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I saw one game in Sweden - really enjoyable. But it made me glad I played a nice soft sport (rugby) when I was at school and university. In one way, those guys are tough - I don't care how much padding you are wearing, it still has to hurt when you are slammed into the side barrier. But they are also real non-athletes - on the ice for maybe a minute then someone replaces you. What about playing a whole game?
normanS wrote:
on the ice for maybe a minute then someone replaces you
Let's see, try running your absolute hardest fastest sprint while fighting at the same time with one or more other people, dodging and weaving, trying to get past them or stop them from getting past you, occasionally being slammed full force into the boards and having to leap up and start sprinting right over again. I don't think that can be sustained by anyone for more than a couple of minutes at the most. The reason they take short shifts is strategic and the shift length depends on the situation in the game, if a team is trying to protect a lead they will take increasingly shorter shifts in an effort to be able to fend off the attacking team more readily. It's a game of intense effort in shifts. Even goalies have been known to lose 10 pounds or more in one game in dehydration alone. It's possible that players could play for longer but that negates the whole basis of the game which is near unbelievable effort at all times. A game of hockey, particularly in North America during the playoffs is almost too fast to keep up with. 10 things are often happening all at the same time and instant replays are often required to determine whether a goal is legitimate or not. It requires four officials on ice skating as fast as they can just to keep on top of the rules. There is really no other game like it that I've ever seen. If players were out for a whole period the game would slow down to the point that it would become something like soccer or baseball.
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Yeah, I know!! :mad: 3rd straight 1st round elimination - :( We played perfect hockey for 40 minutes, then let Edmonton take it away in less than 20. Pisses me off that the officials let one of the Oilers kick a goal in with his foot (that's not allowed forthose of you who don't know Hockey rules). Not to mention that the puck was also hit with a high stick just before that. Dave Kreskowiak Microsoft MVP - Visual Basic
Heh heh, I hear Legacie is being blamed for the losses, but clearly the defense wasn't up to the task. Excellent game though, the only reason it was even close for the first 40 is the Oilers were too hyped up trying to win to play properly and get the job done. It's not surprising though, being the best of your conference when it's the bottom of the NHL doesn't really prepare you for the intensity of playoff hockey. Don't get me wrong, Detroit has some of the best players in the NHL without a doubt. The Oilers had to fight tooth and nail just to get into the playoffs, it went down to the final two games before they were in and that's in the toughest division and conference in the NHL. The Oilers were playing playoff hockey months before the playoffs started, Detroit was cruising along in or near first place all season. They didn't have their game faces on and it showed. That goal wasn't kicked in at all, in the replay you can clearly see it hit him in the chest and fell down near his leg, but he was being pushed into the net already. And it wasn't a high stick, it would have been a high stick if he had directed it into the goal, but the rules state that if he hit's it below his shoulder height and it passes to his own player it's acceptable. But let's face it, even if it was a bad call, and it wasn't, when your down three games there's only about a 10% chance of coming back to win and bad calls were going both ways all series although less than I expected. I'm seriously wondering though if the wings are going to be dismantled over the summer. A lot of retirements I bet or at the very least players moving to the city they want to end their career in, no doubt a goalie massacre as is traditional for Detroit and maybe a new head coach as well. Maybe we'll get Babcock in Vancouver.
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Non- athletes, are you kidding??? In hockey you NEVER stop, you go ALL OUT for 60 seconds or so. Try to sustain your absolutely maximum effort for much longer. If you ever watch a game, notice how winded they are, even after few minutes of rest. If they played the entire game, the game would be about as slow as baseball or cricket or some other PSEUDO-sports. P.S. "Side barrier" - it is called "boards" ;-)
Preaching in the desert but a 5 True that a hockey player would probably have a tough time completing a competitive soccer/football match, but the reverse is also true. The effort is just different. gotta go, 2nd period of the Habs game is under way!
