dunno. It's your language. I just checked with google translations and I think it's correct. ___________________________________ Tozzi is right: Gaia is getting rid of us. My Blog [ITA]

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                    • C Craster

                      A. Riazi wrote:

                      Assume that the service of layer K is connection oriented, is it possible to have a connectionless services on layer (k+1)?

                      :wtf: My cat's breath smells.

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                      Jim Crafton
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                      I keep reading this nad just laughing, and laughing :) I know it's a legit question, but that answer is great! :) ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF!

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                      • D Dario Solera

                        Dunno. It's your language. I just checked with google translations and I think it's correct. ___________________________________ Tozzi is right: Gaia is getting rid of us. My Blog [ITA]

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                        Dan Neely
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                        It is. He was just making a (bad) joke.

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