cant we survive without english
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My dear planetmates, its high time for all the nations to sit together to invent a language which is acceptable by everyone as global language Really,life is getting miserable without english.In india its becoming like u need better english than technical skills if u want to suceed as a s/w engineer.I know many people who excel in the field more with their command on english.I dont know about other parts of the world... Today I told my boss regarding my colleague that "I will inform this to him". and he burst out to laughing...coz he was a she(umm..I mean my colleague was a lady) Now a days regularly I am dreaming about coding in my mother tounge.. :((:((
It doesn't matter what category you try to put things, you rule some out, give preference to others. Whether it is spoken language, or computer language. The VB folks scream because they didn't want to learn C to keep programming. Same applies to spoken or written language. If you know more than one you have broader capabilities of applications work. Applications are, for the most part, written for others as such they reflect the people they were written for as much as the person who writes them. Writing software for French speaking people, if all you know is Texas English, you are more likely to offend them -- which may or may not be your intent, but the product will flop. I know one spoken/written language and even that, as I often say, my English teachers in High School and College would wish to debate. I survive off of the multi-language on the programming side, able to switch from C/C++ to Pascal, to Fortran and others at ease. Skills add to that basic ability with GUI or 3D or algorithm management, database work, etc. Same goes with lingual skills, the ability to write a good whitepaper on discoveries is important in high-tech fields (you must not only do it, but you have to prove you did it!). Who you prove it to again goes back to intent, who you are writing it for. So you are thinking backwards, until all the world speaks the same language, without dialect differences and local colloquialisms you will always have to relearn. I promise if you put a native Texan in the same room as a Britain or Australian, they will eventually offend each other while still speaking "English." In fact if you start the discussion about who is really speaking "English" you will get the offending done and overwith in the first exchange. _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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It doesn't matter what category you try to put things, you rule some out, give preference to others. Whether it is spoken language, or computer language. The VB folks scream because they didn't want to learn C to keep programming. Same applies to spoken or written language. If you know more than one you have broader capabilities of applications work. Applications are, for the most part, written for others as such they reflect the people they were written for as much as the person who writes them. Writing software for French speaking people, if all you know is Texas English, you are more likely to offend them -- which may or may not be your intent, but the product will flop. I know one spoken/written language and even that, as I often say, my English teachers in High School and College would wish to debate. I survive off of the multi-language on the programming side, able to switch from C/C++ to Pascal, to Fortran and others at ease. Skills add to that basic ability with GUI or 3D or algorithm management, database work, etc. Same goes with lingual skills, the ability to write a good whitepaper on discoveries is important in high-tech fields (you must not only do it, but you have to prove you did it!). Who you prove it to again goes back to intent, who you are writing it for. So you are thinking backwards, until all the world speaks the same language, without dialect differences and local colloquialisms you will always have to relearn. I promise if you put a native Texan in the same room as a Britain or Australian, they will eventually offend each other while still speaking "English." In fact if you start the discussion about who is really speaking "English" you will get the offending done and overwith in the first exchange. _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
Great Jeffry, that was a really cool post which contains some worthy comments.I just quoted the present day Indian condition.And ,Though i may not get a call center job, I can do communicate in the s/w field with my english. The irony is ,here in india even if you have got hundreds of awards in competitions like elocution and extempore in your mother toungue,You may be rejected as a candidate for an IT job by saying that your communication skills are poor.We can understand if they term it as english skills. And moreover a single language for all is merely a dream.See,languages causes many problems.It forms groups.In india around 19 languages are there which is being used for speaking.Based on these languages the country has been divided into many states where each states holds a unique culture associated with their langauge. If you have been mixed up with a group of people where some will speak your language and others a different one.Soon a group will be formed with respect to the language.If we are considering ourselves as a global citizen,no problem would occur. Imagine if all are speaking the same language ?(without any hard grammer rulles,I should say) -- modified at 14:04 Thursday 4th May, 2006
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My dear planetmates, its high time for all the nations to sit together to invent a language which is acceptable by everyone as global language Really,life is getting miserable without english.In india its becoming like u need better english than technical skills if u want to suceed as a s/w engineer.I know many people who excel in the field more with their command on english.I dont know about other parts of the world... Today I told my boss regarding my colleague that "I will inform this to him". and he burst out to laughing...coz he was a she(umm..I mean my colleague was a lady) Now a days regularly I am dreaming about coding in my mother tounge.. :((:((
The problem isn't english, the problem is your country is reliant on technology that was developed by english speaking people. So I guess your real solution is design a computer system using software based on your own language rather than building on one that is foreign to you. Then you'd have no problems. Likely, if the nations did get together to "invent a language" it would be based on the most commonly spoken language, which I believe is english. So you probably would lose either way. Best thing that could be done is everyone just accept a certain language and start teaching that language early in schools.