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Heh heh, I hear Legacie is being blamed for the losses, but clearly the defense wasn't up to the task. Excellent game though, the only reason it was even close for the first 40 is the Oilers were too hyped up trying to win to play properly and get the job done. It's not surprising though, being the best of your conference when it's the bottom of the NHL doesn't really prepare you for the intensity of playoff hockey. Don't get me wrong, Detroit has some of the best players in the NHL without a doubt. The Oilers had to fight tooth and nail just to get into the playoffs, it went down to the final two games before they were in and that's in the toughest division and conference in the NHL. The Oilers were playing playoff hockey months before the playoffs started, Detroit was cruising along in or near first place all season. They didn't have their game faces on and it showed. That goal wasn't kicked in at all, in the replay you can clearly see it hit him in the chest and fell down near his leg, but he was being pushed into the net already. And it wasn't a high stick, it would have been a high stick if he had directed it into the goal, but the rules state that if he hit's it below his shoulder height and it passes to his own player it's acceptable. But let's face it, even if it was a bad call, and it wasn't, when your down three games there's only about a 10% chance of coming back to win and bad calls were going both ways all series although less than I expected. I'm seriously wondering though if the wings are going to be dismantled over the summer. A lot of retirements I bet or at the very least players moving to the city they want to end their career in, no doubt a goalie massacre as is traditional for Detroit and maybe a new head coach as well. Maybe we'll get Babcock in Vancouver.
John Cardinal wrote:
only about a 10% chance of coming back
Habs will do it starting tonight :->
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Yup, I was dancing around the living room last night watching that game. It's not surprising really, they are playing all year in the least competitive division in the NHL and Edmonton was fighting tooth and nail in the most competitive division just to get into the playoffs at all. One team in playoff game shape, the other coasting along all year. It's not too surprising really.
Glad they won, but that tying goal wasn't good.
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Detroit was eliminated from the finals! :omg: :omg: :wtf:
It is one of the surprises, but their regular season standings was boosted by being in the same division as 2 of the worst 3 and 3 of the worst 6 teams in the whole league... Dallas is more of a shocker, even though Detroit hurt my pool.
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Non- athletes, are you kidding??? In hockey you NEVER stop, you go ALL OUT for 60 seconds or so. Try to sustain your absolutely maximum effort for much longer. If you ever watch a game, notice how winded they are, even after few minutes of rest. If they played the entire game, the game would be about as slow as baseball or cricket or some other PSEUDO-sports. P.S. "Side barrier" - it is called "boards" ;-)
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John Cardinal wrote:
only about a 10% chance of coming back
Habs will do it starting tonight :->
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normanS wrote:
on the ice for maybe a minute then someone replaces you
Let's see, try running your absolute hardest fastest sprint while fighting at the same time with one or more other people, dodging and weaving, trying to get past them or stop them from getting past you, occasionally being slammed full force into the boards and having to leap up and start sprinting right over again. I don't think that can be sustained by anyone for more than a couple of minutes at the most. The reason they take short shifts is strategic and the shift length depends on the situation in the game, if a team is trying to protect a lead they will take increasingly shorter shifts in an effort to be able to fend off the attacking team more readily. It's a game of intense effort in shifts. Even goalies have been known to lose 10 pounds or more in one game in dehydration alone. It's possible that players could play for longer but that negates the whole basis of the game which is near unbelievable effort at all times. A game of hockey, particularly in North America during the playoffs is almost too fast to keep up with. 10 things are often happening all at the same time and instant replays are often required to determine whether a goal is legitimate or not. It requires four officials on ice skating as fast as they can just to keep on top of the rules. There is really no other game like it that I've ever seen. If players were out for a whole period the game would slow down to the point that it would become something like soccer or baseball.
John Cardinal wrote:
It requires four officials on ice skating as fast as they can just to keep on top of the rules.
and yet they don`t! :->
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I hear ya! but game 4 also. At least they made Carolina win it, they were more than fair competition. I hate to blame the refs, but that game 3... even not thinking of loosing Koivu cause those things do happen. If Williams had a major on this thight game, maybe it would have been 3-0. A few feet from the net, where were the 4 zebras looking at ??? If he had been suspended for the 4th instead of being the first star, obviously hitting Markov in the face without a penalty in the process... Brind'amour putting the puck in the net by rushing the goalie twice in the exact same way. The first it's rightfully refused, but he yells to the face of the zebra without a penalty. The second time it's good. Ok, I vented! :-D