XP on a Dual Core Machine
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A developer would definitely see differences in the dual processor environment. Your games may get a small percentile of performance improvements (even if they are single thread) since kernel tasks and memory management would move the the second processor. XP Professional has tons of improvements to fully utilize dual processor environments. I'm a gamer and my last system I built just died last night (just as I was about to join the Assasins Cult in Oblivion) and I'm getting a throw-away video card just so that I can put the extra bucks into the fastest AMD X2 processor my wife will let me buy. It is worth it.
theRealCondor wrote:
so that I can put the extra bucks into the fastest AMD X2 processor my wife will let me buy. It is worth it.
A 3800+ (2gig $300) will run at 2.5-2.6gig with a $200 h2o kit and high quality ram. Much cheaper than paying $1k for a stock 2.6gig chip.
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theRealCondor wrote:
so that I can put the extra bucks into the fastest AMD X2 processor my wife will let me buy. It is worth it.
A 3800+ (2gig $300) will run at 2.5-2.6gig with a $200 h2o kit and high quality ram. Much cheaper than paying $1k for a stock 2.6gig chip.
but it is still cheaper to grab a 2.2 dual core at $460 or a 2.4 dual core at $540. _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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but it is still cheaper to grab a 2.2 dual core at $460 or a 2.4 dual core at $540. _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
Yes and no. 2.0dual and h20 is ~$500, and as I said will get ~$1k performance. The 2.4's only advantages are bigger cache and being able to use cheaper memory. My ram topped out at 250mhz so to run at 2600* I had to apply a divider to it, which dropped it down to ~220. Lesson learned, and I'm half considering buying 2 gig of faster ram once I get my refund. I'd've probably gotten the better ram except my current machine was an emergency purchase when the old one died, and I just bought most components off a hardocp system guide since I hadn't researched out what I was planning to buy 4mo in the future.
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Yes and no. 2.0dual and h20 is ~$500, and as I said will get ~$1k performance. The 2.4's only advantages are bigger cache and being able to use cheaper memory. My ram topped out at 250mhz so to run at 2600* I had to apply a divider to it, which dropped it down to ~220. Lesson learned, and I'm half considering buying 2 gig of faster ram once I get my refund. I'd've probably gotten the better ram except my current machine was an emergency purchase when the old one died, and I just bought most components off a hardocp system guide since I hadn't researched out what I was planning to buy 4mo in the future.
True, but you can always overclock later if you want to.... if you plan for an overclock and max it out, you leave no room for growth. _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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Does anyone know if Windows XP will actually perform better on a dual core machine than on a uniprocessor one? ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸
Simply, yes!
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Does anyone know if Windows XP will actually perform better on a dual core machine than on a uniprocessor one? ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸
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How many CPU's can XP use? I thought 2 was the max. ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸
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How many CPU's can XP use? I thought 2 was the max. ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸
Yes, 2 CPU sockets. Unlimited cores. Currently say with AMD Opterons you can get 2 cores per CPU - so XP can run what is effectivey a 4 way machine - 4 full threads, not those hald arsed hyper threading things that more often that not actually slow a machine down. Next year Intel and AMD come out with Quad core CPU's. XP is fine with them too. So next year you effectively will be able to see 8 processors in the task manager, on a dual socket quad core box. -- modified at 13:38 Wednesday 19th April, 2006 XP-64 also optimises for AMD's Opteron NUMA memory arcitecture fully - adding extra optimisation for where the banks of memory are relative to the CPU, and where the thread/process running has most of its data stored. Superb for things like databases, but still very useful for everything else.
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Yes, 2 CPU sockets. Unlimited cores. Currently say with AMD Opterons you can get 2 cores per CPU - so XP can run what is effectivey a 4 way machine - 4 full threads, not those hald arsed hyper threading things that more often that not actually slow a machine down. Next year Intel and AMD come out with Quad core CPU's. XP is fine with them too. So next year you effectively will be able to see 8 processors in the task manager, on a dual socket quad core box. -- modified at 13:38 Wednesday 19th April, 2006 XP-64 also optimises for AMD's Opteron NUMA memory arcitecture fully - adding extra optimisation for where the banks of memory are relative to the CPU, and where the thread/process running has most of its data stored. Superb for things like databases, but still very useful for everything else.
What you say is music to my ears if it's true. But I have to admit I'm having a hard time believing that MS would allow you such a benefit without forcing you to buy their server OS. Do you have a link that talks about this? ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸
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What you say is music to my ears if it's true. But I have to admit I'm having a hard time believing that MS would allow you such a benefit without forcing you to buy their server OS. Do you have a link that talks about this? ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸
Its true. We do it at work. http://www.microsoft.com/licensing/highlights/multicore.mspx[^] Not everyone is so nice. e.g. Oracle. http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=24629[^] All MS OS's and servers are licenced on a per socket basis, and not per core. Giles
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