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The problem isn't english, the problem is your country is reliant on technology that was developed by english speaking people. So I guess your real solution is design a computer system using software based on your own language rather than building on one that is foreign to you. Then you'd have no problems. Likely, if the nations did get together to "invent a language" it would be based on the most commonly spoken language, which I believe is english. So you probably would lose either way. Best thing that could be done is everyone just accept a certain language and start teaching that language early in schools.
glitch177k wrote:
based on the most commonly spoken language
meaning across seperate borders. Chinese I believe dominates language on a per person basis, but outside of china I think it's far more rare. Where english is across many many borders.
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glitch177k wrote:
based on the most commonly spoken language
meaning across seperate borders. Chinese I believe dominates language on a per person basis, but outside of china I think it's far more rare. Where english is across many many borders.
glitch177k wrote:
meaning across seperate borders.
If you start making qualifications... we should just all speak Latin. Latin was "chosen" for scientific naming because it was a "dead language" the meanings of words were not changing with the people. However, even though this led to adoption in legal as well as scientific exchanges, it is not a truly "dead language" because each person is interpreting the reference words into their own international language, this results in the same issues as if you were exchanging in English. However, if you are simply making qualifications based on usage across multiple borders by ignoring population values, then Latin is your language of choice crossing the most borders and being the origin of many current use languages makes it an ideal international language. _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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Why has it not occurred to anyone in the U.S. that outsourcing all our technology (hardware and/or software) to other countries (e.g., India, China) is a National Security Problem; a very serious one at that (Hey! Let's give away the keys to the kingdom. Because that's smart!) Marc, I seriously hope you are mistaken; if "everything" is outsourced to China, then your comment:
Marc Clifton wrote:
China will wipe us both out
could take on all new meaning ... :~
:..::. Douglas H. Troy ::..
Bad Astronomy |Development Blogging|Viksoe.dk's SiteThis is something, now we are crying about outsourcing. A couple of weeks past, I was incensed because my teacher told me his class was a weeding out class. I paid good hard earned cash to take a class and silly me I was expecting to be taught. He wasn’t there to teach but to weed out students that were looking in to becoming programmers. The number of responses that didn’t get it dismayed me. You who thought that it was acceptable to weed out instead of teaching will pay piper in the future, when you have to get a passport so you can go to work. Just to inform some of you, I got the only A. :laugh::laugh::laugh: X|
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My dear planetmates, its high time for all the nations to sit together to invent a language which is acceptable by everyone as global language Really,life is getting miserable without english.In india its becoming like u need better english than technical skills if u want to suceed as a s/w engineer.I know many people who excel in the field more with their command on english.I dont know about other parts of the world... Today I told my boss regarding my colleague that "I will inform this to him". and he burst out to laughing...coz he was a she(umm..I mean my colleague was a lady) Now a days regularly I am dreaming about coding in my mother tounge.. :((:((
Try learn Russian =) English language have very accurate structure and so easy to understand. Coding in my mother tongue seems like nightmare ;P
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My dear planetmates, its high time for all the nations to sit together to invent a language which is acceptable by everyone as global language Really,life is getting miserable without english.In india its becoming like u need better english than technical skills if u want to suceed as a s/w engineer.I know many people who excel in the field more with their command on english.I dont know about other parts of the world... Today I told my boss regarding my colleague that "I will inform this to him". and he burst out to laughing...coz he was a she(umm..I mean my colleague was a lady) Now a days regularly I am dreaming about coding in my mother tounge.. :((:((
Are you refering to American-English or English-English?
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They may not be in huge number. But it is happening.