Trigger finger - part 2
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I think shog was encouraging you to leave it alone though because in the soapbox it's a safe place for it and many might enjoy it. I can tell you are not a native english speaker and I think if I were in your shoes I'd post freely and willingly but if you are uncertain of something you will receive no anger at all by asking. I've seen many occasions where someone makes a post and says, "I'm not sure if this is appropriate for the lounge or the soapbox what do you guys think?" everyone here is polite and they will tell you. Pay close attention to replies from those guys with hammers for their profile icon as they have a lot of experience here. This community is largely self policing though and I think I'm even beginning to understand that it's great how things work (I have a very hard head so I learn slowly at times.) and that great people are very busy behind the scenes keeping it great. I have to applaud (show my appreciation) you though for being sensitive to the quality and evnironment here. I think that distinguishes you as an excellent person. Keep it up and you'll do well.
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code-frog wrote:
I think shog was encouraging you to leave it alone though
Yes I understood that. But I also concerned Hansen's feeling.
code-frog wrote:
I can tell you are not a native english speaker
Oh?! I am trying to catch up you guys' tongue. :rolleyes:
code-frog wrote:
I have to applaud (show my appreciation)
Thank you.
code-frog wrote:
being sensitive
There have been a good many people saying so. Now it counts two more. :-D Not sure I am getting older or something... Anyway, I think
safety is the first consideration.
Maxwell Chen
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The Kid Sister Rule[^] Personally, I prefer a "fuzzy" rule, and someone with the power to make a decision by himself. After all, life or happiness doesn't depend on a lounge post (and if it's the latter, get help). "Clear rules" kill human responsibility and understanding, and replace them by rule automatons. It seems easier, but you don't really want it, trust me :)
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Tree in C# || Fold With Us! || sighist -- modified at 14:20 Sunday 30th April, 2006I agree. Clear rules only encourage rules lawyering. Instead the only clear rule should be, "Your post got moved. Deal with it or leave." Pictures of the menu available at the drive-thru
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I'll say three things. First, I thought it was hilarious. Second, why do you think you even deserve an explanation for why the thread got moved? Why do you need a reason for it's being moved? Why do you need to understand? You're a guest in someone's house, do you ask "why are the dishes put here?". It's the same thing. You're a guest on someone's website. If they want to move your thread, delete it, ban you, well, yours is not to wonder why, now is it? If, on the other hand, you want to understand so that you know where to post something in the future, well, geez, get a clue. Do you honestly think a pun on the word shit, with all its variants, however funny, is compliant with the kid sister rule? If you do, well, then this is why people have rules without any need to explain them, because they're just wasting their breath. So, take a minute and think about it. Marc Pensieve Some people believe what the bible says. Literally. At least [with Wikipedia] you have the chance to correct the wiki -- Jörgen Sigvardsson
Marc Clifton wrote:
You're a guest in someone's house, do you ask "why are the dishes put here?". It's the same thing. You're a guest on someone's website. If they want to move your thread, delete it, ban you, well, yours is not to wonder why, now is it?
Well said! One reason whey I can easily justify browsing CP / the lounge at work is the kid sister rule.
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Graham Bradshaw wrote:
Question: Would you tell that joke in front of those two?
Yep. Both of my kids had been on the end of a barrage containing fuck and cunt and associated words by the time they were 4. But you lot being from the land of prohibition may have some weird views on the world. Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash 24/04/2004
F^ck me dead mate! I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopes
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Answer: Yes Reason: "Jack Schitt"... ? Come on. A four year old probably know worse words than that. If not, don't tell the joke (read it out loud), just laugh a bit. If the child, i.e. "kid sister", can read and does so over your shoulder - I bet that they know words way worse. My private opinion ? Probably soapbox discussion material - but when one can safely say "oh shoot", or "oh frek" instead of the "S-word and F-word" while everybody (including four-year olds) know what the real word is, the only one being fooled is one self. But thats just my opinion. Writing "Shoot" or "Sch***" doesn't really fool anyone either, does it ? So should there be a expanded rule-set for Lounge postings ? - No programming questions - No adds - Political and religious stuff are probably better off in the soapbox - Do not use the F- and S-word (but it's ok to write "F**ked up" and "S**t") [edit] - Do not use the C-word either :) [/edit] Do you know why it's important to make fast decisions? Because you give yourself more time to correct your mistakes, when you find out that you made the wrong one. Chris Meech on deciding whether to go to his daughters graduation or a Neil Young concert -- modified at 12:49 Sunday 30th April, 2006
Jan R Hansen wrote:
Do not use the C-word either
Just what is wrong with C Language. Ohh! I forgot no programming questions.:doh: I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopes
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OK - I'll bite.. :-D I almost wrote it - but didn't - and now I see that I should have done it. I know I'm a guest on CP, and I'm glad to be "invited" - however, moving a thread for being might cause new questions instead of leading to better behaviour. I place the dishes on the wrong table, the moves them and says - dishes goes here... instead of just moving them. Strange analogy :) So, as I would like to "understand", I need to get a clue. Well, then give me a clue while moving the post. Please. Yes, I could deduct that I somehow violated the kid sister rule - but would it be OK to post a joke whith the word "shi*t" in it ? Or is it just wrong because the entire joke revolves around the word ? I honestly don't think that explaining why the thread was moved would be a waste of breath. It could simply be "do not use the s-word in the lounge, please". Thanks - now I know. On the other hand - you might want to take a look at this entire thing as an evidence of a cultural "gap". I dont find it "bad", I find it funny in a very innocent way. But obviously americans don't. So be it. Lets leave it. I'll think twice before ever posting a joke in the lounge. The words or something else might hurt someones feelings and we can't have that, can we. That took me more than a minute - I still think moved and deleted threads deserve an explanation, and some people seem to agree on that. If I invite people into my house to talk about things and then throw then out for saying something I don't want to hear - I might as well just tell them what they did wrong on the way out, or they will never learn. Remember, we don't all feel the same about everything. Anyway - I could start a long rant about the double standards I, as a european, see in the US. Including beeping out "dangerous" words on public TV while having some of the most liberal weapon regulations in the west. But I wont. That would belong in the soapbox. Do you know why it's important to make fast decisions? Because you give yourself more time to correct your mistakes, when you find out that you made the wrong one. Chris Meech on deciding whether to go to his daughters graduation or a Neil Young concert
hmm, it's funny you think this is only a US Culture thing. Isn't the website based in Australia or Canada? Look I'm sure if I started saying something about Hitler or Nazis or concentration camps something like that in your company, then I'm sure it would make you, at the least, feel uneasy. So what if Americans or whoever find some word unpleasant. Show some respect for other's feelings and sensitivities. ---sig---
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hmm, it's funny you think this is only a US Culture thing. Isn't the website based in Australia or Canada? Look I'm sure if I started saying something about Hitler or Nazis or concentration camps something like that in your company, then I'm sure it would make you, at the least, feel uneasy. So what if Americans or whoever find some word unpleasant. Show some respect for other's feelings and sensitivities. ---sig---
Silence is the voice of complicity Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. -- Vincent Reynolds Might I suggest that the universe was always the size of the cosmos. It is just that at one point the cosmos was the size of a marble. -- Colin Angus Mackay PS. If you don't understand my sarcasm -- go to hell!actually - that's what surprices me the most. Chris, David and all the others are Canada-based but obviously have some australian blood. So I am quite surpriced that a thread is moved due to the "S-word". I would like to believe that Canada and Australia are way more ... hmmm... "un-offended ???" by that. Anyway - you can come to europe and talk freely about Hitler, Nazis and concentration camps, (although some of the Nazis will deny the existance of the latter) without having someone boo'ing you. Or throwing you of their house for that matter. I really try not to offend people and/or hurt their feelings, and so I was very surpriced when the thread was moved. Ah well... What still bugs me is that CP apparently has a politic about NOT giving an "official" comment on this. Why hasn't the moderator - whoever it was - posted a thread saying "I did it - I got offended by the use of the S-word, keep that in the soapbox" ? Do you know why it's important to make fast decisions? Because you give yourself more time to correct your mistakes, when you find out that you made the wrong one. Chris Meech on deciding whether to go to his daughters graduation or a Neil Young concert
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Michael Martin wrote:
But you lot being from the land of prohibition may have some weird views on the world.
Nope, just the rest of the world considers it being trashy and poor use of the English language to always have to restart to the same words during conversation. Jeremy Falcon
Jeremy Falcon wrote:
restart
Did you mean resort?
Jeremy Falcon wrote:
Nope, just the rest of the world considers it being trashy and poor use of the English language...
And that from an American, tslk sbout irony. Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash 24/04/2004
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F^ck me dead mate! I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopes
JimmyRopes wrote:
F^ck me dead mate!
That was worth a 5. Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash 24/04/2004
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Jeremy Falcon wrote:
restart
Did you mean resort?
Jeremy Falcon wrote:
Nope, just the rest of the world considers it being trashy and poor use of the English language...
And that from an American, tslk sbout irony. Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash 24/04/2004
Michael Martin wrote:
Did you mean resort?
Yup. Sometimes I wonder about my typing. :laugh:
Michael Martin wrote:
And that from an American, tslk sbout irony.
I don't get it. :-O It it becase we're supposed to be "free" or something? Really though, one on hand they are just words, but on the other they are generally preceived as trashy. I wouldn't want that image for my kids is what I'm saying. Jeremy Falcon
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Jeremy Falcon wrote:
restart
Did you mean resort?
Jeremy Falcon wrote:
Nope, just the rest of the world considers it being trashy and poor use of the English language...
And that from an American, tslk sbout irony. Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash 24/04/2004
Michael Martin wrote:
And that from an American, tslk sbout irony.
Nevermind I just got it. I'm running on half full today. :laugh: Yeah, we butchered the English language a bit, but I was moreso focusing on the usage of a variety of words rater than every other word be f this and f that. Jeremy Falcon
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Michael Martin wrote:
Did you mean resort?
Yup. Sometimes I wonder about my typing. :laugh:
Michael Martin wrote:
And that from an American, tslk sbout irony.
I don't get it. :-O It it becase we're supposed to be "free" or something? Really though, one on hand they are just words, but on the other they are generally preceived as trashy. I wouldn't want that image for my kids is what I'm saying. Jeremy Falcon
Jeremy Falcon wrote:
Yup. Sometimes I wonder about my typing. :laugh:
Christ, have a look at mine when I'm talking about irony. Absolutely tragic. Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash 24/04/2004